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Posted: 8/31/2006 7:13:06 AM EDT
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Are these available to civilans? Where? Bri |
Nope, I wouldn't. The tungsten carbide would make it very expensive, and it is useless for any application I have for ammo (plinking, anti-personnel). I don't forsee attacked any armored vehicles anytime soon, which is the only thing it's good for. I could get much better ammo for less $ |
+1 And I don't know what good it would do even against armor. I mean shit.... after a 5.56 sheds the jacket when it passes through some armor. You're not going to have much of a projectile left over. 
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| Guys, have any of you compared the penetration data of the M993 to traditional steel core 7.62/30-06 AP? The Tungsten Carbide kicks butt. The same principle applies to the M995 exceeding the M855 penetration capabilities. Granted it would be pricey, and would only be good again Zombies who are wearing body armor or driving Mack Trucks for assault vehicles, but I would love to have a some for a rainy day. |
It isn't much of an anti-personnel round. |
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I guess that if it were free I'd take some, but the cost that it would entail is not worth it's benefits, IMHO. It's like the ppl that sell M855 for $1/round. Yes, M855 is good for some things, but not for $1/round. |
Cool! I'd like to have a box or two of that myself, just for shits & giggles. |
DocGKR says it works very well on automobiles and passes completely through hard body armor. |
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Amen. The Rangers that robbed a bank a while back did so wearing hard armor, FWIW. |
Platt and Matix? |
Not entirely true. I've heard mixed reports of the M995 having a different coloring to the jacket in the M249 belts, reports of a blackened coating on the bullets similar to the black coating that Winchester uses on their Combined Technology Noslers for reduced fouling. I'd love to get to play with the M995 round a bit along with the M993 round, they should be the best penetrating rounds for those chamberings against hardened materials. The FAS.org pics of the rounds show a very interesting projectile core that is unlike that of either the M2 30-06AP or the M61 7.62Nato AP rounds, both of which I've tested fairly throughly.
The M995 round is lighter than standard, have heard of 52grain projectile weight but not sure if that's correct. More velocity would certainly be beneficial to the round at closer ranges. |
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www.inetres.com/gp/military/infantry/rifle/556mm_ammo.html M995 bullets weigh 52 grains and have a black tip. Beware--some NATO SS109 bullets also have a black tip. Greek ammo reportedly does. |
Gee, ummm... let me think... oh yeah! AP 223 is great for killing people who are wearing ceramic trauma plates. That was an easy question. BTW, even if you can't get mil-surp AP 223, look around there are plenty of custom ammo makers who make AP .223, some of it certainly will outperform M955. I love the carbide stuff, nothing like turning armor plate into swiss cheese. Turns this:  into this: 
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But how will be shoot down the black helos? 
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NTSA FFL holders may only sell AP ammo to another FFL holder or a LE agency. Anyone may legally buy it under federal law. A non FFL holder may sell it to anyone under federal law. AP ammo is one of those rare situations where being an FFL holder results in more restrictions on what you can sell. |
But the common perception and media led sheeple say otherwise.... That must make it true.... |
Just re-read ammo oracle and all I can say is BAAAHHH!!! I didn't read carefully enough!  I always thought M995 was illegal for civvies to own. |
The only thing about the AP ban is with reference to manufacturers and distrubitors selling recent manufactured AP ammo directly to civilians. And there are also penalty enhancements for crimes where AP ammo was used in the commission of a crime. |
Damn...I was gonna go and knock over a bank with this here M1, loaded up with M2AP. But now that there is a penalty enhancement for using AP ammo, I think I'll just stay home. |
You know, up until you said that I thought that that law was totally useless. And here I am glad to know that it protected me or my fellow civilians from dangerous criminals. |
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