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Posted: 1/22/2008 4:39:17 PM EDT
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I am looking for Match Grade Subsonic .223/5.56. That is if there is such a thing. I'm looking to buy a small amount of Subsonic Ammo, maybe 60 rounds max. But I can't really find any for sale. I found some TTI loads on ImpactGuns and I heard that Hunting Shack has a subsonic load. Everything else I come across is that damn Extreme Shock cheesy ammo. Does anyone have experience shooting subsonic ammo? What kind of accuracy can be expected? Advice or things I should know when shooting subsonic? I'm looking/hoping for a load that is at least 2 MOA capable and doesn't cycle automatically. Thanks 
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First off you need to cruise over to the suppressor forum...these guys know their stuff. www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=6&f=20 I'm quite the novice at shooting subs but I have figured out a couple of things. Subs are great at the range and impressing chicks but they have very limited practical use...especially in a .223. You won't have to worry about cycling your rifle. Unless you have a sub-specific upper built, all subs will turn your AR into a bolt gun. As for the accuracy, I can't speak for the .223 but in .308 the weight of the bullet and twist of your barrel are a huge determining factor. I've also learned that the type of bullet used in crucial. A 168 BTHP out of my 1:12 barrel is sideways at 50 yards while a 147 FMJ is still flying good at 100 yards. Subs also take a little getting used to when shooting them. Your follow through becomes REALLY important. I'm not sure if this will help you or not but I get my subs from the same guy I bought my can from. You might start with your dealer. He may know of someone locally that loads there own subs. That being said, a lot of trust goes into shooting someone elses reloads...just something to remember. Good Luck |
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If want cycling subsonic then ES is your only option. I have heard of some cycling subsonics from other manufactueres existing but not for sale to the public. I cannot confirm or deny that. You really should test accuracy in YOUR rifle with teh various subsonics rather than buying 60 of one type and finding out after the fact your rifle hates the load. |
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The problem is this; I don't have personal time to play with "my" rifle. As it turns out it actually belongs to Uncle Sam. They are only issuing M855 and Mod 262, the subsonic will be tested and I'll get my dope on them in Country. That's why I'm asking for people who have actually shot them and can give me their "no shit" first hand opinion on what works and what doesn't. I probably won't even have a scenario where I'd be justified using them. However I figure it'll take me 40 rounds to compile decent data and it'll leave me 20 of them to play around with if a scenario presents itself where I have something to shoot at and want to make as little sound as possible. |
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If you are just looking to make your rifle sound like a popcorn machine and maybe kill a rabbit then your best bet is to buy a Ciener conversion kit, use 22 subsonic (cheap) with your can. You can swap it out in 10 seconds. As you probably know, the can makes the 5.56 sound like a 22 long rifle shot. When you use the Ciener and 22 subsonic shot through the same can, the loudest noise is the hammer hitting the firing pin. |
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