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11/10/2006 2:08:17 PM EDT
So I bought my first battle pack of Guat on a whim today, and don't think I'll be getting any more. Out the 320 rounds, probally 100 were corroded. The first pic is the "corrosion sampler", from best to worst.



Close-up of the nastiness......



The majority look like this.....



Obviously I won't be shooting the "worst", but how about the minimally affected ones? How do I ensure they are safe (other than pulling the trigger )?

On a happier note, I scored this for $2.99 a box

11/10/2006 2:14:16 PM EDT
[#1]

Quoted:


On a happier note, I scored this for $2.99 a box

i15.tinypic.com/47t72ba.jpg


I hate you.

My local dealer has the new WWB at like $6.99...

He did have .223 TAP at $16/box...
11/10/2006 2:15:52 PM EDT
[#2]
Bastard......WWB is 4.99/box here
11/10/2006 2:17:46 PM EDT
[#3]
You should have seen the Guat I got from Centerfire years ago. My buddies were too scared to shoot it. I shot it all up, worked great.
11/10/2006 2:17:50 PM EDT
[#4]
$4.99 a box, the $2 off all Winchester centerfire. It's all gone now.
11/10/2006 2:18:56 PM EDT
[#5]
I don't wish to minimize your experience, but the ammo in the photos you showed isn't all that bad.  In fact, I have a case where about ten percent of the rounds look that good, and the rest look worse.  In some cases, a LOT worse.

Still, it all goes bang in my rifle and shoots to point of aim with my XM193 zero.
11/10/2006 2:19:01 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
You should have seen the Guat I got from Centerfire years ago. My buddies were too scared to shoot it. I shot it all up, worked great.


How'd it compare to this? I'm a little leary of the stuff on the right side of the line up.
11/10/2006 2:22:59 PM EDT
[#7]
There is NOTHING wrong with that Guat other then it's not fired yet. Either shoot it, [it'll go bang guaranteed] or I'll buy it from you for 10 cents a round......
11/10/2006 2:24:21 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
There is NOTHING wrong with that Guat other then it's not fired yet. Either shoot it, [it'll go bang guaranteed] or I'll buy it from you for 10 cents a round......



+1
11/10/2006 2:33:48 PM EDT
[#9]
$3 per box of 30?   At that pirice I would buy 10k.   Shoot it!

11/10/2006 2:35:11 PM EDT
[#10]

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$3 per box of 30?   At that pirice I would buy 10k.   Shoot it!



Nope, the 3131 was $3 a box. And yes, I'll shoot the Guat.
11/10/2006 2:37:20 PM EDT
[#11]
I would shoot all of them, no problem.
11/10/2006 5:25:01 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
Obviously I won't be shooting the "worst", but how about the minimally affected ones? How do I ensure they are safe (other than pulling the trigger )?


Relax. It'll work just fine...
11/10/2006 5:31:01 PM EDT
[#13]
I still have some of the isreali mixed headstamp surplus that came in an ammo can complete with desert sand dust inside.
11/10/2006 5:37:31 PM EDT
[#14]
 I shot 1700 rounds of the tarnished Guat during a two day carbine class at Tactical Response.  Most looked just like yours.  I had zero malfunctions.  If it were still available at the tarnished price I'd probably bankrupt myself buying it up.
11/10/2006 6:24:20 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
There is NOTHING wrong with that Guat other then it's not fired yet. Either shoot it, [it'll go bang guaranteed] or I'll buy it from you for 10 cents a round......


+1

That's not even close to the bad stuff; and even the bad stuff worked fine.  I wouldn't store it for a decade, but it will make fine plinking (or bump-firing) ammo.
11/10/2006 6:33:59 PM EDT
[#16]
I'll take the newer Guat over Q3131...
11/10/2006 7:26:27 PM EDT
[#17]
toss it in a tumbler and then shoot it.
11/10/2006 9:10:30 PM EDT
[#18]
All you guys are just jealous…..
On a subject, this is not “corrosion”, it is “tarnish” (not a damage to the brass, just cosmetics). If you so paranoid, try to use a steel wool on it and you will see….
Q3131 at this price – what a SOB to post this score here!
11/10/2006 9:17:07 PM EDT
[#19]
The verdict is in........I'll be "getting rid" of it all tommorow.
11/10/2006 9:18:36 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
toss it in a tumbler and then shoot it.

Bingo,, it will look better and make you feel better I guess even though its just a cosmetic thing.  I had most of one crate I ordered earlier this year that wasnt that bad but I did tumble it and it shoots great.
11/11/2006 12:24:53 AM EDT
[#21]
I don't think minor surface corrosion is a big issue so long as it is not near the case head. Make sure it is just surface corrosion, and nothing textured or deep.


11/11/2006 11:03:13 AM EDT
[#22]
As others have said, there's nothing wrong with it.

Some of my Guat looked like this



and it still worked fine!
11/11/2006 11:13:03 AM EDT
[#23]


Thats why its surplus
11/11/2006 11:20:30 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
On a happier note, I scored this for $2.99 a box


Sports Authority Huh?  Sometimes they have great deals.  Most times not though.
11/11/2006 1:00:21 PM EDT
[#25]
I just got a case from AIM and opened it today.  It is Lot 4 with a year stamp of 00.  90% of the 90 rounds I hand inspected were clean and comparable to my XM193.  10% had what I can best describe as "water spots".  I would not classify what I saw as corrosion, just spots.

Regards,
Gary
11/11/2006 2:55:08 PM EDT
[#26]
I bought a case of Guat at the last gunshow, and mine looks exactly like yours. Half of the ammo had those marks, and half mostly clean. I've gone through about 600 rounds of the 1440 case (I'm shooting the worst stuff first) and it's all shot fine, no problems at all. My lot was from 02/1990.
11/11/2006 5:00:50 PM EDT
[#27]
Ok, just got back from the range. I'm a believer. Now I gotta stock up.

It seems as though this stuff is loaded REALLY hot. Accuracy wasn't measured, but it shot "minute-of-bowling pin" at 50 yards. All is well.
11/11/2006 5:08:41 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
It seems as though this stuff is loaded REALLY hot.


It is M193.  It is the same "hotness" as any other M193.
11/13/2006 3:57:41 PM EDT
[#29]
I bought some Guat at the Bloomington gun on Saturday. I had read on this forum that it was good stuff. Once I bought it and got home I found this thread. Got me concerned. So I went to the gun store today and bought some stripper clips and started opening battle packs. I found some corrosion? Blemishes? Kind of weird looking. One battle pack had 4 bad boxes, one had 2 bad boxes, one had no bad boxes, the last one I opened had 5 bad boxes. So 11 bad out of 48 in the case. Not really bad, looks perfectly fine for shooting. Some of the bad boxes had unaffected rounds. The good boxes looked very good. Not as shiney as Radway, but good as other surplus ammo I have got in the past. Weather permitting, I will try and get out and shoot some of it tommorrow.

Other info:
Marked lot 6
06 JUL 1989
headstamp was IMG 6-89

Prices are going up. $308 out the door for 1440 rounds. The Radway I bought was $165, can, clips, bandoliers, 720 rounds.

Tired of putting rounds on stripper clips. Budweiser time. If I respond back to this thread later tonight, just ignore me. 8-)

Scott
11/13/2006 10:24:16 PM EDT
[#30]
I bought some of the Guat awhile back and it looked terrible when it came out of the box.  I just put it through the tumbler and it looks much better and shoots fine.  Even before I tumbled it, I shot some of the better looking stuff.  Still had some spots on it but it cycled like any other.  
11/14/2006 4:42:58 AM EDT
[#31]
The first time I ordered some of the Guat I culled a box full of rounds that looked just like that. I was hesitant to shoot those rounds until I read here that guys were shooting rounds that looked worse than mine, so I fired all of my ugly rounds in my Colt SP1 and they worked like a charm.
11/14/2006 8:29:05 PM EDT
[#32]
Hey!

You should ignore me. Went to the range. 120 rounds of the bad, discolored stuff. Perfect. No malfunctions of any kind. Thought I might run the bad ones thru the tumbler. Why? Shoot this stuff first, pretty ammo on the stripper clips ready for whenever. Would have shot more but the drizzel was soaking thru my coat. Those plastic water bottles have a mind of their own. They bounce into the air and hide behind the 4x4 target supports. Fun time.

Scott
11/14/2006 9:30:30 PM EDT
[#33]
who here counted the number of Q3131 boxes in the score?!  we are sick!
11/14/2006 9:40:25 PM EDT
[#34]

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who here counted the number of Q3131 boxes in the score?!  we are sick!



Sorry........ I usually miss out. I vowed to make it up to myself.
11/14/2006 9:42:31 PM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:


On a happier note, I scored this for $2.99 a box

i15.tinypic.com/47t72ba.jpg



Liar
11/14/2006 10:00:26 PM EDT
[#36]
Thier mistake, my gain.


Does that make me a bad person? Yep......I'll take it back in the morning.
11/14/2006 10:23:35 PM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:


On a happier note, I scored this for $2.99 a box

i15.tinypic.com/47t72ba.jpg


I would buy 15,000 rounds at that price.
11/14/2006 10:50:51 PM EDT
[#38]
If they had it, I'd have bought it.
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