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12/13/2008 9:56:57 AM EDT
Aren't they the outfit that did some shady stuffy in the past?  Reason I'm asking is cuz I was thinking of buying this:  7.62mm NATO, 147 gr., Israel Military Industries, 250 Rounds, $125.00.

Whaddya guys think?

ETA:  Forget it.  I just ordered 400 rounds from another source.
12/13/2008 10:15:54 AM EDT
[#1]
look here
and
here
12/13/2008 10:25:52 AM EDT
[#2]
Hmm, I coulda had a better deal buying 500 rounds of .308 through them, but, hey, at least I'm getting NEW FACTORY Winchester loads....but at 7 cents more a round.  Oh well, too late, just placed my order.
12/13/2008 10:30:19 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Hmm, I coulda had a better deal buying 500 rounds of .308 through them, but, hey, at least I'm getting NEW FACTORY Winchester loads....but at 7 cents more a round.  Oh well, too late, just placed my order.


I think what you ordered is the better deal, considering that it will all be 100%, with no issues whatsoever, and no rounds to inspect and reject for various reasons.
12/13/2008 10:32:22 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Hmm, I coulda had a better deal buying 500 rounds of .308 through them, but, hey, at least I'm getting NEW FACTORY Winchester loads....but at 7 cents more a round.  Oh well, too late, just placed my order.


I think what you ordered is the better deal, considering that it will all be 100%, with no issues whatsoever, and no rounds to inspect and reject for various reasons.


Yep, you are right.  I feel like ordering more too, but I really shouldn't.

Man, I need to learn how to reload next year!

12/13/2008 1:44:53 PM EDT
[#5]

Okay, just went through an 1100rd case of the 5.56. Here's the breakdown:  108 rds of SP and a few HP's. About 50 rds of the FMJ was not shootable. Here's some pics of a few I pulled out. I especially like the ones with no primer pocket.






12/13/2008 2:37:04 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:

Okay, just went through an 1100rd case of the 5.56. Here's the breakdown:  108 rds of SP and a few HP's. About 50 rds of the FMJ was not shootable. Here's some pics of a few I pulled out. I especially like the ones with no primer pocket.




http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/jdsu50/IMI223_1.jpg
http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/jdsu50/IMI223_3.jpg
http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/jdsu50/IMI223_4.jpg


WTH is that abomination disguising as ammunition?
12/13/2008 3:07:45 PM EDT
[#7]
Hmm, I think I did well ordering what I ordered!  

Oh, and it wasn't seven cents more, it was about the same!
12/13/2008 3:41:46 PM EDT
[#8]
Found these two links about them http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?t=37355

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=800169

I'd say steer clear, although it looks like you already have.
12/13/2008 3:45:46 PM EDT
[#9]
Yep, they are the RGUNS that I remember from back in the day!  Boy, I dodged a 'bullet' not ordering from them.
12/13/2008 7:25:32 PM EDT
[#10]
Damn, I have been close to placing an order with them this week and I think a friend may have.  So is ALL IMI ammo have this issue or is it just the IMI ordered from rguns?
12/13/2008 7:26:18 PM EDT
[#11]
well, ya'll scared me off, too.
12/14/2008 7:59:00 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Quoted:

Okay, just went through an 1100rd case of the 5.56. Here's the breakdown:  108 rds of SP and a few HP's. About 50 rds of the FMJ was not shootable. Here's some pics of a few I pulled out. I especially like the ones with no primer pocket.




http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/jdsu50/IMI223_1.jpg
http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/jdsu50/IMI223_3.jpg
http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/jdsu50/IMI223_4.jpg


WTH is that abomination disguising as ammunition?


This is probably why that ammo was rejected...  They're not selling it as "perfect" ammo, are they?  It's obvious that this is "bulk" stuff, though they could do better at mentioning that it's not "A list" stuff.

Edited to correct wording.
12/14/2008 12:03:45 PM EDT
[#13]
ive ordered about $7K rounds of 5.45 from them with no issues, and was thinking about getting some of the IMI 9mm.
12/14/2008 5:52:16 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:

Okay, just went through an 1100rd case of the 5.56. Here's the breakdown:  108 rds of SP and a few HP's. About 50 rds of the FMJ was not shootable. Here's some pics of a few I pulled out. I especially like the ones with no primer pocket.




http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/jdsu50/IMI223_1.jpg
http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/jdsu50/IMI223_3.jpg
http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/jdsu50/IMI223_4.jpg


Holy shit
12/14/2008 8:07:12 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:

Okay, just went through an 1100rd case of the 5.56. Here's the breakdown:  108 rds of SP and a few HP's. About 50 rds of the FMJ was not shootable. Here's some pics of a few I pulled out. I especially like the ones with no primer pocket.




http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/jdsu50/IMI223_1.jpg
http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/jdsu50/IMI223_3.jpg
http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/jdsu50/IMI223_4.jpg


Damn, I ordered 2 cases of the IMI 5.56 from RGuns last week. I thought the word was that it is good stuff, now I am sad.
12/15/2008 12:42:28 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:

Okay, just went through an 1100rd case of the 5.56. Here's the breakdown:  108 rds of SP and a few HP's. About 50 rds of the FMJ was not shootable. Here's some pics of a few I pulled out. I especially like the ones with no primer pocket.




http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/jdsu50/IMI223_1.jpg
http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/jdsu50/IMI223_3.jpg
http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/jdsu50/IMI223_4.jpg


Damn, I ordered 2 cases of the IMI 5.56 from RGuns last week. I thought the word was that it is good stuff, now I am sad.


Yea it seems they are being very shady not disclosing that kind of info that its factory rejects or what ever is wrong with it.
12/18/2008 5:55:34 PM EDT
[#17]
Has anybody received any of the 9mm yet?  Or better yet, shot any of it?
12/19/2008 5:24:38 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:

Okay, just went through an 1100rd case of the 5.56. Here's the breakdown:  108 rds of SP and a few HP's. About 50 rds of the FMJ was not shootable. Here's some pics of a few I pulled out. I especially like the ones with no primer pocket.




http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/jdsu50/IMI223_1.jpg
http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/jdsu50/IMI223_3.jpg
http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/jdsu50/IMI223_4.jpg


Damn, I ordered 2 cases of the IMI 5.56 from RGuns last week. I thought the word was that it is good stuff, now I am sad.


Yea it seems they are being very shady not disclosing that kind of info that its factory rejects or what ever is wrong with it.


I kinda thought it was obvious that the stuff was seconds by the way it was packaged...loose packed in plastic bags has always said "seconds" or "rejects" to me...
12/24/2008 6:08:21 PM EDT
[#19]
Well my buddy ordered 3,000 rds of 9mm IMI from R-guns and he rcvd one box of about 100 rds of mix year IMI with some other assorted makers.  The enclosed invoice was for the entire 3000rds and even the box was weighed for the entire 3000rds.  Why would R-guns do this?  Do they not realize you can dispute the credit card bill and also ruin there name in the community.  He has e-mailed them for an explaination and also a timeline for him disputing the payment .  He will also contact the weekly publication they advertise in an put thru a complaint if not satisfied.  Anyone else with a similar story?
12/25/2008 6:43:20 AM EDT
[#20]

Wow, that's a rather unique one!
12/25/2008 6:59:09 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Well my buddy ordered 3,000 rds of 9mm IMI from R-guns and he rcvd one box of about 100 rds of mix year IMI with some other assorted makers.  The enclosed invoice was for the entire 3000rds and even the box was weighed for the entire 3000rds.  Why would R-guns do this?  Do they not realize you can dispute the credit card bill and also ruin there name in the community.  He has e-mailed them for an explaination and also a timeline for him disputing the payment .  He will also contact the weekly publication they advertise in an put thru a complaint if not satisfied.  Anyone else with a similar story?
That's so far off base that I think it has to be a major goof on RGuns' part.  Nobody would do that deliberately, for precisely the reasons you mention.

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