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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Loaded AR mags (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 6/3/2013 5:45:15 PM EDT
| Ive seen this topic touched on but I'm wonder, who here keeps a mag or two loaded and ready to go....long term? I've heard it's OK to leave Mags fully loaded for long periods without hurting the spring but how many actually do it? Its temping to keep a 30 round mag loaded with 20 rounds on a shelf in the gun safe "just incase". How many practice this? Do you fully load or half load, rotate several mags for keeping loaded? Polymer or steel/ aluminum mag for this purpose? |
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Ive seen this topic touched on but I'm wonder, who here keeps a mag or two loaded and ready to go....long term? I've heard it's OK to leave Mags fully loaded for long periods without hurting the spring but how many actually do it? Its temping to keep a 30 round mag loaded with 20 rounds on a shelf in the gun safe "just incase". How many practice this? Do you fully load or half load, rotate several mags for keeping loaded? Polymer or steel/ aluminum mag for this purpose? Seriously? Come on man..... |
Here you go. Google is a powerful tool. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=site%3A+ar15.com+loaded+magazines |
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I have spare p-mags fully loaded and bouncing around for a couple of years on a Polaris that I drive all day around the ranch and work as well now as the day I bought them.
I also have some FAL magazines and RRA .308 polymer magazines that have been doing the same and no issues with function or any damage to them. I think they will hold up fine in a gun safe or on a shelf. |
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I keep at least 10-15 loaded mags at any given time.
i load 29 rounds in each mag. That's how we did it in the IDF. It help extending the spring life and it makes it easy to verify tpyour mags are full using your right hand to push down and make sure you only have a slack for one last round. If you think about holding the mag in your left hand and pushing your right hand thumb on the top round (which will be on the right side of the mag top) it kinda make sense. |
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Quoted: Why replace the mags after ten years....just get some spare spring sets and just replace the springs. No need to replace bodies, followers, and baseplates on unused old loaded mags....I figure that a mag, once loaded, is no longer new. Maybe in ten years I might want some new ones because the loaded ones from ten years ago might not be dependable. |
| I keep a loaded 20 in a rifle in the safe, and a loaded 30 on top of the safe, both for defense/shtf purposes. Aside from that, I have 6-10 range mags that I basically keep perpetually loaded, as in, I load them and keep them in the range bag, and after shooting at the range, I will reload the range mags within a couple days to go back into the range bag to be ready for when I feel like shooting. |
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Question 1: does keeping mags loaded shorten spring life?
Yes, it does, but not enough to practically matter. A quality mag loaded and stuck on a shelf will likely outlast you and still have a good spring. It would last longer unloaded. Fact. However.... How many lifetimes do you need to have one ready? Question 2: do you keep some mags loaded ready to go. Yes, absolutely. An unloaded gun is the same as no gun at all. Just be smart about it, keep stuff away from kids and people that shouldn't have access.... |
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I load them all the way up Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Sunday. Unload them Tues, Thurs, Sat. Leap years I swap days, just to keep it interesting. On my birthday I lay in all my mags and ammo naked. +1 But I unload on Christmas and lay in the pile of ammunition naked. You can usually still see the cheetos dust. |
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All mags loaded, all the way, all the time. Same here. The only AR magazines I don't keep loaded are a box of new ones. I can't say about the AR magazines but I have 1911 and M14 magazines that have been loaded (more than not) for 30 years or more. They get unloaded at the range some times and then filled back up for the trip home. |
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Question 1: does keeping mags loaded shorten spring life? Yes, it does, but not enough to practically matter. A quality mag loaded and stuck on a shelf will likely outlast you and still have a good spring. It would last longer unloaded. Fact. However.... How many lifetimes do you need to have one ready? The correct answer is NO, it doesn't shorten spring life at all. The subject has been beaten to death and it's a FACT that leaving your mags loaded does NOT shorten the springs life, cycling, loading/unloading does. |
| Next question...Magpul used to include "dust covers" for their mags, claiming it kep out sand and dust (maybe) but would take tress off the feed lips. Now they dont include them with the mags I've bought. Is this a bunch of crap? I have one, and cant see how it could protect the magazine at all. And what about steel and aluminum mags? And worry of deforming feed lips? |
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Question 1: does keeping mags loaded shorten spring life? Yes, it does, but not enough to practically matter. A quality mag loaded and stuck on a shelf will likely outlast you and still have a good spring. It would last longer unloaded. Fact. However.... How many lifetimes do you need to have one ready? The correct answer is NO, it doesn't shorten spring life at all. The subject has been beaten to death and it's a FACT that leaving your mags loaded does NOT shorten the springs life, cycling, loading/unloading does. ^^^^ THIS ^^^^ is the correct answer. |
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Next question...Magpul used to include "dust covers" for their mags, claiming it kep out sand and dust (maybe) but would take tress off the feed lips. Now they dont include them with the mags I've bought. Is this a bunch of crap? I have one, and cant see how it could protect the magazine at all. And what about steel and aluminum mags? And worry of deforming feed lips? My .2 - some will disagree. When fully loaded, polymer mags will flex/bow a bit over time, which could potentially impact the function and reliability of the magazine. For me, the Pmag dust cover helps mitigate this problem. Metal magazines are less susceptible to this sort of deformation IMO. Again - consider this just my opinion. There's less than universal agreement on this topic within the community. |
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Next question...Magpul used to include "dust covers" for their mags, claiming it kep out sand and dust (maybe) but would take tress off the feed lips. Now they dont include them with the mags I've bought. Is this a bunch of crap? I have one, and cant see how it could protect the magazine at all. And what about steel and aluminum mags? And worry of deforming feed lips? My .2 - some will disagree. When fully loaded, polymer mags will flex/bow a bit over time, which could potentially impact the function and reliability of the magazine. For me, the Pmag dust cover helps mitigate this problem. Metal magazines are less susceptible to this sort of deformation IMO. Again - consider this just my opinion. There's less than universal agreement on this topic within the community. So, in your opinion, why did Magpul discontinue sending covers with the mags? Non issue or increased sales? |
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How do Troy BattleMags hold up being loaded for long periods of time? I've heard a not so good story a couple weeks back. Load them up and don't worry about them Alright, I got kinda scared a couple weeks back I remember someone posting about how the spine has slightly split on theirs around the top and the magazine would not seat properly. Thanks DP 
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Next question...Magpul used to include "dust covers" for their mags, claiming it kep out sand and dust (maybe) but would take tress off the feed lips. Now they dont include them with the mags I've bought. Is this a bunch of crap? I have one, and cant see how it could protect the magazine at all. And what about steel and aluminum mags? And worry of deforming feed lips? My .2 - some will disagree. When fully loaded, polymer mags will flex/bow a bit over time, which could potentially impact the function and reliability of the magazine. For me, the Pmag dust cover helps mitigate this problem. Metal magazines are less susceptible to this sort of deformation IMO. Again - consider this just my opinion. There's less than universal agreement on this topic within the community. So, in your opinion, why did Magpul discontinue sending covers with the mags? Non issue or increased sales? They only stopped shipping the dust covers with the generation 2 magazines. Also known as MOE. Generation 3 still have the dust covers. |
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Next question...Magpul used to include "dust covers" for their mags, claiming it kep out sand and dust (maybe) but would take tress off the feed lips. Now they dont include them with the mags I've bought. Is this a bunch of crap? I have one, and cant see how it could protect the magazine at all. And what about steel and aluminum mags? And worry of deforming feed lips? My .2 - some will disagree. When fully loaded, polymer mags will flex/bow a bit over time, which could potentially impact the function and reliability of the magazine. For me, the Pmag dust cover helps mitigate this problem. Metal magazines are less susceptible to this sort of deformation IMO. Again - consider this just my opinion. There's less than universal agreement on this topic within the community. So, in your opinion, why did Magpul discontinue sending covers with the mags? Non issue or increased sales? IMHO, this was done to help keep Gen 2 magazines as a price competitive option in the marketplace as compared to their own Gen 3 magazines. From a materials and labor perspective, the cost to Magpul to produce a Gen 2 vs. a Gen 3 is, I would speculate, nearly identical. But for various reasons, Mappul needs to keep both magazines iin the marketplace. Since they (presumably) cost about the same to produce, it's hard to price a Gen 2 significantly lower than a Gen 3. So they package them differently (dust cover with a Gen 3 vs. no dust cover with a Gen 2). Again - just pure opinion and speculation on my part which could be way off base. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How do Troy BattleMags hold up being loaded for long periods of time? I've heard a not so good story a couple weeks back. Load them up and don't worry about them Alright, I got kinda scared a couple weeks back I remember someone posting about how the spine has slightly split on theirs around the top and the magazine would not seat properly. Thanks DP I have 12 Gen 3's that have been loaded to capacity since late last year when they first came out I used them two weeks ago in a class and they all ran 100%. There were no splits and they all seated properly Load them and sleep well at night |
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How do Troy BattleMags hold up being loaded for long periods of time? I've heard a not so good story a couple weeks back. Load them up and don't worry about them Alright, I got kinda scared a couple weeks back I remember someone posting about how the spine has slightly split on theirs around the top and the magazine would not seat properly. Thanks DP I have 12 Gen 3's that have been loaded to capacity since late last year when they first came out I used them two weeks ago in a class and they all ran 100%. There were no splits and they all seated properly Load them and sleep well at night I have no worries about the pmags I'm talking about Troy BattleMags |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How do Troy BattleMags hold up being loaded for long periods of time? I've heard a not so good story a couple weeks back. Load them up and don't worry about them Alright, I got kinda scared a couple weeks back I remember someone posting about how the spine has slightly split on theirs around the top and the magazine would not seat properly. Thanks DP I have 12 Gen 3's that have been loaded to capacity since late last year when they first came out I used them two weeks ago in a class and they all ran 100%. There were no splits and they all seated properly Load them and sleep well at night I have no worries about the pmags I'm talking about Troy BattleMags My mistake, I ment to type Troy
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How do Troy BattleMags hold up being loaded for long periods of time? I've heard a not so good story a couple weeks back. Load them up and don't worry about them Alright, I got kinda scared a couple weeks back I remember someone posting about how the spine has slightly split on theirs around the top and the magazine would not seat properly. Thanks DP I have 12 Gen 3's that have been loaded to capacity since late last year when they first came out I used them two weeks ago in a class and they all ran 100%. There were no splits and they all seated properly Load them and sleep well at night I have no worries about the pmags I'm talking about Troy BattleMags My mistake, I ment to type Troy Ah, ok that's good to hear. Thanks Dp 
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I kept one loaded for a few months and the feed lips did spread ever so slightly. That being said, the mag worked 100% at my last range outing. I wouldn't hesitate to buy more if I needed them. I like them just fine. I kinda like the hi-vis follower too. If the room is dark and I open the closet door that's all I see. That, and the tritium.
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I kept one loaded for a few months and the feed lips did spread ever so slightly. That being said, the mag worked 100% at my last range outing. I wouldn't hesitate to buy more if I needed them. I like them just fine. I kinda like the hi-vis follower too. If the room is dark and I open the closet door that's all I see. That, and the tritium. Which magazines were these? |
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Here you go. Google is a powerful tool.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=site%3A+ar15.com+loaded+magazines Haha nice. Was this already made or did you just create it? Oh and all mags loaded. |
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Here you go. Google is a powerful tool.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=site%3A+ar15.com+loaded+magazines Haha nice. Was this already made or did you just create it? Oh and all mags loaded. yeah, just about as amusing as a rick roll. 
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I kept one loaded for a few months and the feed lips did spread ever so slightly. That being said, the mag worked 100% at my last range outing. I wouldn't hesitate to buy more if I needed them. I like them just fine. I kinda like the hi-vis follower too. If the room is dark and I open the closet door that's all I see. That, and the tritium. Which magazines were these? Sorry for the delay - it was a troy battlemag. The spread was hardly noticeable, but it did happen none the less. |
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I kept one loaded for a few months and the feed lips did spread ever so slightly. That being said, the mag worked 100% at my last range outing. I wouldn't hesitate to buy more if I needed them. I like them just fine. I kinda like the hi-vis follower too. If the room is dark and I open the closet door that's all I see. That, and the tritium. Which magazines were these? Sorry for the delay - it was a troy battlemag. The spread was hardly noticeable, but it did happen none the less. Is OK, dang... That's unfortunate t hear still yet..... |
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I load them all the way up Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Sunday. Unload them Tues, Thurs, Sat. Leap years I swap days, just to keep it interesting. On my birthday I lay in all my mags and ammo naked. Damn, really? ME TOO!!! 
I coat my whole body in cosmoline first though. It makes the ammo stick to my skin better...and I like the way it squishes between my toes. 
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