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8/15/2011 6:43:51 PM EDT
I'm helping a buddy w/ an A2 build after he saw my rifle and fell in lust. He's looking to buy a complete upper w/ a BCG, charging handle, etc. What would the A2 aficionados of Arfcom choose and why? For reasons of his own; Colt IS NOT an option. What say the hive?
8/15/2011 8:33:30 PM EDT
[#1]
Well, mine's a Bushy post-ban Dissy. But I've yet to fire it. Del-Ton and J&T Distributing both have good reputations and sell kits with A2 uppers as an option.
8/16/2011 5:32:54 AM EDT
[#2]
Why not a Colt? If not restricted by a ban, its still a deal.

$1000 for a complete Colt sporter off gunbroker.. Easy to find at that price. Often for cheaper....Bought one for $799.



Vs.

$600 for a quality upper
$100- receiver
$75- stock
$80- parts kit

Still about $850...

The Colt will retain its value, vs. the parts gun.



8/16/2011 8:27:28 AM EDT
[#3]
I've done three out of BM parts for buddies with the exception of Colt BCG's and charging handles.  They all were comparable to my Colt/FN rifles and were great shooters.  Lot of excellent condition FN and Colt upper parts floating around right now for less coins than new BM parts  The BM parts I used were dirt cheap from seller getting out of the AR game and clearance $55 uppers.  Did buy one barrel from PK.  At the time Colt/FN parts were hard to find on a deal.  The Delton A-2 govt profile 1-9 kit for $475 is gonna be hard to beat.  Pick up a cheap A-2 lower and you're built for less than $600 with mag and sling.  Should be a real nice piece and hold it's value.  At the local funshows new Delton's are usually $629 plus tax and paperwork fee but haven't seen a govt profile build.
8/16/2011 8:45:18 AM EDT
[#4]
If Colt is NOT an option, then I would do an FN barrel with a Keyhole forge upper, or a complete Bushmaster 1/7 upper minus BCG and CH and go with BCM $149.00, or a Spikes BCG for $100.00. Charging handles are charging handles unless you start getting into the Gas Busters, BCM VLTR MODS 3/4, etc.


+1 Bushmaster  
+1 FN Build


8/16/2011 7:01:06 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Why not a Colt? If not restricted by a ban, its still a deal.

$1000 for a complete Colt sporter off gunbroker.. Easy to find at that price. Often for cheaper....Bought one for $799.



Vs.

$600 for a quality upper
$100- receiver
$75- stock
$80- parts kit

Still about $850...

The Colt will retain its value, vs. the parts gun.





OP is in California. Colt lower receivers are for the most part illegal to own in California. So in order to get a "Colt" rifle he would have to have the time and money to piece together a ton of Colt parts off the internet and then slap em all together onto some other company's receiver.
8/16/2011 8:28:24 PM EDT
[#6]
In Callyfornya you have to go by the "list". I'm thinking a Grizzly, Spikes Tactical or CMMG. I don't think they are banned.
8/16/2011 9:20:54 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
In Callyfornya you have to go by the "list". I'm thinking a Grizzly, Spikes Tactical or CMMG. I don't think they are banned.


The list of illegal AR-15s was written in 1992 and so, fortunately for us, is very outdated. It is extremely easy to get off-list lowers nowadays. This is the dreaded "LIST" of illegal lowers:

American Spirit
ASA Model

Armalite
AR 10 (all)
Golden Eagle
M15 (all)

Bushmaster
XM15 (all)

Colt
* AR-15 (all)
Law Enforcement (6920)
Match Target (all)
Sporter (all)

Dalphon
B.F.D.

DPMS
Panther (all)

Eagle Arms
EA-15 A2 H-BAR
EA-15 E1
M15 (all)

Frankford Arsenal
AR-15 (all)

Hesse Arms
HAR 15A2 (all)

Knights
RAS (all)
SR-15 (all)
SR-25 (all)

Les Baer
Ultimate AR (all)

Olympic Arms
AR-15
Car-97
PCR (all)

Ordnance, Inc.
AR-15

Palmetto
SGA (all)

Professional Ordnance, Inc.
Carbon 15 Pistol
Carbon 15 Rifle

PWA
All Models

Rock River Arms, Inc.
Car A2
Car A4 Flattop
LE Tactical Carbine
NM A2 - DCM Legal
Standard A-2
Standard A-4 Flattop

Wilson Combat
AR-15
8/16/2011 10:07:52 PM EDT
[#8]
If I had to build a CA. legal rifle, I would start out with a CMMG lower.

I would buy a matching black A2 upper off of the EE, or peice one together
with CMMG parts.

kz
8/19/2011 12:30:43 PM EDT
[#9]
white oak - there is no other.
8/19/2011 5:26:58 PM EDT
[#10]
Why not use a Colt or FN A2 barrel assembly? They're not hard to find, then get an A2 upper and BCG, mate it to a Cali legal lower, like JD Machine out of San Diego. They are great lowers I have two.
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