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2/6/2008 4:58:20 AM EDT
Although I'm a "NEWBIE"to this forum I've owned and opperrated many AR's.I've recently purchased a Bushmaster Varmiter and I'm having a problem with 2 out of 5 primers being pulled out of the cases upon firing.Some will get lodged in the bolt-carrier causing a jam that takes an hour or so to disassemble and repair.I only use Federal Premium Match Grade ammo."IS IT ME?"
2/6/2008 5:35:07 AM EDT
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Do the cases show signs of overpressure? Are they factory loads?
2/6/2008 5:55:54 AM EDT
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Yes...They are brand new factory loads.Federal Premium 69gr Gold Medal Match.
2/6/2008 6:03:57 AM EDT
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Assuming that you haven't had this problem before, I would say you have a bad batch of ammo. I assume you've shot other ammo out of this rifle before without any problems?
2/6/2008 6:04:10 AM EDT
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Note:The primers that I can find have a hole all the way through them.And I have removed the firing pin and looked under magnification to see any burrs or distortions and"NOTHING".I exchanged the firing pin with one from another AR and still the same problem.Thanks for the reply...Zhukov
2/6/2008 6:06:22 AM EDT
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I use this ammo in "ALL" of my AR's and this one is the only one that I've had a problem with.
2/6/2008 6:21:15 AM EDT
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Quoted:
Note:The primers that I can find have a hole all the way through them.And I have removed the firing pin and looked under magnification to see any burrs or distortions and"NOTHING".I exchanged the firing pin with one from another AR and still the same problem.Thanks for the reply...Zhukov


Pierced primers is a sign of overpressure.  Blowing primers is a sign of overpressure.  Federal brass is soft, and on a high pressure load, it would not suprise me to see primers falling out.

Overpressure can be caused by the ammo, or the chamber.  On the Varminter - that should have a hybrid SAAMI chamber... which should be fine for any .223 ammo, and likely even shoot 5.56 pressure ammo.  First - I might consider checking headspace just to make sure Bushy didnt screw up.

Have you fired other ammo in this same weapon?  Have you fired the same lot of gold medal in other weapons?
2/6/2008 6:38:02 AM EDT
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First off.....Thanks for your reply FALARAK.I have tried other ammo in this weapon.And have had the same results.I will in fact take it to a gunsmith to check head spacing.Thanks again
2/6/2008 6:47:18 AM EDT
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First off.....Thanks for your reply FALARAK.I have tried other ammo in this weapon.And have had the same results.I will in fact take it to a gunsmith to check head spacing.Thanks again


Yep - if all ammo shows signs of pressure - then something is wrong with the chamber.  I'd call Bushmaster first, and let them make it right.
2/6/2008 7:03:26 AM EDT
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Yikes! Yeah - you should have mentioned the pierced primers and that ALL ammo was doing that.  Don't shoot that rifle again until you get it checked out.
2/6/2008 7:21:44 AM EDT
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Yikes! Yeah - you should have mentioned the pierced primers and that ALL ammo was doing that.  Don't shoot that rifle again until you get it checked out.


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CXS
2/6/2008 7:49:44 AM EDT
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OMG!!!!!....I'm buying a Sword.
2/6/2008 8:03:05 AM EDT
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OMG!!!!!....I'm buying a Sword.


A deuling sword?
2/6/2008 8:16:43 AM EDT
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For those who ask:  "Why does the military crimp in primers?"  


Federal brass is soft, and on a high pressure load, it would not suprise me to see primers falling out.
 

And, it's not limited to Federal Brand.

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Folks........it's NOT that your ammo is showing signs of  "pressure."   It's "over pressure'" that's the problem/fault.   The FACT that the bullet is sent on it's way down the barrel........is a sign of "pressure."  

But, this "figure of speech" is a common mis-statement.  Like the word: "Bullet" being used when speaking about a "cartridge."

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The classic/common “over pressure” signs, are the flattened primers, "blown” primers and/or sometimes pierced primers.  Though, pierced primers could also point to a fault with a firing pin.  As, most of us don't have a real lab with a pressure barrel.........we can only speculate that we are correct when we site, “over pressure.”   Because, bad brass and the primers, could also be at fault (ie. loose, due to under sized primers and/or over sized pockets, etc., you get the picture).

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Aloha, Mark
2/6/2008 8:43:04 AM EDT
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Quoted:

Quoted:
OMG!!!!!....I'm buying a Sword.


A deuling sword?








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