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12/15/2007 6:28:17 PM EDT
anyone heard of vac sealing your ammo for extended storage ? does anyone think there would be a difference for dry boxes? please give your opinion
12/15/2007 6:32:28 PM EDT
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anyone heard of vac sealing your ammo for extended storage ? does anyone think there would be a difference for dry boxes? please give your opinion


Many threads on this.  If boxed - its ok - if you add dessicant as well.  Problem is - vac sealling loose ammo typically the vac bag isnt up to any abrasion, and it fails to acheive the long term storage requirements.  Ammo left in sealed ammo cans is good for at least 40 years..... lots of examples of that.  Ammo left boxed on a shelf and kept dry - probably the same.

What are your requirements?  Katrina?
12/15/2007 6:57:47 PM EDT
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i,ll runing short on room in the house that she will allow ammo[i'm a ammo whore and admit it openly] to be stored time to use the barn or out building i live in a cool damp enviro. on the coast
12/15/2007 6:59:58 PM EDT
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i,ll runing short on room in the house that she will allow ammo[i'm a ammo whore and admit it openly] to be stored time to use the barn or out building i live in a cool damp enviro. on the coast


Then an ammo can for sure.... vac sealed and nothing else is a recipe for failure.
12/15/2007 7:04:50 PM EDT
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thanks . any other opinions
12/15/2007 8:27:21 PM EDT
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If you have alot of money, store it in a Pelican case. Otherwise, ammo cans with desiccant would also be the way I'd store the ammo.
12/15/2007 9:30:53 PM EDT
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If an ammo can is good enough for the .mil, then it is good enough for me.
12/15/2007 9:37:32 PM EDT
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i,ll runing short on room in the house that she will allow ammo[i'm a ammo whore and admit it openly] to be stored time to use the barn or out building i live in a cool damp enviro. on the coast


Then an ammo can for sure.... vac sealed and nothing else is a recipe for failure.


Why would vac sealed food saver bags not work?  Just curious. I was thinking about making 200 round battle packs with some loose ammo I've got laying around and ammo not already stored in ammo cans.

Edit:  Moisture isn't a real big problem in MT.  It's pretty dry up here.
12/16/2007 1:11:37 AM EDT
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runing short on room in the house that she will allow ammo to be stored


DDUDE!

12/16/2007 1:18:44 AM EDT
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Ammo cans are the way to go. I keep mine in an interior closet. Clymate controled (in the house, Duh). I'm at 16 ammo boxes full now with about 8 empties. They will soon be filled.

I had 5.56mm in an ammo box for 10 years and opened it up last month. Brand new fresh ammo and shoots great.
12/16/2007 4:35:59 AM EDT
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I recently purchased a metal 5 shelf unit from WalMart. Each shelf can hold up to 250 pounds . It doesn't take up that much room and should be just fine. If you want to hide it you could use one of those Japanese screens or something as simple as a shower curtain. Even better is you could use the shelf as a skeleton and attach wood flooring/planks or wood to make it look like an expensive cabinet. Or you could get rid of the girlfriend.
12/16/2007 5:00:58 AM EDT
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SHE never complains about the $ i spend on firearms or ammo or anything else she just doesn't like that much ammo in the house . don't ask me why, i don't ask. i figure if i can keep stacking it up no matter where it is store i'm good with that.
12/16/2007 5:31:02 AM EDT
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If i were going to vacum seal it i would still want it in some sort of container ,even a sturdy homade wooden box would work.Just the vacum bags would allow the ammo to be damaged if something fell on it or if it were droped.The military ammo cans work best,you can usually pick em up at a surplus store for 4-5 bucks for 50 cal and 2 -3 bucks each for the 5.56.the 50 cal cans work great for ammo in boxes,plus nothing short of of a direct hit from a JDAM will dammage a military ammo can.
12/16/2007 11:01:37 AM EDT
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When I have bought either new or surplus brass and bullets they are shipped in plastic and after years of storage a few nicks in the plastic is all that has occurred.I got a boatload of preprimed berdan SA .308 cases also that I have had no problems firing even with the nicks in the bags.The wife has one of them seal a meal deals with tons of bags ....one useless present from my sister for Xmas yeas ago that I am going to use and double or even triple bag..that ought to work in a few of those waxed heavy two piece boxes produce comes in from the grocery stores......boxed shotgun shells I will do first which have got to more perishable than brass cased ammo
12/16/2007 11:01:43 AM EDT
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The military spent over a million dollars to design a solution to this problem, and you can buy one for only a few dollars.  It's called an Ammo Can, and it was designed specifically to hold (wait for it...) ammo!

Not using ammo cans is pretty dumb, considering how many advantages they have.  And vacuum-sealing the ammo in bags to place into the ammo cans is both redundant and adds lots of extra time and hassle if you need to use that ammo quickly.

So, again, the correct answer is the AMMO CAN.

-Troy
12/16/2007 11:27:02 AM EDT
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The military spent over a million dollars to design a solution to this problem, and you can buy one for only a few dollars.  It's called an Ammo Can, and it was designed specifically to hold (wait for it...) ammo!

Not using ammo cans is pretty dumb, considering how many advantages they have.  And vacuum-sealing the ammo in bags to place into the ammo cans is both redundant and adds lots of extra time and hassle if you need to use that ammo quickly.

So, again, the correct answer is the AMMO CAN.

-Troy


I don't know, Troy.....what do you really think?
12/16/2007 12:29:35 PM EDT
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i,ll runing short on room in the house that she will allow ammo[i'm a ammo whore and admit it openly] to be stored time to use the barn or out building i live in a cool damp enviro. on the coast


Then an ammo can for sure.... vac sealed and nothing else is a recipe for failure.


Why would vac sealed food saver bags not work?  Just curious. I was thinking about making 200 round battle packs with some loose ammo I've got laying around and ammo not already stored in ammo cans.

Edit:  Moisture isn't a real big problem in MT.  It's pretty dry up here.



ive tried vac sealing ammo several different ways, here is what ive found with each attempt:

1.  SEALING BANDOLEERS = Best way i have found, the cardboard sleeves and bandoleer keep the rounds from punturing the bag

2.  SEALING BOXES = Works pretty good, the edges of the box may pop a hole in the bag

3. SEALING ROUNDS ON STRIPPER CLIPS = Does not work, the bullets and stripper clips will always punture a hole. i tried making 200 round battle packs with all rounds on stripper clips and one charger. they all eventually failed.

4. SEALING LOOSE AMMO = Rounds will penetrate bag, that is that.


I sealed mine for long term storage, after sealing i always store them in an ammo can and mark it as ammo i dont use (SHTF ONLY). and i only store the good stuff, SS109. all of my 308 is the SA battle packs.

Some guys dont like the idea of sealing them. but i see it as another barrier of protection. better safe than sorry.


one thing you could try is essentially vac sealing the ammo cans. there is a place that makes oxygen absorbers that will do just that. throw them in the ammo can and close it. but you cant open it until your ready to use it.
12/16/2007 7:33:39 PM EDT
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I had some boxes of random ammo in 2 50 cal cans, and I condensed them to one can after putting them all on stripper clips.

I only had 300 rounds in one can and ~500 in the other so it all went into one with lots of room to spare.

And its nice and organized on the stripper clips. Now I gotta do it to the 600 rounds of wolf I have in my closet.
12/17/2007 5:50:48 AM EDT
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The military spent over a million dollars to design a solution to this problem, and you can buy one for only a few dollars.  It's called an Ammo Can, and it was designed specifically to hold (wait for it...) ammo!

Not using ammo cans is pretty dumb, considering how many advantages they have.  And vacuum-sealing the ammo in bags to place into the ammo cans is both redundant and adds lots of extra time and hassle if you need to use that ammo quickly.

So, again, the correct answer is the AMMO CAN.

-Troy


I tend to agree...  
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