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Posted: 7/29/2014 8:14:54 PM EDT
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So I'm looking to build my first AR for mainly hunting and range shooting. Home defense not as important but I would like to still be able to maneuver around if or when TSHTF. Not going to lie Im very new at this but have always wanted an AR and want to build most of it so I can really understand my rifle. I'm a machinists so I feel confident that I can manage, So far I have an aim's lower receiver and just picked up and cmmg lpk.
So this is where i'm heading any suggestions advice do's and don'ts are welcome, I was thinking of going for a 18"-20" barrel for better accuracy. Seem to be leaning towards the flat top and quad rails which seems to be slowing me down a little because all the deals are for the basic models. Of course ill be adding a scope, flashlight, and bi pod when needed. My budget for the upper is 500-550 http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/ARR-645 found this one on cheaper than dirt. I plan on doing a camo paint for concealment in the woods but I don't know how It will hold to he stainless and if I'm going to have any problems adding a flash break or not? If you guys have any suggestions please don't hesitate theres so many choices.... 
I also keep hearing about bcm blems are the way to go but they don't have any in stock. I mean I can always go with the standard hand cover flat top rail and just add a better rail I just don't really understand the gas systems that well yet and what all is involved looking to order my upper very soon and gathering tools and building a workbench in the meantime. Any insights on scopes for hunting would be great too Thanks in advance! “America was not built on fear. America was built on courage, on imagination and an unbeatable determination to do the job at hand.” |
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Bravo Co moved a lot of product during their last two sales. Good reason why too: they were offering a great product at a great value.
PSA has 20" complete uppers on sale, and PSA makes a great product as well. link I'm sure you've read about PSA's ship times being frustrating for some people. I can attest to that but supposedly they've upgraded their shipping system recently and are processing orders faster now than they were 2 months ago. If you expand your budget just a little you can have an amazing rifle. There are several drop in rifle length quad rail options that you could install into that PSA upper. KAC RAS for $150 (link) or Midwest Industries for $160 (link). And you're free to spend your money they way you want to, but shit from CTD like this below right after Sandy Hook pissed off many gun owners. I haven't bought from them since. 
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| thanks for the response and yeah screw them I heard about guys doing that crap wont be buying from them. I really like the Midwest rail any thoughts on scopes? im open to expanding the budget for an amazing rifle....I just don't really know what is worth the money and whats not. |
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And you're free to spend your money they way you want to, but shit from CTD like this below right after Sandy Hook pissed off many gun owners. I haven't bought from them since. http://www.gunssavelife.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/gougemasters.jpg Thanks for that pic. I have used them before, then saw mixed reviews on here about them. That pic tells me everything. |
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I was thinking of going for a 18"-20" barrel for better accuracy. Accuracy has little to do with barrel length. Longer barrels give you an increase in velocity, and an increase in effective range. An 18" barrel is a great compromise. They come with either a 9" or 12" gas system. Either is fine, however some notice less perceived recoil from a 12" due to the longer dwell time the gas spends in the gas tube before engaging the bolt. Regarding barrel contour, I'd recommend a .750 government profile or a heavy barrel. The heavy barrel is a compromise between a gov't profile and bull barrel. You still get a stiff barrel for long range shooting without it being too heavy to lug around. The .936" bull barrels are way to heavy unless you only plan to carry them short distances, like to and from a bench or to and from an ATV. Pick a 1-7 or 1-8 twist barrel so you can stabilize heavier, longer projectiles such as the 77 grain bullets. Regarding quad rails, they tend to be great holders for rail covers. Sounds funny, but it's possible to have too much railed real estate. If you can find a rail or tube that features places to add smaller rail sections as needed, that's better. I hope that helps! |
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Accuracy has little to do with barrel length. Longer barrels give you an increase in velocity, and an increase in effective range. An 18" barrel is a great compromise. They come with either a 9" or 12" gas system. Either is fine, however some notice less perceived recoil from a 12" due to the longer dwell time the gas spends in the gas tube before engaging the bolt. Regarding barrel contour, I'd recommend a .750 government profile or a heavy barrel. The heavy barrel is a compromise between a gov't profile and bull barrel. You still get a stiff barrel for long range shooting without it being too heavy to lug around. The .936" bull barrels are way to heavy unless you only plan to carry them short distances, like to and from a bench or to and from an ATV. Pick a 1-7 or 1-8 twist barrel so you can stabilize heavier, longer projectiles such as the 77 grain bullets. Regarding quad rails, they tend to be great holders for rail covers. Sounds funny, but it's possible to have too much railed real estate. If you can find a rail or tube that features places to add smaller rail sections as needed, that's better. I hope that helps! Quoted:
I was thinking of going for a 18"-20" barrel for better accuracy. Accuracy has little to do with barrel length. Longer barrels give you an increase in velocity, and an increase in effective range. An 18" barrel is a great compromise. They come with either a 9" or 12" gas system. Either is fine, however some notice less perceived recoil from a 12" due to the longer dwell time the gas spends in the gas tube before engaging the bolt. Regarding barrel contour, I'd recommend a .750 government profile or a heavy barrel. The heavy barrel is a compromise between a gov't profile and bull barrel. You still get a stiff barrel for long range shooting without it being too heavy to lug around. The .936" bull barrels are way to heavy unless you only plan to carry them short distances, like to and from a bench or to and from an ATV. Pick a 1-7 or 1-8 twist barrel so you can stabilize heavier, longer projectiles such as the 77 grain bullets. Regarding quad rails, they tend to be great holders for rail covers. Sounds funny, but it's possible to have too much railed real estate. If you can find a rail or tube that features places to add smaller rail sections as needed, that's better. I hope that helps! Definately agree, the 18" is the way to go. FRom 16" to 18" you gain 200fps. 18" to 20" you gain 30fps. Powder burn is complete in a 5.56 around 18" so beyond that you run into the wall of diminishing returns. 1:8 is the best compromise, I think, also. I've shot 77gs from mine just fine, but it's great in the 55-70g range, Mine LOVES 69g SMKs. The MI SS Gen 2's are very nice. Just completed a pisol build with one and the modularity is great. The quad rail is hard on hands and adds a LOT of weight. The modular rails let you put them where you want and need them only, and feel a lot nicer. I also have the Diamondhead VRS-T rail. It's slightly heavier than the MI, but by far the nicest feeling FF handguard on the market. I roughed mine up and put a light spray of bedliner on it, and the surface looks just like my UBR and matches the Hogue grip very well as well. I was going for function though to add some non-slip grip to it, and I think it could not have come out better. |
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