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4/14/2009 8:22:26 AM EDT
What is the best paint/coating to put on a new magazine? I bought some from Boom to Zoom at the show in Madison. I don't want the paint/coating to wear off the first time I us them. Thanks for any help.



Scwantzy
4/12/2009 11:20:42 AM EDT
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What is the best paint/coating to put on a new magazine? I bought some from Boom to Zoom at the show in Madison. I don't want the paint/coating to wear off the first time I us them. Thanks for any help.



Scwantzy


Properly applied and cured Duracoat.

I can help you if you wish.
4/12/2009 11:23:09 AM EDT
[#2]

  He ain't bad ^
4/12/2009 11:26:26 AM EDT
[#3]
What are the logistics involved? Do you want me to send them to you? Can I do it myself? I want the coating to last so I want it done right the first time. So maybe I shouldn't do it. HA HA. What is the cost when I send them to you?

Scwantzy
4/12/2009 1:47:16 PM EDT
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What are the logistics involved? Do you want me to send them to you? Can I do it myself? I want the coating to last so I want it done right the first time. So maybe I shouldn't do it. HA HA. What is the cost when I send them to you?

Scwantzy


You can do them yourself if you like.

General process is:
solvent strip the mags
Blast with aluminum oxide
Duracoat

Im me if you would like e to do them.
4/12/2009 1:59:13 PM EDT
[#5]
what kind of mags are we speaking of? I wasn't aware of this process for mags
4/12/2009 2:08:43 PM EDT
[#6]
You can do it with any kind of mag. Works awesome on GI mags!
4/12/2009 5:16:16 PM EDT
[#7]
I don't understang why someone would want to refinish NEW mags?  Nothing that can be sprayed on is going to be any better than the coating that is already on them. Why don't you beat the hell out of them for a few years and then worry about refinishing?
4/12/2009 5:59:05 PM EDT
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I don't understang why someone would want to refinish NEW mags?  Nothing that can be sprayed on is going to be any better than the coating that is already on them. Why don't you beat the hell out of them for a few years and then worry about refinishing?


Maybe he wants a superior magazine coating?
4/12/2009 6:08:14 PM EDT
[#9]
I just wanted to make sure I was protecting the mags from wear. I alsowant it too look purty!!!
4/13/2009 12:19:48 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
What is the best paint/coating to put on a new magazine? I bought some from Boom to Zoom at the show in Madison. I don't want the paint/coating to wear off the first time I us them. Thanks for any help.



Scwantzy


FULKIN KRYLON DUDE!
4/13/2009 4:47:20 AM EDT
[#11]
I'd spend the time/money/effort on something more valuable.  They're magazines.  They're going to wear out, get scratched, dropped, etc.

Get one finished to match the fancy camo pattern on a rifle, if you want.  Leave the rest alone, IMO.  Spend the money on ammo, or training.

But they're yours, so do as you please.  
4/13/2009 5:16:51 AM EDT
[#12]
guess I just don't get it

seems like a lot of money/time that could be spent elsewhere
4/13/2009 5:17:30 AM EDT
[#13]
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What is the best paint/coating to put on a new magazine? I bought some from Boom to Zoom at the show in Madison. I don't want the paint/coating to wear off the first time I us them. Thanks for any help.



Scwantzy


FULKIN KRYLON DUDE!


The Krylon crew needs to be stopped. lol
4/13/2009 11:53:02 AM EDT
[#14]
Maybe he wants them Pink! There are many reasons to coat mags and DuraCoat is the best way,
4/13/2009 3:57:35 PM EDT
[#15]
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I don't understang why someone would want to refinish NEW mags?  Nothing that can be sprayed on is going to be any better than the coating that is already on them. Why don't you beat the hell out of them for a few years and then worry about refinishing?


Maybe he wants a superior magazine coating?


To each is own I guess.

So, what do you charge to coat a mag? I have 10 or so GI 30's that I sand blasted (THEY WERE BEAT TO SHIT, NOT NEW LOL) and was going to coat but I lost access to the oven I was going to use to cure them.  They are all disassembled and blasted. They just need to be shot and baked.

4/13/2009 4:07:31 PM EDT
[#16]
Parker is about as close to grey GI mag color you will get. I do mine in tactical black that is a real nice dul finnish.
4/13/2009 4:16:05 PM EDT
[#17]




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I don't understang why someone would want to refinish NEW mags? Nothing that can be sprayed on is going to be any better than the coating that is already on them. Why don't you beat the hell out of them for a few years and then worry about refinishing?




Maybe he wants a superior magazine coating?




To each is own I guess.



So, what do you charge to coat a mag? I have 10 or so GI 30's that I sand blasted (THEY WERE BEAT TO SHIT, NOT NEW LOL) and was going to coat but I lost access to the oven I was going to use to cure them. They are all disassembled and blasted. They just need to be shot and baked.







Flame really has a nice setup. Were your mags sandblasted or aluminum oxide blasted? there is a great difference. If sandblasted I would still aluminum oxide blast them. Sand makes for a MUCH rougher finish. Then he would degrease several times then paint, one or more coats. Baking isn't really needed if prepped right.



I know many on here say painting is a waste of time and money. All but five of my mags I bought used. I replace all springs install PMag followers and paint. The painting holds up MUCH better than most would think. And if I ding mine up bad, I repaint. Easy.



Flame does about the best work around. Trust him. He has MAD paint skills!! (as my 14 yo puts it!)
4/13/2009 4:28:12 PM EDT
[#18]
Powder coated one flat black, ( mostly cause I have a powder coating set up in the garage) game out real pretty and so far is real durable
4/13/2009 4:37:21 PM EDT
[#19]
I'm sure you can find plenty of time and materials at work to do it.

With the money you save buy a membership ya cheep fuck.
4/13/2009 5:05:12 PM EDT
[#20]
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I don't understang why someone would want to refinish NEW mags? Nothing that can be sprayed on is going to be any better than the coating that is already on them. Why don't you beat the hell out of them for a few years and then worry about refinishing?


Maybe he wants a superior magazine coating?


To each is own I guess.

So, what do you charge to coat a mag? I have 10 or so GI 30's that I sand blasted (THEY WERE BEAT TO SHIT, NOT NEW LOL) and was going to coat but I lost access to the oven I was going to use to cure them. They are all disassembled and blasted. They just need to be shot and baked.



Flame really has a nice setup. Were your mags sandblasted or aluminum oxide blasted? there is a great difference. If sandblasted I would still aluminum oxide blast them. Sand makes for a MUCH rougher finish. Then he would degrease several times then paint, one or more coats. Baking isn't really needed if prepped right.

I know many on here say painting is a waste of time and money. All but five of my mags I bought used. I replace all springs install PMag followers and paint. The painting holds up MUCH better than most would think. And if I ding mine up bad, I repaint. Easy.

Flame does about the best work around. Trust him. He has MAD paint skills!! (as my 14 yo puts it!)


Actually they were glass beaded.  They aren't smooth but not rough either. I think they are about perfect for the coating to get a good bite on. Flame sent me a quote by IM and its not a bad price. I just have too many other things I need money for right now.  Hell, already owe him $300 for some lowers. I might as well just sign my paycheck over to him!

4/13/2009 5:22:46 PM EDT
[#21]
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I don't understang why someone would want to refinish NEW mags? Nothing that can be sprayed on is going to be any better than the coating that is already on them. Why don't you beat the hell out of them for a few years and then worry about refinishing?  


BINGO....

I'll never understand why folks wast money on that crap...but won't spend a dime to learn how to use any of it...
4/13/2009 6:29:02 PM EDT
[#22]
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I don't understang why someone would want to refinish NEW mags? Nothing that can be sprayed on is going to be any better than the coating that is already on them. Why don't you beat the hell out of them for a few years and then worry about refinishing?  


BINGO....

I'll never understand why folks wast money on that crap...but won't spend a dime to learn how to use any of it...


Free will.
4/13/2009 10:44:23 PM EDT
[#23]
Thats why I have pmags
4/14/2009 5:03:16 AM EDT
[#24]




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Thats why I have pmags




I painted my Pmags too.
4/14/2009 8:19:59 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
I'd spend the time/money/effort on something more valuable.  They're magazines.  They're going to wear out, get scratched, dropped, etc.

Get one finished to match the fancy camo pattern on a rifle, if you want.  Leave the rest alone, IMO.  Spend the money on ammo, or training.

But they're yours, so do as you please.  



BINGO....

I'll never understand why folks wast money on that crap...but won't spend a dime to learn how to use any of it...  


Glen, Harv,
If he duracoats them he'll never have to worry about them rusting in the safe.


Anyway, scwantzy,  Welcome to the hometown forum. Nice first post but it belongs in the technical sections.

C361
Stan

4/14/2009 9:48:11 AM EDT
[#26]
Where do aluminum mags rust?
4/14/2009 10:26:24 AM EDT
[#27]
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I just wanted to make sure I was protecting the mags from wear. I alsowant it too look purty!!!


Welcome to the board!!  

Now take 3 or 4 'purty' mags and put them in the safe - those are now your 'Safe Queen' mags - for photographic purposes.

Take the rest of them and run them at the range to make sure they work -those have now become your SHTF mags - in case you ever need proven mags to save your life.
4/14/2009 12:13:01 PM EDT
[#28]
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Where do aluminum mags rust?



Sorry,
I forgot the sarcasm icon...
(@ the mags nad the posting)


C361
Stan
4/14/2009 12:15:43 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
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Quoted:
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I don't understang why someone would want to refinish NEW mags? Nothing that can be sprayed on is going to be any better than the coating that is already on them. Why don't you beat the hell out of them for a few years and then worry about refinishing?


Maybe he wants a superior magazine coating?


To each is own I guess.

So, what do you charge to coat a mag? I have 10 or so GI 30's that I sand blasted (THEY WERE BEAT TO SHIT, NOT NEW LOL) and was going to coat but I lost access to the oven I was going to use to cure them. They are all disassembled and blasted. They just need to be shot and baked.



Flame really has a nice setup. Were your mags sandblasted or aluminum oxide blasted? there is a great difference. If sandblasted I would still aluminum oxide blast them. Sand makes for a MUCH rougher finish. Then he would degrease several times then paint, one or more coats. Baking isn't really needed if prepped right.

I know many on here say painting is a waste of time and money. All but five of my mags I bought used. I replace all springs install PMag followers and paint. The painting holds up MUCH better than most would think. And if I ding mine up bad, I repaint. Easy.

Flame does about the best work around. Trust him. He has MAD paint skills!! (as my 14 yo puts it!)


Actually they were glass beaded.  They aren't smooth but not rough either. I think they are about perfect for the coating to get a good bite on. Flame sent me a quote by IM and its not a bad price. I just have too many other things I need money for right now.  Hell, already owe him $300 for some lowers. I might as well just sign my paycheck over to him!



OK
4/14/2009 1:46:52 PM EDT
[#30]
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Where do aluminum mags rust?



Sorry,
I forgot the sarcasm icon...
(@ the mags nad the posting)


C361
Stan


Well, I was just going to say...I've seen extensive corrosion on some relatively new magazines after they were destroyed...that is, between the two halves, near the welds. Depending on the type of magazine, it may have never had a factory finish there. So you can do all the refinishing to the outside that you want, but the corrosion will continue to weaken the welds in those areas.
4/14/2009 5:57:16 PM EDT
[#31]
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Where do aluminum mags rust?



Sorry,
I forgot the sarcasm icon...
(@ the mags nad the posting)


C361
Stan


Well, I was just going to say...I've seen extensive corrosion on some relatively new magazines after they were destroyed...that is, between the two halves, near the welds. Depending on the type of magazine, it may have never had a factory finish there. So you can do all the refinishing to the outside that you want, but the corrosion will continue to weaken the welds in those areas.



Not if you uracoat the inside.
4/14/2009 6:57:08 PM EDT
[#32]
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Where do aluminum mags rust?



Sorry,
I forgot the sarcasm icon...
(@ the mags nad the posting)


C361
Stan


Well, I was just going to say...I've seen extensive corrosion on some relatively new magazines after they were destroyed...that is, between the two halves, near the welds. Depending on the type of magazine, it may have never had a factory finish there. So you can do all the refinishing to the outside that you want, but the corrosion will continue to weaken the welds in those areas.



Not if you uracoat the inside.


Please tell me how you are going to duracoat between the two pieces of aluminum that are welded together.
4/14/2009 7:07:26 PM EDT
[#33]
Duracoat will not cause your magazines to last any longer than a normal USGI magazine. Your worries are feed lip creep, spring fatigue, and denting of the body (feed lips, primarily)... None of these things will be prevented in any way by some sort of coating you apply to a magazine.



It is purely visual appeal... there is no benefit, unless you camoflage the magazine to match your terrain.
Put your money into magazines, ammunition, spare parts, optics, training, etc.... No one is going to ban paint.
I have magazines that are more than twice as old as I am... any of the remaining finish is scarce, and only in the cracks. I am never going to refinish any of them. It doesn't do anything. Refinishing a new magazine is on the brink of insanity.
4/15/2009 2:51:57 PM EDT
[#34]
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Where do aluminum mags rust?



Sorry,
I forgot the sarcasm icon...
(@ the mags nad the posting)


C361
Stan


Well, I was just going to say...I've seen extensive corrosion on some relatively new magazines after they were destroyed...that is, between the two halves, near the welds. Depending on the type of magazine, it may have never had a factory finish there. So you can do all the refinishing to the outside that you want, but the corrosion will continue to weaken the welds in those areas.



Not if you uracoat the inside.


Please tell me how you are going to duracoat between the two pieces of aluminum that are welded together.


Did not realise you were talking about the actual seem.



4/15/2009 3:04:54 PM EDT
[#35]
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Where do aluminum mags rust?



Sorry,
I forgot the sarcasm icon...
(@ the mags nad the posting)


C361
Stan


Well, I was just going to say...I've seen extensive corrosion on some relatively new magazines after they were destroyed...that is, between the two halves, near the welds. Depending on the type of magazine, it may have never had a factory finish there. So you can do all the refinishing to the outside that you want, but the corrosion will continue to weaken the welds in those areas.



Not if you uracoat the inside.


Please tell me how you are going to duracoat between the two pieces of aluminum that are welded together.


Did not realise you were talking about the actual seem.





Yeah, I'll get some pictures later, the corrosion is quite extensive with some mags.
4/15/2009 4:58:24 PM EDT
[#36]



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Where do aluminum mags rust?






Sorry,

I forgot the sarcasm icon...

(@ the mags nad the posting)





C361

Stan




Well, I was just going to say...I've seen extensive corrosion on some relatively new magazines after they were destroyed...that is, between the two halves, near the welds. Depending on the type of magazine, it may have never had a factory finish there. So you can do all the refinishing to the outside that you want, but the corrosion will continue to weaken the welds in those areas.






Not if you uracoat the inside.





Please tell me how you are going to duracoat between the two pieces of aluminum that are welded together.




Did not realise you were talking about the actual seem.




Yeah, I'll get some pictures later, the corrosion is quite extensive with some mags.


I haven't seen it on AR mags... but I know that kind of corrosion will absolutely destroy an AK magazine...



 
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