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2/9/2008 2:36:58 PM EDT
okay, hello all.

here is my problem.i bought 2 cases of winchester q3131a one case in 2003 and 2004.
i stored them in 50cal ammo cans on stripper clips for my shtf ammo. i have kept them in my back bed room since then in the closet.i decied today to open them up and check on them and was shocked to see the brass in both cans is discolored.from the projectile down its almost a dull gray color to the half way point then . normal brass color.  are these rounds still good?

i have some q3131 I bought in 1994 that is still in original box stored in the same gun safe that i open today that is the normal brass color still.45cal ammo   that i have bought , different brands and years is still normal brass color. no problems with any of my 30-06.

i don't have a digital camera but i will borrow one and post pics when i can.

thanks for any advice
2/9/2008 2:40:05 PM EDT
[#1]
Wierd, we need pics though.
2/9/2008 2:41:26 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
okay, hello all.

here is my problem.i bought 2 cases of winchester q3131a one case in 2003 and 2004.
i stored them in 50cal ammo cans on stripper clips for my shtf ammo. i have kept them in my back bed room since then in the closet.i decied today to open them up and check on them and was shocked to see the brass in both cans is discolored.from the projectile down its almost a dull gray color to the half way point then . normal brass color.  are these rounds still good?


I'm pretty sure that's how they looked like when you put them in the can and, yeah, it's normal.

It wouldn't hurt to put some dessicant packets since you opened the cans.

ETA:  This isn't a great picture, but it's Q3131A from Ammo Oracle:



If the brass is properly annealed, that's how it should look.  Here's another example:



If they don't tumble the brass again after annealing, you have that discoloration and it's completely normal.

I hope that's all you're talking about.
2/9/2008 3:00:34 PM EDT
[#3]
No flashhole on the cutaway case....
2/9/2008 3:07:20 PM EDT
[#4]

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No flashhole on the cutaway case....


Could be a berdan primed case, I think.
2/9/2008 4:07:44 PM EDT
[#5]
That is berdan primed. Look at the anvil in the primer pocket.
2/10/2008 3:23:09 PM EDT
[#6]


thanks guys, yep thats is exactly what the brass looks like. glad to hear its not ruined. it s the first time i ever seen this.
2/10/2008 3:57:47 PM EDT
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ammo.ar15.com/The%20AR15_com%20Ammo%20Oracle_files/556ap.jpg

thanks guys, yep thats is exactly what the brass looks like. glad to hear its not ruined. it s the first time i ever seen this.


Yep, the military ammo doesn't get "polished" like the commercial stuff. So, the case anneal discoloration stays there.

Obviously, your ammo is defective, and you must sent it to me immediately for proper disposal.
2/10/2008 4:18:27 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:
ammo.ar15.com/The%20AR15_com%20Ammo%20Oracle_files/556ap.jpg

thanks guys, yep thats is exactly what the brass looks like. glad to hear its not ruined. it s the first time i ever seen this.


Yep, the military ammo doesn't get "polished" like the commercial stuff. So, the case anneal discoloration stays there.

Obviously, your ammo is defective, and you must sent it to me immediately for proper disposal.


Don't listen to him...send it to me...it's dangerous and only I know how to properly dispose of it...
2/10/2008 6:17:41 PM EDT
[#9]
Its called "Annealed brass", a process of treatement that makes the brass less brittle, more elastic, and able to obturate more efficently in a critical area, the neck and shoulder. IMHO, you WANT properly annealed ammunition. Your ammo is very, very good to go.
2/10/2008 7:38:57 PM EDT
[#10]
All is good. Everything except the price at least.
2/10/2008 11:20:19 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Its called "Annealed brass", a process of treatement that makes the brass less brittle, more elastic, and able to obturate more efficently in a critical area, the neck and shoulder. IMHO, you WANT properly annealed ammunition. Your ammo is very, very good to go.


*is amused at the funny word*

What process is used to do this? It looks to me like the brass is heated to a specific temp for a specific time?
2/11/2008 2:17:30 AM EDT
[#12]
Thats exactly what it is, a heat treat process. Instead of making the brass harder, it relieves stress in the brass and increases the elasticity of the metal.
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