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9/2/2009 10:32:47 AM EDT
Have any of you guys ever had problems with loose primers in Winchester Q3131? I bought 3 boxes from a guy because they were really cheap, lot # HH91, the first box was fine but I shot the second box and had two primers fall out. I didn't know the first one fell out till I picked up the brass, but the second one jammed the gun. Did I get a bad box or is this a common thing?  Some of the casings were starting to get a little corroded, so maybe that had something to do with it.
9/2/2009 12:35:10 PM EDT
[#1]
In the late 90s there were a lot of complaints about a few lots of 3131 that had problems. Is there a date on this stuff? It's ok for plinking ammo but I wouldn't save it for SHTF situations if it 90s production stuff.
leroy
9/2/2009 12:38:57 PM EDT
[#2]
In the late 90s there were a lot of complaints about a few lots of 3131 that had problems. Is there a date on this stuff? It's ok for plinking ammo but I wouldn't save it for SHTF situations if it 90s production stuff. Edited to add, I just reread your thread and saw the 91 in the lot number which is probably the year of production. So yeah, blast with it but don' rely on it for self defense.
leroy
9/2/2009 4:10:06 PM EDT
[#3]
I have had problems lately with Q3131 lots CD01 and BL13.   Had popped primers in two different guns, one with a LaRue barrel and bolt and the other a Noveske Recon with a BCM BCG.  I was averaging one popped primer per box.  Fired brass did not show any other signs of over pressure like bulged cases or flattened primers.  Both guns also had fine bits of brass plug the ejector.





I don't think I'd buy Q3131 right now.



ETA:  The Q3131 came from my department's range so the lots should be recent manufacture (we go through a lot and have a steady turn over in ammo).
 
9/2/2009 5:21:05 PM EDT
[#4]
When you saw recent, do you mean like '09 or '08?  Maybe even '07?  (What is the head stamp on the brass?)
9/2/2009 5:21:36 PM EDT
[#5]
That was weird... double tap.
9/2/2009 7:01:01 PM EDT
[#6]
No problems with WCC 91, lot EH50. I bought it new, and still have some.
Don't have any problems w/ WCC 07 NATO either.

Both out of Colts.
However, my 6920 ejector shreds the crap out of the heads of all brass, leaving cuttings in the chamber, extractor, everywhere.

I would buy more....
9/2/2009 8:33:39 PM EDT
[#7]
I had the same problems with 99 head stamped Q3131.  Send it back to Winchester (after letting them know)  They will pay shipping both ways and replace it without question.
9/3/2009 4:40:48 AM EDT
[#8]
I had problems with some '05, IIRC Q3131a (IMI). I don't recall the lot number. It was blowing primers left and right in a Colt and LMT, both chambered for 5.56.
9/3/2009 10:48:36 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:

I don't think I'd buy Q3131 right now.

 


I agree.  I bought two boxes just to fill out an order, and the ammo was poop.  Damaged rounds, mixed headstamps, sloppy overall appearance.

(08 headstamp I believe)
9/3/2009 10:51:33 AM EDT
[#10]
Been there.  Done that.

I had a few blown primers the last time I bought some of it.

9/3/2009 4:25:31 PM EDT
[#11]



Quoted:


When you saw recent, do you mean like '09 or '08?  Maybe even '07?  (What is the head stamp on the brass?)


WCC 08 with the NATO cross is the headstamp.



 
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