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1/20/2026 11:27:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: StealthyBlagga][Edited]
Anyone else see the SHOT announcement about the new drop-in cassette trigger for the MP5?

I’ve had a long-standing pre-order for a PTR version of their MP5 ARC-Fire lower - a project they just abandoned as it didn’t meet their longevity requirements. Instead, they will be launching the ARHK, a cassette FRT that drops straight into the OEM grip module.

AS Designs offered to convert my pre-order to an ARHK and refund the difference. They seem like a stand-up bunch. Here is the prototype photo they sent out.

1/20/2026 11:29:07 PM EDT
[#1]
I am apparently not cool enough.  What is it?
1/20/2026 11:35:30 PM EDT
[#2]
Subscribed
1/20/2026 11:39:24 PM EDT
[#3]
Drops into the existing lowers or a specific after market?
1/20/2026 11:48:28 PM EDT
[#4]
Dang, did ASD hit two grand slams on the same day? What do we have here?
1/21/2026 12:00:29 AM EDT
[#5]
Any pictures?
1/21/2026 12:00:51 AM EDT
[#6]
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Originally Posted By JTX23:
Drops into the existing lowers or a specific after market?
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Existing factory housing drop in.
1/21/2026 12:59:55 AM EDT
[#7]
Picto or SEF
1/21/2026 1:00:56 AM EDT
[#8]
Imagine one of these with a CARL in a 4 position picto lower


Pure fuckin tits man
1/21/2026 1:01:18 AM EDT
[#9]
Looks good!
1/21/2026 1:03:16 AM EDT
[#10]
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Originally Posted By HKH:
Imagine one of these with a CARL in a 4 position picto lower


Pure fuckin tits man
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1/21/2026 7:47:08 AM EDT
[#11]
Originally Posted By StealthyBlagga:
Anyone else see the SHOT announcement about the new drop-in cassette trigger for the MP5?

I’ve had a long-standing pre-order for a PTR version of their MP5 ARC-Fire lower - a project they just abandoned as it didn’t meet their longevity requirements. Instead, they will be launching the ARHK, a cassette FRT that drops straight into the OEM grip module.

AS Designs offered to convert my pre-order to an ARHK and refund the difference. They seem like a stand-up bunch. Here is the prototype photo they sent out.

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Ok, that's awesome.  Thanks for the update OP!
1/21/2026 9:14:25 AM EDT
[#12]
I just cancelled my PTR lower last week and they refunded me. I couldn’t keep waiting and I read about the durability issues with that design. I should have waited to get mine converted to the new pack.

Does anyone know if it will work with rifle calibers? Do you still have to use a slip trip?
1/21/2026 11:13:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: StealthyBlagga][Edited] [#13]
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Originally Posted By Chisel:
I just cancelled my PTR lower last week and they refunded me. I couldn’t keep waiting and I read about the durability issues with that design. I should have waited to get mine converted to the new pack.

Does anyone know if it will work with rifle calibers? Do you still have to use a slip trip?
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My trigger will be going into a PTR 9CT. Their email said the lower project was abandoned because the test samples failed durability testing in the G3 platform. This implies to me that the new cassette trigger pack will work with both MP5 and G3, but I can’t be sure because they know I plan to use it in an MP5 clone.
1/21/2026 11:20:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By StealthyBlagga:


My trigger will be going into a PTR 9CT. Their email said the lower project was abandoned because the test samples failed durability testing in the G3 platform. This implies to me that the new cassette trigger pack will work with both MP5 and G3, but I can’t be sure because they know I plan to use it in an MP5 clone.
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Originally Posted By StealthyBlagga:
Originally Posted By Chisel:
I just cancelled my PTR lower last week and they refunded me. I couldn’t keep waiting and I read about the durability issues with that design. I should have waited to get mine converted to the new pack.

Does anyone know if it will work with rifle calibers? Do you still have to use a slip trip?


My trigger will be going into a PTR 9CT. Their email said the lower project was abandoned because the test samples failed durability testing in the G3 platform. This implies to me that the new cassette trigger pack will work with both MP5 and G3, but I can’t be sure because they know I plan to use it in an MP5 clone.

I'd really love to stick this in my PTR 91.

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1/21/2026 12:36:43 PM EDT
[#15]
I'm definitely in for the details.

I won't swap my current guns over but willing to use this in future builds.
"My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori." -Wilfred Owen
1/21/2026 12:48:50 PM EDT
[#16]
I’ll be in my bunk. Anyone heard a timeline or pricing?
1/21/2026 1:49:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: StealthyBlagga][Edited] [#17]
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Originally Posted By heavyduty:
I’ll be in my bunk. Anyone heard a timeline or pricing?
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Based on the information sent to me, I’d guess around $500 and 10 weeks. I’m not affiliated with ASD in any way and I don’t have any inside info, so don’t hold me to this.
1/21/2026 2:03:36 PM EDT
[#18]
Is this going to be two or three position?
1/21/2026 2:04:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By heavyduty:
Is this going to be two or three position?
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Its 3 positions.
1/21/2026 2:20:32 PM EDT
[#20]
I have a FRT from them as they were at The Gathering last year.  This year I will have cash like last year to buy on the spot if they have this.
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1/21/2026 2:27:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By s3igu2:


Its 3 positions.
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Originally Posted By s3igu2:
Originally Posted By heavyduty:
Is this going to be two or three position?


Its 3 positions.


Did you design this one also?
Planning for this to work in 91s, 93s, etc with an ejector change plus trip?
"My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori." -Wilfred Owen
1/21/2026 2:37:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bye_Felicia:


Did you design this one also?
Planning for this to work in 91s, 93s, etc with an ejector change plus trip?
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Yes and it currently works with basically everything by swapping ejectors except 7.62x39, no FA carrier required and no trip in the upper its all fully contained in the lower.
1/21/2026 2:48:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By s3igu2:


Yes and it currently works with basically everything by swapping ejectors except 7.62x39, no FA carrier required and no trip in the upper its all fully contained in the lower.
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1/21/2026 2:50:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By s3igu2:


Yes and it currently works with basically everything by swapping ejectors except 7.62x39, no FA carrier required and no trip in the upper its all fully contained in the lower.
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Originally Posted By s3igu2:
Originally Posted By Bye_Felicia:


Did you design this one also?
Planning for this to work in 91s, 93s, etc with an ejector change plus trip?


Yes and it currently works with basically everything by swapping ejectors except 7.62x39, no FA carrier required and no trip in the upper its all fully contained in the lower.


That's awesome. Sooooo HK21 chance?
"My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori." -Wilfred Owen
1/21/2026 2:56:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HKH:
Picto or SEF
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Hopefully they offer both
1/21/2026 3:20:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By s3igu2:


Yes and it currently works with basically everything by swapping ejectors except 7.62x39, no FA carrier required and no trip in the upper its all fully contained in the lower.
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Bro

You’re saying the 53 will run this?
1/21/2026 3:21:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HKH:

Bro

You’re saying the 53 will run this?
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Originally Posted By HKH:
Originally Posted By s3igu2:


Yes and it currently works with basically everything by swapping ejectors except 7.62x39, no FA carrier required and no trip in the upper its all fully contained in the lower.

Bro

You’re saying the 53 will run this?


Ya, I need to pick up a Century MKE 53 it seems.
"My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori." -Wilfred Owen
1/21/2026 3:29:38 PM EDT
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1/21/2026 3:31:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HKH:

Bro

You’re saying the 53 will run this?
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Correct we will also be testing the 21 soon.
1/21/2026 3:44:55 PM EDT
[#30]
I’m nowhere near as knowledgeable about HK as ARs. Will it work in my PTR 91?
1/21/2026 4:02:34 PM EDT
[#31]
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Originally Posted By mak0:


Hopefully they offer both
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Either, it's a drop in trigger pack
1/21/2026 4:28:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By s3igu2:


Yes and it currently works with basically everything by swapping ejectors except 7.62x39, no FA carrier required and no trip in the upper its all fully contained in the lower.
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Originally Posted By s3igu2:
Originally Posted By Bye_Felicia:


Did you design this one also?
Planning for this to work in 91s, 93s, etc with an ejector change plus trip?


Yes and it currently works with basically everything by swapping ejectors except 7.62x39, no FA carrier required and no trip in the upper its all fully contained in the lower.

@s3igu2
Is the ejector going to be included or do we need to pick one up?  If the latter, what do we need to get?
1/21/2026 5:00:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JTX23:

@s3igu2
Is the ejector going to be included or do we need to pick one up?  If the latter, what do we need to get?
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As i understand they will be selling it with the ejector installed for whatever you pick at checkout, you can use the factory uncut ejectors also no need to cut the ejector anymore, so if you later decide you wanna swap the ARHK from like a MP5 to a g3 then you just swap the ejectors also from your g3 into the ARHK or buy a new ejector.
1/21/2026 5:20:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By s3igu2:


As i understand they will be selling it with the ejector installed for whatever you pick at checkout, you can use the factory uncut ejectors also no need to cut the ejector anymore, so if you later decide you wanna swap the ARHK from like a MP5 to a g3 then you just swap the ejectors also from your g3 into the ARHK or buy a new ejector.
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Originally Posted By s3igu2:
Originally Posted By JTX23:

@s3igu2
Is the ejector going to be included or do we need to pick one up?  If the latter, what do we need to get?


As i understand they will be selling it with the ejector installed for whatever you pick at checkout, you can use the factory uncut ejectors also no need to cut the ejector anymore, so if you later decide you wanna swap the ARHK from like a MP5 to a g3 then you just swap the ejectors also from your g3 into the ARHK or buy a new ejector.


I can't wait to get my hands on one of these!
"My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori." -Wilfred Owen
1/21/2026 5:22:19 PM EDT
[#35]
Very interesting.
Any chance the selectors will line up with the marks on original lowers?
1/21/2026 5:34:32 PM EDT
[#36]
The value of HK-21 kits will double when a functioning HK FRT hits the market.


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1/21/2026 5:40:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By s3igu2:


Yes and it currently works with basically everything by swapping ejectors except 7.62x39, no FA carrier required and no trip in the upper its all fully contained in the lower.
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this might be more interesting than the Arc 45/90 for the mp5...so standard lowers, factory and Mag-pul or just factory?
1/21/2026 5:41:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jeeps-And-Guns:
Very interesting.
Any chance the selectors will line up with the marks on original lowers?
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As of now they will line up with and look the best with the Navy 3 position markings. Down the road we will probably have more selector style options to better fit the look of the other style housings depending on demand for those.
1/21/2026 5:43:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BlackbirdRider:


this might be more interesting than the Arc 45/90 for the mp5...so standard lowers, factory and Mag-pul or just factory?
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I haven't put it in the magpul housing to say for sure but yes i think it will work fine in that housing also.
1/21/2026 6:58:05 PM EDT
[#40]
Is there a projected price yet? I need to start saving for this.
1/21/2026 7:10:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MHIDPA:

Either, it's a drop in trigger pack
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Originally Posted By MHIDPA:
Originally Posted By mak0:


Hopefully they offer both

Either, it's a drop in trigger pack


If it's one pack designed to work in either housing that would be terrific. Is there any confirmation of this?
1/21/2026 7:12:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Heartbreak3r:
Is there a projected price yet? I need to start saving for this.
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I have no idea about the price yet i just do the dev work on some of the projects, i will say tho that its a fully custom assembly everything is specifically designed from the ground up for the HK housings. So a custom ARC assembly with a new universal trip system contained in the drop in housing and also the FCG parts are all designed specifically for this project.
1/21/2026 7:15:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By s3igu2:


I haven't put it in the magpul housing to say for sure but yes i think it will work fine in that housing also.
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I have one and would be happy to try it in mine if that would help out the cause...
1/21/2026 8:36:40 PM EDT
[#44]
Welp, I'll start saying goodbye to my leftover stash of steel case .308. My PTR's appetite sounds like it'll be increasing.
1/21/2026 9:25:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cherenkov][Edited] [#45]
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Originally Posted By Alpha-17:
Welp, I'll start saying goodbye to my leftover stash of steel case .308. My PTR's appetite sounds like it'll be increasing.
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Are they taking pre-orders - +1 on the stash that needs burning up I have a ton of stashed 308 ammo I need to dust off form the late 80s forward- I'm too old not to start FRTing it away.

I literally have  two cases of Chinese 308 Fake Radway Green and some old Norinco  I haven't had the heart to bother opening and a few more thousand rounds of plastic 308 with the training bolt!!!!  Plastic 308 and an FRT!!!!
1/21/2026 10:08:11 PM EDT
[#46]
So is there a process to change my lower and arc fire order?  

I guess I will sending be them an email at least.
1/21/2026 11:56:47 PM EDT
[#47]
As a drop in - It should work with both Shelf and push pin lowers or not?

I have both set ups - It would be handy to know if it only works with only push pin (AP5, POF, MAC) or Shelf (PTR, HK, early Century 91 clones, C93 etc)

1/22/2026 1:22:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By cherenkov:
As a drop in - It should work with both Shelf and push pin lowers or not?

I have both set ups - It would be handy to know if it only works with only push pin (AP5, POF, MAC) or Shelf (PTR, HK, early Century 91 clones, C93 etc)

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I believe it’s expected to drop into both types.
1/22/2026 8:51:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By StealthyBlagga:


I believe it’s expected to drop into both types.
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Thanks - It helps to know if I must buy one or two.

Special Thanks to the developers!!!!
1/22/2026 8:51:32 AM EDT
[#50]
This could push me over the edge to make me finally break down and buy a MP5 clone.

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