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2/24/2020 7:28:30 AM EDT
It was cheap, but just tapped out my 6th  live round.  Quality problem shut down my afternoon at the range after the 12th shot.

These were about $0.04 / rd cheaper than normal.

https://ibb.co/hdTbqXz
2/23/2020 5:30:41 PM EDT
[#1]
DANGER!!
Just buy factory stuff or reload it yourself.
Not worth the worry.
Or just crimp the remanned ones, if that was your only problem.
2/23/2020 6:01:32 PM EDT
[#2]
The only re-manufactured ammo I'd shoot is Blackhills or my own. BH isn't cheap so...

You'll be sorry when you kB to save 40 bucks.
2/23/2020 6:09:01 PM EDT
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It was cheap, but just tapped out my 6th  live round.  Quality problem shut down my afternoon at the range after the 12th shot.

These were about $0.04 / rd cheaper than normal.

https://ibb.co/hdTbqXz
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more info-wtf?
2/23/2020 6:16:05 PM EDT
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https://ibb.co/hdTbqXz
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FYI:  That link just sent my antivirus software crazy.....    Could be a false positive but I don't typically have an issue with false positives.
2/23/2020 6:22:28 PM EDT
[#5]
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The juice is not worth the squeeze.
2/23/2020 7:00:55 PM EDT
[#6]
With the current price of factory ammo, I can't imagine any reason to buy reman. I never have and never will.
2/23/2020 9:54:06 PM EDT
[#7]
You got lucky it only shut down the rifle temporarily, not permanently.

Learn from this.
2/23/2020 10:27:56 PM EDT
[#8]
Juice is not worth the squeeze.

.223 is $0.30 all day every day and can often be found for less. I can’t be bothered to save a couple dollars at the expense of possibly ruining my rifles or injuring myself.
2/23/2020 10:51:56 PM EDT
[#9]
I will never use anyone else’s reloads.  I do, (almost exclusively)use handloads, notice the different term, except for plinking and non-critical general range practice.

I load my own ammunition, customized for specific rifles and uses in about a dozen different calibers.  Match grade sub 1/2 MOA loads with very pricey Lapua cases, Berger bullets, for example.  Or hunting loads with very high BC monolithic Barnes bullets.

I would not give or sell my handloads to anyone at any price. The ammo is chamber specific for individual rifles.  Nor will I ever chamber non-factory ammo produced by anyone else.

My plinking and bulk ammo is factory made.  I really can’t make it any cheaper, honestly.

The benefit of handloading is precision and being able to load bullets that are not commonly available in factory loads, or to load for rifles that have rare chambers where factory ammo is scarce or unavailable.
2/23/2020 11:43:52 PM EDT
[#10]
I only trust Black Hills (blue box 69gr SMK) remanufactured ammo.  Saving a few $.01 isn’t worth a blown rifle and possible injury.  Shoot a quality round at a affordable price and stock up when it’s on sale.
2/24/2020 6:54:30 AM EDT
[#11]
I concur about Blackhills being the better remanf company out there.

Just note that most firearm companies do not accept warranty for remanf or reloads if it blows up. However, the ammunition manufacturer tend to stand by their products but it's unclear how that will happen for foreign made ammo.

Now keep in mind these are 1 in a million chances. Chances are you may never encounter issues.

I think it's a good idea to pay extra attention to reloads. Generally speaking there are ample warnings before a kaboom. If you read stories of past kabooms, they all seem to have two things in common: 1) they were using reloads or remanuf ammo, and 2) they had signs of problems before something very serious happens.

After shooting, pay attention to the brass casing after shooting. 1) Look for signs of popped primers, 2) look for signs of case crackings, 3) look for signs of deep extractor markings on the case, and 4) if you ever shoot and you hear a "pop" sound (or it doesn't feel as strong as the other rounds) but the case doesn't eject or partially ejects, check for bore obstruction. If you notice any of these signs, stop shooting immediately.
2/24/2020 7:28:30 AM EDT
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2/24/2020 4:10:29 PM EDT
[#13]
I'm shooting 300BLK, so $0.38 / rd is sexy compared to $0.42 / rd.
2/24/2020 4:13:46 PM EDT
[#14]
I have.  I've gotten really good at tapping out live rounds, and not panicking when my gun locks up.

A primer cap fell out of a casing and found its way under my trigger.  Couldn't reset or flip to safe.  Thought, "Why have you forsaken me?!"  But pulled the trigger group out, found the cap, put it all back.

For a guy who's absolutely terrible with mechanical stuff, this has been a tremendous learning experience.

And I'll prolly stop buying the cheap junk.
2/24/2020 4:17:18 PM EDT
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I concur about Blackhills being the better remanf company out there.

Just note that most firearm companies do not accept warranty for remanf or reloads if it blows up. However, the ammunition manufacturer tend to stand by their products but it's unclear how that will happen for foreign made ammo.

Now keep in mind these are 1 in a million chances. Chances are you may never encounter issues.

I think it's a good idea to pay extra attention to reloads. Generally speaking there are ample warnings before a kaboom. If you read stories of past kabooms, they all seem to have two things in common: 1) they were using reloads or remanuf ammo, and 2) they had signs of problems before something very serious happens.After shooting, pay attention to the brass casing after shooting. 1) Look for signs of popped primers, 2) look for signs of case crackings, 3) look for signs of deep extractor markings on the case, and 4) if you ever shoot and you hear a "pop" sound (or it doesn't feel as strong as the other rounds) but the case doesn't eject or partially ejects, check for bore obstruction. If you notice any of these signs, stop shooting immediately.
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Great advice.  Shot my first squib round a couple months ago.  Destroyed the barrel on my Ruger American.   I'd post a pic if I could figure out how.  Bulged the barrel and left a jagged ring inside it.

But now I have the experience.   I know what to look for in the future.
2/25/2020 10:37:51 AM EDT
[#16]
Holy Shit!

Was this squib round from the same batch of reman ammo?
2/25/2020 8:53:36 PM EDT
[#17]
Not really saving money after all.
2/25/2020 9:00:13 PM EDT
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With the current price of factory ammo, I can't imagine any reason to buy reman. I never have and never will.
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Basically this. Before I knew any better I use to shoot Freedom Munitions reman ammo. I never had any issues in the few hundred rounds that I shot but again, with current prices, I don’t think the minor cost savings is worth it.
2/26/2020 10:21:16 AM EDT
[#19]
No thanks, most of the remanufactured ammo is not worth fooling with. After having the primers blow out of a few from my big local commercial reloader.
2/27/2020 12:31:10 AM EDT
[#20]
I shoot reloads in MY guns, the guns they were developed for. I reload 50 rounds per tray, very slowly, Every single round is exactly defined and performed. BEAT ME in my perfection. All other reloaded ammo is far far imperfect for MY shooting in MY guns.
3/9/2020 3:29:28 PM EDT
[#21]
Who was the maker?

I use Angelfire ammo all the time with no issues. They're a local reman with a good rep. I've also toured the facility and they're absolutely psycho about Quality Control.
3/10/2020 8:42:10 AM EDT
[#22]
Black Hills is the only reman ammo worth fooling with. I have tried others and been left regretting it more than once. The cost difference is not there either with the current market prices of new ammo.
3/10/2020 1:36:10 PM EDT
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Who was the maker?

I use Angelfire ammo all the time with no issues. They're a local reman with a good rep. I've also toured the facility and they're absolutely psycho about Quality Control.
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I still dont get how remanned ammo somehow costs more than new brass like wold gold.  And not like 1 or 2 cents either.  Like 5 or 6 cents a round more expensive.

Move to steel cased and the gap opens up to 10 or 12 cents.

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