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Posted: 8/20/2014 6:31:30 PM EDT
| well now that i have jumped in with both feet how about some more advice from you folks out there. i'm now looking for an ar-10 , should i build or buy? if i decide to buy which ones should i be looking at? would like something that is accurate with factory ammo, not something i have to reload to make happy. lots of coyotes around here that cause a lot of irrigation problems on the farm. average shots are around the 2 to 250 yd range. i know its over kill for coyotes but plan on using it for other game as well. thanks |
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Budget will be a big deciding factor on what type of AR10 you can buy or build. The AR10 platform is more 'finicky' than its little brother the ar15. There is far less standardization and generally fewer cheap prices. Generally these days I recomend shooters build a gun for themselves as long as they have a good idea of the parts they want because it allows them to save bits of money here and there by getting what they want the first time and not buying replacement parts.
With that said the AR10 to me is not the same game. AR10s are more likely to have gassing issues and can be a real pain in the rear to 'dial' in. When you have issues with the way the ammo preforms in terms of working the rifles action that ends up costing you a lot in range time trying to get the problem fixed. There are some really great companies out there that make really great guns like the AR10. You haven't shown a very strong case for why you need a 308 round in lieu of a 223 round. The price difference can be staggering and in terms of ballistics the 223, 6.8, 300blk, 5.45, 204, 6.5 grendel or a slew of other calibers would all be substitutes that could easily run off of the ar15 platform. If you are the stuborn type and you say yea well I want the big gun then go team. You also have the fn scar17 which can show some amazing accuracy. I would suggest jumping into the variants section a few subsections down found here there are lots of real smart dudes who have put a hell of a lot of time into very specific sub-genres of shooting. The DPMS G2 series seems to be showing promise and there is a lengthy review. Colt has the 901 offering that some have liked lately. We have CORE that makes the 30 line which is what you are looking for. Me personally I shot an HK91 for the longest time with a wilson set trigger and really liked it/didn't see the need for an AR10. I sold that and have recently built up a mega maten which uses mostly ar15 parts which works nicely for me. Really I just yapped your ear off. I don't know which one to get damn near every company has a 308 ar now days start looking around in variants and get an idea of what people like then research the shit out of it. You are going to want to look into this a lot more than some other gun purchases because different rifles offer different capabilities dealing with bolt/barrel/fore-end/magazines. Good luck and don't go cheap on your mount and glass. |
| Thanks for all the info, not to sound like money doesnt matter because of course it does, but i will spend whatever it takes to get what i want. Already have a few 15's just want something different than the regular old bolt guns to hunt with. Already have plenty of them. Love the looks of the black gun and want an accurate reliable one. A have a super 100 yd range at the house with a great bench and mot only love hunting but love to just shoot. I will keep looking around and asking, all advice is greatly appreciated and useful. Thanks again for your help!!! |
| Do you have one of the rugers? If so what do you think about it? Have looked at one but don't know anyone who has tried one. About the PSA lower can you also tell me the advantage of getting one of those vs. the complete gun route? Sorry if these sound like moronic questions!! |
| An AR-15 would be fine for coyotes but if you have other plans for it also... like they said the AR-10 is going to be a little more difficult item. It's kind of a newer platform, so you're not going to have as many options available to you especially if you want to build. And prices may be a factor. You might be best off looking for a complete rifle. I've heard good things about the S&W M&P10 so far, it would be worth taking a look at them at least. |
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Do you have one of the rugers? If so what do you think about it? Have looked at one but don't know anyone who has tried one. About the PSA lower can you also tell me the advantage of getting one of those vs. the complete gun route? Sorry if these sound like moronic questions!! 
The reason you get the uppers/lowers and build your own over the complete gun is that you don't buy gun parts on a complete gun that you plan on changing out anyway. If you want your gun to be custom and you know what you are doing you can piece it together part by part. The hard thing is knowing that the AR10 line has those different specs that I mentioned before. I would suggest buying one of the factory guns that is put together in a way that you like already. Use some of the names you have seen already and search off of that. Notice you are getting people that just say the name no reasoning behind why it is superior or worth buying? Many of those people probably have never shot the other versions or shot them over extended periods. Some examples you can start searching for. Ruger SR762 S&W MP10 WINDHAM SRC DPMS G2 (there are several variants of these so pay close attention to what you are reading about and what you actually buy) POF 308s ARMALIGHT AR10(A) LMT MWS or LM8 LWRCi REPR RAINIER ARMS LARUE OBR COLT 901 other folks can keep adding to the list I guess. Lots of smaller shops as well. |
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Thanks for all the responses. Nickforney in the pic is the one in the back the DPMS GII ? American hunter had a great revue on one. Just wonderin Im afraid it is not that is a build that I did with a mega receiver set. I don't have any experience personally with the GII but it seems that people have been giving pretty decent reviews of them. One thing to really watch for is that videos and magazines are generally very nice about reviews. You don't need that. You need to find someone honest who has experience with different 308 ar's and will give you the full story. here is one review from an arfcomer if you are interested in the DPMS there is a large thread about it here |
| Building vs buying an ar in .308 is a bit different and more complicated than an ar-15. If you plan on taking whitetail and hogs as well as coyotes go with the .308. I don't like the idea of shooting a 150+ lb. animal with a 223 at 200 yards. If you plan on making each shot count at $0.50/rnd go with the 308. It's far superior to most other calibers but it might not be necessary for what you want to do. I personally love the ar platform in .308. If you want a budget .308 rifle check out dpms. Some people may talk down on DPMS because of their past reputation with ar-15s, but I have found the LR-308 to be nothing short of fantastic for the price. I bought a complete lr-308 orracle with dust cover and forward assist for $1060 and then started changing things after I got a feel for the rifle. So yes, you can save some $$ building but you won't have a matched upper and lower that were made specifically for each other. Also don't have to worry about proper gas and buffer tube sizes, finicky feed ramps. I think the new dpms G2 shows a lot of potential with all of the weight reduction and improvements. I think they are some of the best entry level .308 ARs out there. |
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