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12/13/2008 1:54:36 PM EDT
Any input on the differences between these?

Both are Federal PN#'s

One more desirable than the other?

Update:

According to wideners.

Federal announces that packaging for XM193 is now done in Anoka, so a new part number (XM193F) was needed for FET purposes. THIS IS THE SAME ammo as XM193, and XM193C and apparently replaces both of these items.
12/13/2008 9:22:57 PM EDT
[#1]
I would like to know the answer to that also. It appears to be the same price as regular 193
12/13/2008 9:27:21 PM EDT
[#2]
Yeah, I'm confused too. I can't find any info anywhere about it.  Not even on Federal's website.

12/13/2008 10:27:15 PM EDT
[#3]
It's all the same stuff. letters indicate packaging.  like 5 or 6 differnt ways it is packed.  All out of the LC plant
12/13/2008 10:41:42 PM EDT
[#4]
Never seen it packaged this way. At least not recently. The first lots of XM193 used to come in white boxes. I don't think it was ever designated "F" though.

12/13/2008 11:29:10 PM EDT
[#5]
I tried googling it but did not get anything usefull.
12/14/2008 2:50:31 AM EDT
[#6]
Maybe they received a new contract from their suppler for boxes
12/14/2008 7:53:11 AM EDT
[#7]
XM193Fuck, we have a lot of this ammo to sell!
12/14/2008 10:02:14 AM EDT
[#9]



Yup... just picked up 10,000 make that 12,000 rounds of that :)
12/14/2008 10:09:32 AM EDT
[#10]
Glossy box with no serrations for stripper-clips?

Interesting, and that's a good price at ltdammo...
12/14/2008 10:40:09 AM EDT
[#11]
Since we know the A is for the stripper clips, I can only assume the F maybe stands for 2008 production ammo?

XM193AF

12/14/2008 10:48:44 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Since we know the A is for the stripper clips, I can only assume the F maybe stands for 2008 production ammo?

XM193AF



Man, I can't keep track of this crap

12/14/2008 11:28:24 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Since we know the A is for the stripper clips, I can only assume the F maybe stands for 2008 production ammo?

XM193AF



The stuff at LTD is 2008 production. I called and asked about the headstamp.

Better get it while it's in stock!
12/14/2008 2:54:59 PM EDT
[#14]
I will be amused if XM193 is 40% cheaper in 5 months
12/14/2008 3:24:45 PM EDT
[#15]



Quoted:

I will be amused if XM193 is 40% cheaper in 5 months
40%??






12/14/2008 4:09:16 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
I will be amused if XM193 is 40% cheaper in 5 months


I don't see any way ammo will be 40% cheaper, even cheaper at all. You already forgot there was an election 1 month ago and the anti gun guys won?


Apparently most manufacturers will be increasing ammo prices 5-15% come Jan :(
12/14/2008 4:13:31 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
I will be amused if XM193 is 40% cheaper in 5 months


I hope you get your chance to be amused.

But, I am buying anyway.
12/14/2008 5:18:24 PM EDT
[#18]
Anybody got a delivery from LTD? Are they good guys like AIM etc?
12/14/2008 5:20:58 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Anybody got a delivery from LTD? Are they good guys like AIM etc?


Slow to ship, over priced. Stay away
12/14/2008 5:37:41 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I will be amused if XM193 is 40% cheaper in 5 months


I hope you get your chance to be amused.

But, I am buying anyway.


Me too

12/14/2008 5:38:28 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Anybody got a delivery from LTD? Are they good guys like AIM etc?


On the first page in the ammo forum there is a thread about it.

Here, had to go down 6 threads to find it...

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=16&t=411576
12/14/2008 5:40:05 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Anybody got a delivery from LTD? Are they good guys like AIM etc?


Slow to ship, over priced. Stay away


Heh, you spent $4k today
12/14/2008 5:42:59 PM EDT
[#23]
ltdammo.com  Offers Top Notch customer service.

I ordered on Monday Dec 8th and it was on my front porch on Friday Dec 12th.
I have also compared the prices to half a dozen other websites,  they offer the best
deal.   Someone on here posted that at Gander in Ohio they could get it for 7.50 a box.
LTDAMMO.COM BEATS THAT PRICE and it's delivered to your door step.

Tom has answered my emails within mins of any questions I had.

Ltd is even cheaper than the auction site.  Which I was surprised to see. Figured
the auction site would be the cheapest.

12/15/2008 10:35:50 PM EDT
[#24]
Tom's gonna have a good Christmas
12/16/2008 6:56:19 PM EDT
[#25]
Sold out!
12/16/2008 7:34:32 PM EDT
[#26]
Wow that was fast, glad I picked up 3k.  Like I needed it, this site has cost me Thousands in the last month
12/16/2008 8:59:54 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Sold out!


Probably the 14,000 that I picked up ;)
12/16/2008 9:08:03 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Sold out!


Probably the 14,000 that I picked up ;)


One day, out of no where some body will kick you in the nuts. He'll be wearing a brown uniform that says UPS on it

12/16/2008 9:08:59 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Sold out!


Probably the 14,000 that I picked up ;)


One day, out of no where some body will kick you in the nuts. He'll be wearing a brown uniform that says UPS on it




My wife said the Fedex guy was swearing today when he dropped off 2000 rounds of .308 *lol*....


12/16/2008 9:39:29 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Sold out!


Probably the 14,000 that I picked up ;)


Where do you store that?  Not really asking but that's been my issue.  You can only store so much without the wife complaining.  Unless you have a warehouse or massive garage.
12/17/2008 6:56:45 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Sold out!


Probably the 14,000 that I picked up ;)


Where do you store that?  Not really asking but that's been my issue.  You can only store so much without the wife complaining.  Unless you have a warehouse or massive garage.



Or you don't have a wife!  
12/17/2008 8:02:42 AM EDT
[#32]



12/17/2008 3:14:17 PM EDT
[#33]
Their price on Winchester 308 is cheap too.  I kicked myself for not buying it for the same price last year at Midway on sale, never saw it again near that price.  Then I just missed out on the last of the GGG at AIM and Wideners a few weeks ago.
12/19/2008 5:08:48 PM EDT
[#34]
I got my shipment today. It is in white boxes, but the cartridges look just like the XM193 we all know and love.
12/19/2008 5:37:13 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I will be amused if XM193 is 40% cheaper in 5 months


I don't see any way ammo will be 40% cheaper, even cheaper at all. You already forgot there was an election 1 month ago and the anti gun guys won?


Apparently most manufacturers will be increasing ammo prices 5-15% come Jan :(


And don't forget the Federal ammo tax that will be added in the next 12-24 months.
12/19/2008 6:25:32 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
I got my shipment today. It is in white boxes, but the cartridges look just like the XM193 we all know and love.


I got my shipment of XM193 today, and the cases are discolored at the top (well, not pretty brass colored as well as the base), and there are black lacquer looking spots all over the casing and large spots at the neck that looks like it was overrun when the bullet was inserted into the shell.    

I will freely admit I am a n00b wrt 5.56 ammo, but is this the way it is supposed to look?  I'm sure it shoots smoother than the milky thighs of an innocent, barely legal young maiden, but considering I had to figuratively hike into the middle of freaking Mordor to find this stuff I was thinking it would look better.  

Maybe I am just being too vain
12/19/2008 7:48:48 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I got my shipment today. It is in white boxes, but the cartridges look just like the XM193 we all know and love.


I got my shipment of XM193 today, and the cases are discolored at the top (well, not pretty brass colored as well as the base), and there are black lacquer looking spots all over the casing and large spots at the neck that looks like it was overrun when the bullet was inserted into the shell.    

I will freely admit I am a n00b wrt 5.56 ammo, but is this the way it is supposed to look?  I'm sure it shoots smoother than the milky thighs of an innocent, barely legal young maiden, but considering I had to figuratively hike into the middle of freaking Mordor to find this stuff I was thinking it would look better.  

Maybe I am just being too vain


The military does not care about pretty. The discoloring is from the annealing process. Rest assured, that ammo has all the right qualities where it counts. Refer to the ammo oracle for more details: http://ammo.ar15.com/ammo/project/select_lcugly.html

12/19/2008 8:44:00 PM EDT
[#38]
Ok that is what I figured but wanted to verify.  Looking forward to warming up the barrel with a little bit :)
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