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Posted: 6/6/2010 2:34:10 AM EDT
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What are you thoughts on factory reloads that are Non Corrosive, Boxer Primed, Brass Case, Reloadable, Made in the U.S.A?
I have to find the website again but they are selling 1k for $302 shipped. The factory reload is for .223 and here's the link: outdoor marksman I wouldn't think they would be any problems. |
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I shoot Black Hills (blue boxes are remanufactured, red is new), and BVAC. I mostly shoot BVAC since it's the cheapest thing I can get. A couple thousand .223, and a bit over a thousand in .45. It's what most of us at the store shoot because of cost.
Both of these companies make new and remanufactured ammo, the only real difference being the fact that the brass was fired once before. Usually it's once fired 5.56 purchased from the military. Or from ranges that only allow new, or that require you to buy their ammo. Well, they also don't put the more expensive neck and primer sealants since most people buy this as a plinking ammo and not something they are going to store for a long time, or use for hunts in bad weather. You also won't find any reman 5.56 (pressure or spec) because that can only be loaded safely into new 5.56 specific cases. The MK262 seconds from Black Hills, or the 75gr Tactical 5.56 from BVAC for example. Of course I'm sure each company, like almost everyone that isn't new to the industry, has caused a kaboom or two. Load a billion rounds and one or two is bound to be incorrect. The questions are how do they treat you when it happens, and more importantly, how often does it happen? Every maker has either had it happen, or will have it happen. Kind of like the two types of NDs (the one you had, or will have). It's just a numbers game. But, if you're getting half a case showing signs of overpressure, that's another issue entirely and I wouldn't trust that crap for anything. |
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I've got a few $10.00 off $50.00 purchase coupons for Dicks Sporting Goods. When they have the Ultra Max .223 on sale for $49.99 I'll get 150 rounds for $40.00 plus tax. Turns out being 28 cent a round for reloaded brass.
Picked up 600 rounds about a month ago and all of it ran great through my SL-15. |
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The company that reloads them is called outdoor marksman. I have the link on my first post.
This might be a little silly question but i've never seen it before. How would you know if it's over pressured? Will the brass look a little bloated? What other signs should I look for? Quoted:
I shoot Black Hills (blue boxes are remanufactured, red is new), and BVAC. I mostly shoot BVAC since it's the cheapest thing I can get. A couple thousand .223, and a bit over a thousand in .45. It's what most of us at the store shoot because of cost. Both of these companies make new and remanufactured ammo, the only real difference being the fact that the brass was fired once before. Usually it's once fired 5.56 purchased from the military. Or from ranges that only allow new, or that require you to buy their ammo. Well, they also don't put the more expensive neck and primer sealants since most people buy this as a plinking ammo and not something they are going to store for a long time, or use for hunts in bad weather. You also won't find any reman 5.56 (pressure or spec) because that can only be loaded safely into new 5.56 specific cases. The MK262 seconds from Black Hills, or the 75gr Tactical 5.56 from BVAC for example. Of course I'm sure each company, like almost everyone that isn't new to the industry, has caused a kaboom or two. Load a billion rounds and one or two is bound to be incorrect. The questions are how do they treat you when it happens, and more importantly, how often does it happen? Every maker has either had it happen, or will have it happen. Kind of like the two types of NDs (the one you had, or will have). It's just a numbers game. But, if you're getting half a case showing signs of overpressure, that's another issue entirely and I wouldn't trust that crap for anything. |
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I'm not an expert in reloading so I only know what I've read. The guys in the reloading forum would probably be able to give you a very detailed list of what to look for.
From what I understand bulging and rupturing of the case is the most obvious. Split brass could also be a sign that the brass was a bit more than once fired. Primers being blown out of the case, primers that have been flattened against the bolt face, primers that have "flowed" back around the firing pin. The metal is actually pushed back and around the primer because it's under so much pressure. Brass that sticks in the chamber. Imprints of the bolt face and ejector on the cartridge. Unfortunately all of this could be signs of something else also. If you're getting multiple symptoms, I'd assume it was from too high a pressure. Just because I'm the more paranoid sort, and have had a factory reload damage my Kahr, the same day some foreign ammo blew up my buddie's AR, and another guy shooting with us had his AR blow from a different brand of ammo. That was a strange day! Chronographing seems to be the best way in conjunction with seeing what else is happening. If you're rounds are well over the published data for speed, there's a good chance it's a bit higher pressure. If it's a reputable company and not some dude in the back of his garage, it's probably ok. A lot of small factory makers have started up, and I'm guessing that most are loading on the light side so they don't have any problems. |
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