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11/29/2014 10:51:30 AM EDT
Would Federals 62 Grain Tactical Bonded 223 LE223T3 be a round 1 would choose if you could choose only 1 223/556 ammo type for home defense, deer hunting 1-300 yards, or any other sirtuation you might encounter while using a 223/556 weapon with 16" barrel 1-7 twist? What would be that round? Thanks for your opinions.
11/29/2014 11:23:23 AM EDT
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Would Federals 62 Grain Tactical Bonded 223 LE223T3 be a round 1 would choose if you could choose only 1 223/556 ammo type for home defense, deer hunting 1-300 yards, or any other sirtuation you might encounter while using a 223/556 weapon with 16" barrel 1-7 twist? What would be that round? Thanks for your opinions.
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XM556FBIT3. Same thing in 5.56 pressure.
Or 5.56 Browntip.

Kindof a wash. They differ slightly in different aspects. Both are good to go.
11/29/2014 10:11:44 PM EDT
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I believe the TBBC bullet was and still is DocGKR's first choice in the pinned SD ammo page.  5.56 flavor gives it more legs.  The only downside is the cost unless you buy pulls and load them yourself.
12/2/2014 9:03:49 AM EDT
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I know its the top ammo for penetration but wondering what he would choose if could only grab 1 type of 223/556 ammo for all his needs. Hunting, urban, home defense or military uses. Would it still be the federal le223t3 bonded round. I have 2000 rounds of this but also have alot of hornady 75 grain.
12/2/2014 9:29:51 AM EDT
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Seems like you have done yourself some pretty serious favors, in buying some awesome ammo.  NONE of what you have listed sucks.  Either will do most of anything you ask, save for windshields.
12/2/2014 11:51:16 AM EDT
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Allegedly in high volume uses, exposed lead tips fouls feed ramps and leads to ftfeeds. This is why all military 5.56 is fmj or copper hollow point on the front. No soft exposed lead tips.
12/2/2014 8:56:48 PM EDT
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Allegedly in high volume uses, exposed lead tips fouls feed ramps and leads to ftfeeds. This is why all military 5.56 is fmj or copper hollow point on the front. No soft exposed lead tips.
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I've always heard this, but I shoot a lot of soft point, and have never had it happen.  Then again, I am not on rock and roll, and the volume is probably less than a firefight.  I still think you would have to shoot a metric shit ton, to lead up your ramps to the point of failure.  YMMV
12/3/2014 5:12:18 PM EDT
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Some people, like me, have gotten terrible accuracy with that bullet. Granted, at home defense distance, it doesn't matter much. But I simply will not use a bullet that cannot give me at least 3moa. The Fed Fusion always gives me 2MOA or better and it's much cheaper.
12/3/2014 6:22:47 PM EDT
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Ihave 700 msr fusion and 300 fusion. Federal says le223t3 and xm556t3 are hands down their best 223/556 they offer. They said fusion msr is great bullet at a lower price. Havent done any hunting yet to compare the 2 yet though.
12/4/2014 12:06:59 AM EDT
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I myself wouldn't be using LE223T3 for home defense, sheetrock walls are not going to stop it  
12/4/2014 2:01:58 AM EDT
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I bought a few hundred rounds of XM556FBIT3 when it was available. It's what I keep in my HD mags. But in my rifles about 3+ moa is the best accuracy I get. So it wouldn't be a good choice for hunting, accuracy-wise, for me.

At HD distances I'm fine with it.

BTW, it will penetrate 3 layers of drywall and a brick exterior and go on... elsewhere.

12/4/2014 11:26:14 PM EDT
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I bought a few hundred rounds of XM556FBIT3 when it was available. It's what I keep in my HD mags. But in my rifles about 3+ moa is the best accuracy I get. So it wouldn't be a good choice for hunting, accuracy-wise, for me.



At HD distances I'm fine with it.



BTW, it will penetrate 3 layers of drywall and a brick exterior and go on... elsewhere.



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Like I said in my previous post
12/5/2014 2:11:06 AM EDT
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I bought a few hundred rounds of XM556FBIT3 when it was available. It's what I keep in my HD mags. But in my rifles about 3+ moa is the best accuracy I get. So it wouldn't be a good choice for hunting, accuracy-wise, for me.

At HD distances I'm fine with it.

BTW, it will penetrate 3 layers of drywall and a brick exterior and go on... elsewhere.

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Why would you use it for HD when it will penetrate several walls plus... Do have lots of land and don't need to be concerned with over penetration?

I live with houses in fairly close proximity to me so I my HD/SD mags are loaded with Winchester 5.56 64 GR RANGER BONDED SOLID BASE.

Now if I want to stop a vehicle that's coming down my driveway I have mags loaded with IMI 77gr. MK262 OTM and Hornady 75gr. TAP 2.

Of course my 870 with 1.25oz. slugs will also do a good job on an engine block.  If those don't do it I have 12ga. shells loaded with .50 caliber bullets with traces.  Only problem with those is that they have to be loaded one at a time into the chamber...they wont load from the tubular mag because they are too long.
12/5/2014 3:16:33 AM EDT
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Why would you use it for HD when it will penetrate several walls plus... Do have lots of land and don't need to be concerned with over penetration?

I live with houses in fairly close proximity to me so I my HD/SD mags are loaded with Winchester 5.56 64 GR RANGER BONDED SOLID BASE.

Now if I want to stop a vehicle that's coming down my driveway I have mags loaded with IMI 77gr. MK262 OTM and Hornady 75gr. TAP 2.

Of course my 870 with 1.25oz. slugs will also do a good job on an engine block.  If those don't do it I have 12ga. shells loaded with .50 caliber bullets with traces.  Only problem with those is that they have to be loaded one at a time into the chamber...they wont load from the tubular mag because they are too long.
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I bought a few hundred rounds of XM556FBIT3 when it was available. It's what I keep in my HD mags. But in my rifles about 3+ moa is the best accuracy I get. So it wouldn't be a good choice for hunting, accuracy-wise, for me.

At HD distances I'm fine with it.

BTW, it will penetrate 3 layers of drywall and a brick exterior and go on... elsewhere.



Why would you use it for HD when it will penetrate several walls plus... Do have lots of land and don't need to be concerned with over penetration?

I live with houses in fairly close proximity to me so I my HD/SD mags are loaded with Winchester 5.56 64 GR RANGER BONDED SOLID BASE.

Now if I want to stop a vehicle that's coming down my driveway I have mags loaded with IMI 77gr. MK262 OTM and Hornady 75gr. TAP 2.

Of course my 870 with 1.25oz. slugs will also do a good job on an engine block.  If those don't do it I have 12ga. shells loaded with .50 caliber bullets with traces.  Only problem with those is that they have to be loaded one at a time into the chamber...they wont load from the tubular mag because they are too long.


Ummm.. I hate to break it to you, but that Winchester load is virtually the same thing as XM556FBIT3. Might even be loaded a little hotter. It's a good load. But you should understand that it will penetrate walls and such every bit as well.
12/7/2014 6:45:44 PM EDT
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Some people, like me, have gotten terrible accuracy with that bullet. Granted, at home defense distance, it doesn't matter much. But I simply will not use a bullet that cannot give me at least 3moa. The Fed Fusion always gives me 2MOA or better and it's much cheaper.
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I agree with the above.
12/10/2014 4:40:52 AM EDT
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I live with houses in fairly close proximity to me so I my HD/SD mags are loaded with Winchester 5.56 64 GR RANGER BONDED SOLID BASE.

Now if I want to stop a vehicle that's coming down my driveway I have mags loaded with IMI 77gr. MK262 OTM and Hornady 75gr. TAP 2.

Of course my 870 with 1.25oz. slugs will also do a good job on an engine block.  If those don't do it I have 12ga. shells loaded with .50 caliber bullets with traces.  Only problem with those is that they have to be loaded one at a time into the chamber...they wont load from the tubular mag because they are too long.
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You got those two mixed up bud. Mk. 262 and 75 grain TAP are the fragmenting loads that don't overpenetrate as badly. Bonded Solid Base is what you use to punch through auto glass and car doors. Just a heads up.
12/11/2014 10:55:02 AM EDT
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I agree with the above.
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Some people, like me, have gotten terrible accuracy with that bullet. Granted, at home defense distance, it doesn't matter much. But I simply will not use a bullet that cannot give me at least 3moa. The Fed Fusion always gives me 2MOA or better and it's much cheaper.


I agree with the above.

I've gotten around 2.5 MOA with it. 10 shot groups at 100 yards.
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