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Posted: 10/30/2011 5:06:46 PM EDT
| Is wolf ammo good to use on a ar 15? |
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depends on your definition of good...
alot of people say that steel case ammo is hard on the extractor, but no one has proved it. the powder used in steel case is also corrosive, so you have to clean your rifle after using steel case. steel casings also dont expand when the round fires like brass does. this allows more carbon to blow back into the chamber, so it will get dirtier quicker. some guns will not cycle steel case ammo very well so you may either need a lighter buffer or a bigger gas port or both. most use a bimetal jacket and some even steel core, and are not allowed at many ranges. steel case cannot be reloaded. accuracy is pretty bad, you wont be getting bench rest groups with it. aside from that, i shoot a few thousand rounds of steel case per year, its cheap plinking ammo. when i feel like emptying mags into the dirt i dont use my hand loads. if you just want some cheap trigger time have it. if you want quarter sized groups, you need to stick to quality match ammo. |
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Quoted: depends on your definition of good... alot of people say that steel case ammo is hard on the extractor, but no one has proved it. the powder used in steel case is also corrosive, so you have to clean your rifle after using steel case. steel casings also dont expand when the round fires like brass does. this allows more carbon to blow back into the chamber, so it will get dirtier quicker. some guns will not cycle steel case ammo very well so you may either need a lighter buffer or a bigger gas port or both. most use a bimetal jacket and some even steel core, and are not allowed at many ranges. steel case cannot be reloaded. accuracy is pretty bad, you wont be getting bench rest groups with it. aside from that, i shoot a few thousand rounds of steel case per year, its cheap plinking ammo. when i feel like emptying mags into the dirt i dont use my hand loads. if you just want some cheap trigger time have it. if you want quarter sized groups, you need to stick to quality match ammo. It's not corrosive powder |
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depends on your definition of good... alot of people say that steel case ammo is hard on the extractor, but no one has proved it. the powder used in steel case is also corrosive, so you have to clean your rifle after using steel case. steel casings also dont expand when the round fires like brass does. this allows more carbon to blow back into the chamber, so it will get dirtier quicker. some guns will not cycle steel case ammo very well so you may either need a lighter buffer or a bigger gas port or both. most use a bimetal jacket and some even steel core, and are not allowed at many ranges. steel case cannot be reloaded. accuracy is pretty bad, you wont be getting bench rest groups with it. aside from that, i shoot a few thousand rounds of steel case per year, its cheap plinking ammo. when i feel like emptying mags into the dirt i dont use my hand loads. if you just want some cheap trigger time have it. if you want quarter sized groups, you need to stick to quality match ammo. Wait wait wait wait. The powder is corrosive? Where did you hear this? Also you do know that corrosive ammo is due to the salts produced in certain primer compounds, not powder. Can you post a link where you got this info from? Spreading bad info doesn't help things |
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ya i always thought it was just the primer that was corrosive.
i shot 200 rounds of tulammo (basically same as wolf) today and i was very frustrated to say the least. i think i may have gotten 5 rounds at most in a row before the gun jammed. at first i thought it could be the mags because i just bought some thermold pre ban mags( i live in NY) and hadnt used them til today. i had some PMC x tac too and the rifle fed perfectly fine with it, needless to say ill never buy steel cased ammo again |
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I agree with everything "thepinkmist" said and...
Also since it is steel it is a lot harder on your chamber than brass. Think about the speed at which the cases are fed and extracted. That is steel on steel with no lube. You will begin to alter the chamber dimensions and your accuracy will nose dive. OTOH it is some cheap shite. But I will never put it in ANY rifle I own. |
| My AR15 eats it up without a problem but my SIG 556 has frequent issues with it. As an aside, I have quit using Russian steel case as I recently had a Ruger P90 disassemble itself when firing Herter's 230 grain ball, due to an obvious overcharge. Ivan at the Tula munitions plant musta been testing the vodka while running his loading machine! It was quite an adventure, resulting in no damage to myself, but I did have to replace the extractor (which I never found) and the left grip panel. Remarkably tough pistol and I'm sure it was a rare occurence, but I'd prefer not to subject my firearms to the possibility of a similar event. |
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ya i always thought it was just the primer that was corrosive. i shot 200 rounds of tulammo (basically same as wolf) today and i was very frustrated to say the least. i think i may have gotten 5 rounds at most in a row before the gun jammed. at first i thought it could be the mags because i just bought some thermold pre ban mags( i live in NY) and hadnt used them til today. i had some PMC x tac too and the rifle fed perfectly fine with it, needless to say ill never buy steel cased ammo again Tula is not made in the same plant as Wolf WPA.. The older Wolf (black box) was.. The Wolf WPA has more kick (about the same as Federal AE 223).. and cycles fine in my 14.5" Middy.. the TulaAmmo functions but will NOT lock the bolt back consistently on the last round for mag changes.. Again.. Wolf > Tula... |
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