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11/6/2009 9:49:40 AM EDT
Recently I ordered some super colibri ammo. It is clearly marked 22 LR and it does make note that is probably does not have enough punch to cycle an auto rifle or handgun. I ordered 2000 rounds. when I got it, this is what I found



The super colibri is a quarter inch too short to work properly in any magazine I use. I can individually load into the chamber and fire one off but that is a royal pain.

I pointed this out to the company I ordered from and they just didn't get it, so I took this pick to show them.
11/6/2009 9:58:28 AM EDT
[#1]
do your homework next time
11/6/2009 10:41:15 AM EDT
[#2]
Homework? It said 22 LR. I know what 22 LR is. I have two guns that shoot 22 LR. THESE are not 22 LR
11/6/2009 10:54:11 AM EDT
[#3]
I see your point .

Best bet with any rimfire is to testfire the exact brand (and lot number if possible) before laying in a pile.

Not that I consider four bricks a pile,Time to buy a bolt ,lever,or revolver!
11/6/2009 11:03:36 AM EDT
[#4]
They work fine in my ar15 with a ciener kit.  Won't cycle the bolt, but I hand cycle it and it works well.  Does not cycle as well in my Marlin Papoose.
11/6/2009 11:07:43 AM EDT
[#5]
to me the brass looks the same, just not the lead?
11/6/2009 11:13:42 AM EDT
[#6]
Its a tiny bullet.  22 grains or some such.I love shooting cans in the basement with those things.
11/6/2009 11:50:07 AM EDT
[#7]
Aren't those rounds only propelled using the primer, no powder.



That stuff is designed for indoor shooting I believe.
11/6/2009 11:57:12 AM EDT
[#8]
correct, the OP didnt know what he was buying, The cartridge is a .22LR its just a small bullet, that like saying that 55gr 5.56 is not the same as 77gr 5.56. They are both 5.56 just different projectiles.
11/6/2009 12:16:35 PM EDT
[#9]
Mine work perfectly in my Ruger 10/22 and CMMG .22 kit...you just have to treat the gun like a BOLT action and cycle the action after every round.  It's no big deal.  If you live in a suburb these rounds are a god send to quietly practice without having the cops being called on you
11/6/2009 2:50:18 PM EDT
[#10]
Sell them to me cheap.

11/6/2009 4:04:02 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Homework? It said 22 LR. I know what 22 LR is. I have two guns that shoot 22 LR. THESE are not 22 LR


Um, yeah those are .22lr. You just didn't do your homework like everyone else said....

11/6/2009 4:19:11 PM EDT
[#12]
Ummm.  What was the problem again?
11/6/2009 6:43:11 PM EDT
[#13]
Do these rounds have enough oomph to take out a rabbit or squirrel?
11/6/2009 6:47:14 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Do these rounds have enough oomph to take out a rabbit or squirrel?


Yep.  Very much so.  You can take a rabbit or a squirrel out with a BB or pellet rifle.
11/6/2009 6:52:33 PM EDT
[#15]
Another thing about these is that they aren't really THAT quiet.  I would estimate that they put out about 60% to 70% of the noise of a regularly charged 22LR.  I bought a brick to shoot in my backyard without making too much noise, but they were still quite noticeable in my opinion.
11/6/2009 7:55:44 PM EDT
[#16]
They are pellet gun quiet, probably between a benjiman and those break action pellet guns, in a .22 rifle. In a .22 pistol they are firecracker loud.

Light off a regular .22LR or even sub-sonic .22LR then a Colibri and you'll really be able to tell the difference. They feed in some .22s, some they don't. They will not operate the bolt on any semi. They should kill a rabbit or squirrel out to somewhere around 25 yards.
11/6/2009 8:43:22 PM EDT
[#17]
squirrel...most definately...velocity for the super colibri is 550fps if I am not mistaken.  There have been many a squirrel who has chewed through my garbage can and found out how hard 20gr of lead can end an otherwise good day for them!
11/6/2009 9:46:48 PM EDT
[#18]
be careful. they sometimes don't have enough umph to clear the barrel.
11/7/2009 2:59:31 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Recently I ordered some super colibri ammo. It is clearly marked 22 LR and it does make note that is probably does not have enough punch to cycle an auto rifle or handgun. I ordered 2000 rounds. when I got it, this is what I found

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww228/walt_l/supercolibri.jpg

The super colibri is a quarter inch too short to work properly in any magazine I use. I can individually load into the chamber and fire one off but that is a royal pain.

I pointed this out to the company I ordered from and they just didn't get it, so I took this pick to show them.


Methinks you are measuring the wrong thing.  Measure just the cases without the bullets.  They look the same to me.  What are you trying to cycle them in, anyway?  AR-15 with a .22 conversion?  Some other semi-auto .22?  Or a bolt-action of some sort?  If they won't cycle in a bolt-action, I'd be worried.  If they won't hand cycle out of a semi-auto, that's a bit strange, but not unheard of.  I doubt you'll have trouble getting someone on the board to take them off your hands if you don't want them.

If you want something crazy quiet and you're not worried about it actually cycling the bolt on a semi-auto, the 60 grain SSS from Aguila is pretty awesome.  They're a .22 Short case with a really long bullet.  Comes out to the same OAL as most .22 ammo because of that long bullet.  You can barely hear them when fired out of a rifle (I shoot them out of my old Glenfield Model 10 sometimes).  They're really loud when fired out of a handgun, though.
11/7/2009 4:24:05 AM EDT
[#20]



Quoted:


Homework? It said 22 LR. I know what 22 LR is. I have two guns that shoot 22 LR. THESE are not 22 LR


What are you basing this conclusion on? The overall length of the bullet?



A caliber is defined by the diameter of the bullet and the size/shape of the case. The Colibris are most definitely .22LR, albeit with a very short bullet. Overall length for bullets within a certain caliber can vary all over the place.



 
11/7/2009 7:24:39 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
correct, the OP didnt know what he was buying, The cartridge is a .22LR its just a small bullet, that like saying that 55gr 5.56 is not the same as 77gr 5.56. They are both 5.56 just different projectiles.


Actually  IDID know what I was buying. I was looking for a "stelth" load and that is what this round is. I just expected a 22 LR to fit in my Buckmark magazine and my colt AR 22 magazine and they won't.
11/7/2009 7:46:19 AM EDT
[#22]




Quoted:



Quoted:

correct, the OP didnt know what he was buying, The cartridge is a .22LR its just a small bullet, that like saying that 55gr 5.56 is not the same as 77gr 5.56. They are both 5.56 just different projectiles.




Actually IDID know what I was buying. I was looking for a "stelth" load and that is what this round is. I just expected a 22 LR to fit in my Buckmark magazine and my colt AR 22 magazine and they won't.


I think this is what you should have bought instead:  http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=135961





Shoot up what you have.  It is amazing how fast you can shoot through a box, even when loading them in a Ruger 1 round at a time.

11/7/2009 7:50:13 AM EDT
[#23]
read the damn ad - .22 caliber has to do with the diameter of the round, nothing at all with case length, bullet weight, or powder load.
11/7/2009 10:20:00 AM EDT
[#24]



Quoted:




Actually  IDID know what I was buying. I was looking for a "stelth" load and that is what this round is. I just expected a 22 LR to fit in my Buckmark magazine and my colt AR 22 magazine and they won't.


Doesn't feed in my Marlin 99 either, but I didn't buy thousands before making sure. You, however, claimed that this is not .22LR, and that's clearly wrong.



Just find someone to sell them to and see if you can make your money back.



 
11/7/2009 3:04:02 PM EDT
[#25]
Super Colibris feed about 60% of the time hand cycling the bolt in my marlin papoose. They fit in the magazine fine but the feeding problems occur when the round hits the feed ramp and gets misaligned. Sometimes you just have to baby them into the chamber by riding the charging handle.

I love being able to shoot anywhere without hearing protection or worrying the neighbors.  The feeding problems are worth the benefits to me.  I wouldn't use the regular colibris in a rifle for fear of squibs - only the super variety.
11/8/2009 7:54:32 AM EDT
[#26]
Just yesterday I was with a group of guys at the range shooting. I had my old Walther PP in .32 with me. We were shooting at steel knock down targets. The Sellier & Bellot I had knocked them down with no problem but the Aquila's barely made it wobble.  We determined they were very underpowered.
11/8/2009 8:11:34 AM EDT
[#27]



Quoted:


Just yesterday I was with a group of guys at the range shooting. I had my old Walther PP in .32 with me. We were shooting at steel knock down targets. The Sellier & Bellot I had knocked them down with no problem but the Aquila's barely made it wobble.  We determined they were very underpowered.


Well, yeah. They're powered only by a primer. I think I got about 525fps out of a Marlin 99 rifle, so it basically turns your .22 into a BB gun.



 
11/8/2009 8:36:53 AM EDT
[#28]
I can load 5 rounds into my Remington 597 w/o jamming, of course I have to hand cycle them. They are even less than pellet rifle quiet out of a rifle, out of a pistol they do "pop" a bit. Too loud for my cookie-cutter suburban neighborhood. Last time I hit the range with my .22 I brought some with me and shot them at 50 yards. They hit about a foot low and only hit the plywood backboard hard enough to stick into the wood. It was quite funny watching them destabiilize and spiral down the range through my scope. I have shot a cat-sized animal from 15 yards, it took 3 shots to the head to kill, though. None exited the skull
11/8/2009 8:47:30 AM EDT
[#29]
Those are .22 Long, not .22lr.  Same size case, but smaller projectile, usually a 29gr bullet.  .22lr guns can chamber and fire the round without problems, but they generally will not cycle semi-autos.
11/8/2009 9:01:41 AM EDT
[#30]
Has anyone tried these in a lever action rifle.  Most can feed any length 22, but I would think the super colibri, would make it out of a 20" barrel ok.
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