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Posted: 5/27/2006 6:11:44 PM EDT

There has not been a TAP price increase in almost a year and a half !

Posted: 5/27/2006 6:13:12 PM EDT

[#1]

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According to Kathy, get your orders in prior to the end of next week !

I hope you are going to stock up

Posted: 5/27/2006 6:15:42 PM EDT

[#2]

It's already ridiculously expensive and hard to find, yet LEOs can get the real deal (5.56) anytime for $110/200 shipped. What is the street price going to be now? $1 a round?

Posted: 5/27/2006 7:10:46 PM EDT

[#3]

5.56 LE stuff also? How much? I may need to order an ass load of it if its going up much.

Posted: 5/27/2006 7:42:35 PM EDT

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5.56 LE stuff also? How much? I may need to order an ass load of it if its going up much.

I still want 200rds and have the funds now. Lemme know if someone buys a bunch.
Clint

Posted: 5/28/2006 9:53:43 AM EDT

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5.56 LE stuff also? How much? I may need to order an ass load of it if its going up much.

yeah, it is all the LEO stuff.
Plus, they now have a 55 gr Practice Round,
I do not know how much it is But, they will only sell 500 rd case lot
also,
I do not know how much the price increase is,but, Kathy sent me a hand written note to stock up !

OK, approx $90.00 per 500 rds of 55 gr steel cased .223 rem practice ammo
OK, nine percent price increase

Posted: 5/29/2006 4:04:55 PM EDT

[#6]

According to Kathy, when I talked to her last week, practice ammo is $217 per 1000 shipped to your door for LEO's until 6/1/06

Posted: 5/29/2006 6:01:18 PM EDT

[#7]

Lucky, I just ordered 400 rounds of Hornady TAP 62 grain Barrier rounds.

Posted: 5/30/2006 5:07:34 AM EDT

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Posted: 5/30/2006 11:36:26 AM EDT

[#9]

So it will cost $119.90 for 200 rounds instead of $110.00? Damn that sucks.

Posted: 5/30/2006 2:00:23 PM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
Quoted:
5.56 LE stuff also? How much? I may need to order an ass load of it if its going up much.
yeah, it is all the LEO stuff.
Plus, they now have a 55 gr Practice Round,
I do not know how much it is But, they will only sell 500 rd case lot
also,
I do not know how much the price increase is,but, Kathy sent me a hand written note to stock up !

OK, approx $90.00 per 500 rds of 55 gr steel cased .223 rem practice ammo
OK, nine percent price increase

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Posted: 5/30/2006 4:18:30 PM EDT

[#11]

9%!??!?!?

Thats insane!

There goes peoples ability to afford the ammo who are not LE

Posted: 5/30/2006 5:04:16 PM EDT

[#12]

Thanks for the heads-up! I'm ordering more.

Posted: 6/1/2006 7:29:47 AM EDT

[#13]

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Lucky, I just ordered 400 rounds of Hornady TAP 62 grain Barrier rounds.

How are these compared to the TBBC rounds? I know the HORN 60gr barrier is not up to the TBBC standards, wondering how the additional 2gr effect performance? -Justin

Horn vs. TBBC

Posted: 6/1/2006 11:07:12 AM EDT

[#14]

www.tacticalforums.com/cgi-bin/tacticalubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=78;t=001179

I am damn near positive it meets FBI req's. Just no hard numbers.

Does anyone know if the 62gr barrier rounds have an exposed lead nose like the TBBC?

Posted: 6/1/2006 11:51:33 AM EDT

[#15]

Thanks for the heads up!!
Just picked up some of the 75grn 5.56 TAP and 500 rounds of the steel cased training ammo.
What bullet do they use in the training ammo?

Posted: 6/1/2006 12:20:30 PM EDT

[#16]

The regular cannelured 75, not the T2 IIRC.

Posted: 6/1/2006 12:47:52 PM EDT

[#17]

I have seen a lot of people mention prices for LE...where and who is selling to LE for a discount. I need to order some TAP and any discount would be great!

Posted: 6/1/2006 2:02:32 PM EDT

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I have seen a lot of people mention prices for LE...where and who is selling to LE for a discount. I need to order some TAP and any discount would be great!

order direct from Hornady. it was $110.00 for a 200 round case deliverd before the price increase. dont know what it is now.

Posted: 6/1/2006 4:53:26 PM EDT

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Quoted:
Quoted:
Lucky, I just ordered 400 rounds of Hornady TAP 62 grain Barrier rounds.

How are these compared to the TBBC rounds? I know the HORN 60gr barrier is not up to the TBBC standards, wondering how the additional 2gr effect performance? -Justin

Horn vs. TBBC

I think that their (Hornady's) new load is pretty good. I looked at the Federal Tactical 62 grain but it is just far too expesnive for my blood even though I am sure that it is very good. The cheapest that I could find it was $162.00 for 200 rounds. I got 400 rounds of the Hornady 62 grain Barrier for $210.40 SHIPPED direct from Hornady with the LE discount.

I compared the tests of the 62 grain TAP Barrier round with that of the Federal Tactical load and they were fairly close but it was obvious that the Federal load exceeded the Hornady in weight retention and in penetration. I have used the TAP 60 grain and it was very accurate in my rifle so I don't have a problem with the Hornady loads. I got one of their 3 ring binders with all of their ballistic testing if anyone is interested in any of the information.

Posted: 6/1/2006 4:55:39 PM EDT

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www.tacticalforums.com/cgi-bin/tacticalubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=78;t=001179

I am damn near positive it meets FBI req's. Just no hard numbers.

Does anyone know if the 62gr barrier rounds have an exposed lead nose like the TBBC?

Yes, it is an exposed lead nose like the Federal load.

Posted: 6/1/2006 5:14:03 PM EDT

[#21]

Can you tell me your experiences with the Hornady TAP 62gr round? Accuracy, function, muzzle flash in the dark, anything would be most helpful. Especially if you are able to make comparisons to the TBBC as a reference point. Thank you.

Posted: 6/1/2006 5:19:11 PM EDT

[#22]

INTrooper4255
Where can you get the federal tactical 62gr for $162
I just bought 200 rounds and paid just over $200

Posted: 6/1/2006 5:37:28 PM EDT

[#23]

PP, IM sent

Posted: 6/1/2006 5:45:45 PM EDT

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Can you tell me your experiences with the Hornady TAP 62gr round? Accuracy, function, muzzle flash in the dark, anything would be most helpful. Especially if you are able to make comparisons to the TBBC as a reference point. Thank you.

I haven't shot any of it yet. It is what I am going to us in my new LMT MRP for a duty gun. When I get it, I will test the ammo.

INTrooper4255
Where can you get the federal tactical 62gr for $162
I just bought 200 rounds and paid just over $200

I got that quote from Kielser's Police Supply in Jeffersonville, IN. That was their LE price.

Posted: 6/1/2006 6:12:29 PM EDT

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Here is some ballistic information comparing the TAP 62 gr Barrier to the Federal Tactical Bonded 62 grain. Mind you, these are from each manufacturer's testing!

M4 14.5" Barrel

Steel

Federal 62 Gr. Tactical Part# LE223T3 and Hornady 62 Gr. TAP Barrier Part# 83285

Velocity: 2869 FPS-Federal
Velocity: 2593 FPS-Hornady

Total Penetration: 16.00"-Federal
Total Penetration: 14.75"-Hornady

Retained Weight: 54.1 Gr.-Federal
Retained Weight: 40.9 Gr.-Hornady

M4 14.5" Barrel

Bare Gelatin

Federal 62 Gr. Tactical Part# LE223T3 and Hornady 62 Gr. TAP Barrier Part# 83285

Velocity: 2616 FPS-Federal
Velocity: 2569FPS-Hornady

Total Penetration: 16.00"-Federal
Total Penetration: 16.00"-Hornady

Retained Weight: 60.9 Gr.-Federal
Retained Weight: 42.8 Gr._Hornady

M4 14.5" Barrel

Glass

Federal 62 Gr. Tactical Part# LE223T3 and Hornady 62 Gr. TAP Barrier Part# 83285

Velocity: 2716 FPS-Federal
Velocity: 2601 FPS-Hornady

Total Penetration: 13.50"-Federal
Total Penetration: 9.13"-Hornady

Retained Weight: 33.7 Gr.-Federal
Retained Weight: 23.5 Gr.-Hornady

Posted: 6/1/2006 6:27:26 PM EDT

[#26]

Only 9.13" through autoglass? That is dissapointing to say the least.

Even the 60gr barrier round they ditched achieved more penetration @ ~9.75".

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