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8/25/2012 6:52:23 PM EDT
New to the AR since January.
I've been shooting a lot of American Eagle 55 fmj and some Hornady 55fmj.

I just bought some WPA at Dunhams today.  $5.50 for a box of 20.   Bought 5 boxes for tomorrow at the range.
Quite a bit cheaper that the stuff i've been shooting.

I'm sure this ammo has been discussed in the past.  I searched the last 30 days but couldn't find a good answer.
Any of you had any problems with this ammo.?
I've only heard a few stories of how it damaged the ejector in someones ar.
I've also heard some people say that it's the only thing they shoot.

Just looking for feedback from people who have actually used it.
GOOD.....BAD ????
8/25/2012 7:13:41 PM EDT
[#1]
I've been shooting WPA 62GR fmj almost exclusively since last march. It cycles fine in all 5 of my ar's. It's more accurate for me than i expected it to be. So far a little over 2,000 rds no problems at all. I'll continue to buy it and use it while brass cased prices are up.
8/25/2012 8:35:35 PM EDT
[#2]
I shoot the 55gr stuff almost exclusively. Has run fine for me. Get it from Aim when they have it in stock. About $1 a box cheaper.
8/25/2012 8:53:51 PM EDT
[#3]
It doesnt damage any parts, thats just internet BS.
Its dirty and inaccurate, but fine for plinking.

Some rifles will eat it up no problem, others may have issues for various reasons. (gas port size, buffer weight, chamber specs ect...)
Its good you bought 5 boxes, youll know how your rifles likes it.
My rifles have all shot the steel cased fine.

FYI, WPA/Brown Bear/Silver Bear/Golden Bear are made at the Barnaul factory in Russia. (More squared box with paper packaging)
Tula and WOLF black box are made at Tula factory and are slightly lower quality.
Alot more people report problems with Tula from Walmart for example. (Still fine for most people though)

I have shot a small amount of Tula and it was fine, but I stick to WPA or Brown Bear when shooting steel cased.
8/25/2012 9:02:58 PM EDT
[#4]
You won't know if your AR likes it until you shoot it.
8/26/2012 8:54:38 AM EDT
[#5]
so far I've run several hundred rounds of Wolf, Wolf WPA, and Silver Bear without any problems. Kick is a bit softer, more inaccurate, and a bit smellier and dirtier, but no noticable damage.
8/26/2012 4:12:54 PM EDT
[#6]
Wolf WPA & Military Classic are my main plinking rounds.  Shot around 2000 so far out of a variety of ARs I've built and bought (Noveske uppers, Daniel Defense uppers, Yankee Hill uppers) and I can recall only 1 jam ever on an Noveske upper that wasn't broken in.  In that instance, the casing got half-stuck in the chamber on ejection which was easily removed by pulling on the charging handle and racking in a new round.  



I don't really find them that dirty, especially if you're used to shooting steel cased stuff out of AKs and cleaning them.  I will admit that I clean my ARs very often and the most I've run between cleanings was around 500 rounds with WPA (no jams on that DD build).  The only problem I have with Wolf ammo is the smoke it makes, especially if you shoot at indoor ranges.  It smells like crap.  No damage or excessive wear on any bolt parts that I've noticed either.  
8/27/2012 6:58:06 AM EDT
[#7]
I shoot Wolf all the time, never had a single problem with it. I've have more malfunctions using brass XM193 that wolf.

AS far as semll goes...it realy shouldn't be a problem indoors if the indoor range has good ventilation. My indoor range won't let you use it as there is something in the bullet that can start a fire with the back stop material they use. If a magnet sticks to the ammo, you can't use it.
8/28/2012 10:04:33 AM EDT
[#8]
I have used it without any problems.
8/29/2012 8:36:36 PM EDT
[#9]
The WPA has proven for us to be decent training ammo at a low cost.  We have not had problems in Smith and Colt.
8/30/2012 3:01:13 AM EDT
[#10]
First, keep in mind that Wolf is an importer, not a manufacturer.  WPA is manufactured by Barnaul, the makers of Brown Bear, etc., and is reliable, moderately powerful ammunition.

Second, there are a lot of false stories going around about steel cased ammo messing up your rifle.  There is a difference in how steel cases and brass cases behave, but it is simple: steel isn't as springy as brass, so it doesn't seal the chamber quite as well as brass does, and you'll have to clean your chamber a bit more.  This is worse with weaker ammo (TulAmmo, for example), and people tend to paint all steel-cased ammunition with the same brush; that's wrong.  Just keep your chamber clean and you won't have issues.

My experience with Barnaul-made ammo has all been positive and I've been impressed with the consistency I've seen with it.  It is good range ammo, but not precision ammo - keep that in mind.
8/30/2012 7:40:08 AM EDT
[#11]
Ammunition review and reference thread - entry #15
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