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Posted: 9/10/2011 3:34:50 PM EDT
| Well I finally got my SPR from LWRCi . It took so long because I was waiting for a BLACK rifle not BROWN . After reading on AR15.com for a couple months and PMing a couple people that own LWRC I was feeling pretty good about my decision . So my buddy was going to get one also until he googled LWRC SPR reviews and M4carbine.com came up with about 5 pages of posts that were horrible . Who knows if this is BS or not but these guys sounded like the real deal . Some of the posts seemed to be from very experienced people that have had some serious life or death situations . It seems they have been at WAR with these weapons and they failed . They went on to say what a horrible company LWRC is and how it always changes hands and who knows if it will be around in the future and what name it will have then . If some one else has read this stuff please help me out . It took me forever to save this much money up and now I am thinking maybe I should have gotten something else . ????????????? |
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No offense, but M4C hates on piston almost exclusively, and most of them are fucking posers that think they're hot shit because they took MagPul Dynamic Carbine, but most of them would shit their pants if they heard the loud snap-crack a bullet makes when it passes right by you. Of the ones shit-talking the LWRCs, most none of them have actually touched an LWRC, must less, fired one.
FWIW, I'm Active Duty Army Infantry, and have been to Iraq and Afghanistan. The DEA F.A.S.T. Teams we worked with carried LWRC M6A2s. Never saw one hiccup or jam. That's why I bought my LWRCs. Mine have been flawless. Workmanship is amazing, and there really isn't much more to be said. You get what you pay for. There is a reason why LWRCs are so expensive. |
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There is one guy over there that starts the majority of the crap about lwrci
I think he had one of the earlier rifles and couldnt get parts when he needed them. He really goes out of his way to bash LWRI at every turn . Its annoying as hell They just dont like piston rifles. I have two and love them! |
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Rest easy my friend. I have two LWRC rifles because I can afford them and my gun dealer told me they were the very best AR-15 on the market. I did my research and concluded the same. The people who bitch about LWRC cannot afford an LWRC. These are people who have bastardized homemade Ar-15s. They are jealous. These losers can only afford a lower end rifle so they take shots at the best piston AR-15 on the market because they cannot afford it.
You ever notice how many haters are out there who can become anonymous critics when typing on their computers in their parents basements? I drive a Ford F150. But I won't say that a Chevy truck isn't any good. Keep the gun and rest easy-LWRC builds the finest weapons in the market. |
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No offense, but M4C hates on piston almost exclusively, and most of them are fucking posers that think they're hot shit because they took MagPul Dynamic Carbine, but most of them would shit their pants if they heard the loud snap-crack a bullet makes when it passes right by you. Of the ones shit-talking the LWRCs, most none of them have actually touched an LWRC, must less, fired one. FWIW, I'm Active Duty Army Infantry, and have been to Iraq and Afghanistan. The DEA F.A.S.T. Teams we worked with carried LWRC M6A2s. Never saw one hiccup or jam. That's why I bought my LWRCs. Mine have been flawless. Workmanship is amazing, and there really isn't much more to be said. You get what you pay for. There is a reason why LWRCs are so expensive. This is full of win. +1 Agree with this post as well. Quoted:
The people who bitch about LWRC cannot afford an LWRC. I wouldn't necessarily agree with this but it might be a valid theory. I could afford an LWRC but I just don't want one at this time. These are people who have bastardized homemade Ar-15s. They are jealous. These losers can only afford a lower end rifle so they take shots at the best piston AR-15 on the market because they cannot afford it. Wouldn't say this is true either but again could be a valid theory. I don't make assumptions on people that I don't know. You ever notice how many haters are out there who can become anonymous critics when typing on their computers in their parents basements? This is very true. I drive a Ford F150. But I won't say that a Chevy truck isn't any good. Finally I thought I was the only one with this mentality. I drive Chevy but I would drive a Ford OR a Dodge. Nothing foreign though. Keep the gun and rest easy-LWRC builds the finest weapons in the market. Beating a dead horse here but best is all about perception. I will agree they build an outstanding rifle though. You would be hard pressed to find something better with everything you get on it. Aside from what I put in red I agree with this as well for the most part. OP listen to arfcommers. There is a reason why we stay away from m4c. If you want real facts and not bullshit come here. Most of the time you will get what you need. Outstanding bunch of folks here. |
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No offense, but M4C hates on piston almost exclusively, and most of them are fucking posers that think they're hot shit because they took MagPul Dynamic Carbine, but most of them would shit their pants if they heard the loud snap-crack a bullet makes when it passes right by you. Of the ones shit-talking the LWRCs, most none of them have actually touched an LWRC, must less, fired one. FWIW, I'm Active Duty Army Infantry, and have been to Iraq and Afghanistan. The DEA F.A.S.T. Teams we worked with carried LWRC M6A2s. Never saw one hiccup or jam. That's why I bought my LWRCs. Mine have been flawless. Workmanship is amazing, and there really isn't much more to be said. You get what you pay for. There is a reason why LWRCs are so expensive. This and this. M4C hates anything piston. If you look at what you get, LWRCs are not expensive...they come with most of the stuff you would add to a base rifle. |
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Thanks for all the replies . I will sleep a little easier now . But have any of you read what I,m talking about over there ? Can I link it or copy and paist it ? It really dosen't leave a LWRC owner feeling warm and fuzzy . I have read all of it and I am the guy usually defending the company. It gets old after a while, you get markM who gets it started, then you get mods that "used" to own LWRCIs, who "try" to clean things up, but in reality all of them are about as unbiased as Rush Limbaugh. You get to hear the same GD story about a "Poster" on this board was having trouble with his in Afghanistan, or "this guy I know had nothing but problems, sent it back three times, and it got scratched." You ask them for proof and they close the thread, my opinion is they are all full of shit. I have a theory why they REALLY hate LWRCI there. People on M4C fear LWRCi because they make pistons a viable option in an AR15. That board is driven by BCM, DD, and Noveske fanboys. All of them are fine rifles but none of them are pistons and none of them are cheap either. When you look at what you get from LWRCI you are actually getting a deal in comparison to those others. LWRCI probably makes the BEST barrels in the business, sorry Noveske lovers but I am getting .5 MOA out of a piston gun, that says something about the barrel. The rifle is OTB capable, it has a fit and finish that make you take notice when you hold one, and did I already say they are accurate? So when you purchase a weapon that makes their choice look...obsolete, their knee jerk reaction is to spread hate about the choice they should have made. They take it like you are basically shoving their nose into shit and telling them their choice was wrong when you talk up LWRCI. Enjoy your SPR, it is a VERY nice rifle that you should expect at least sub moa out of with the right ammo. This is coming from a former GD Marine, not some mall ninja faggot fan boy. If you want you could just sell me yours for 100 less than what you paid for it. I would be happy to pay you retail, but I just bought another LWRCI, unfortunately I won't get to play with it until March most likely. |
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Amen, Sleeper! This thread needs more M6-SPR in it.........oh, and OP.....pics are required..... 
Here's mine until you get pics of yours up- 
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6204/6134598248_6b5a7b8791_b.jpg Beautiful rifle! Yeah Socommxxx, if you are unsure about your purchase, I can take it off your hands. I believe that Sleeper396 said all there is to say. Some day the U.S. military may choose the piston rifle for grunts. But will they ever really choose a ferrari over a jeep? The entire world has been using piston operated Ak-47s and they do not fail or get gunked up and dirty from gas blowing debris back into the bolt. Even if the military never chooses a piston driven gun, I will still choose it. I have more time to admire it as a work of art: for the military it is simply a tool. The British put in a huge order for gas 308s from LMT. Maybe tradition, maybe less moving parts, maybe they just choose what they already know? I do not really care why. The military does many things that cause me to wonder why. I like ferraris better than jeeps. |
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Amen, Sleeper! This thread needs more M6-SPR in it.........oh, and OP.....pics are required.....
Here's mine until you get pics of yours up-
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6204/6134598248_6b5a7b8791_b.jpg Beautiful rifle! Yeah Socommxxx, if you are unsure about your purchase, I can take it off your hands. I believe that Sleeper396 said all there is to say. Some day the U.S. military may choose the piston rifle for grunts. But will they ever really choose a ferrari over a jeep? The entire world has been using piston operated Ak-47s and they do not fail or get gunked up and dirty from gas blowing debris back into the bolt. Even if the military never chooses a piston driven gun, I will still choose it. I have more time to admire it as a work of art: for the military it is simply a tool. The British put in a huge order for gas 308s from LMT. Maybe tradition, maybe less moving parts, maybe they just choose what they already know? I do not really care why. The military does many things that cause me to wonder why. I like ferraris better than jeeps. So my super duper adcor rifle is a lamborghini? 
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Like M4C, there are even members here on ARFCOM that will bash the piston system. That's one of the main reasons the Piston forum was added cause there was so much hate/debate in the Tech forums when the pistons were gaining popularity. I wanted to see for myself if the piston was a vaible option for me so, I bought one to form my own opinion, not basing it off of what anyone else thought.
I will agree that there is a guy over at M4C that goes out of his way to trash LWRC every time it's even mentioned. I never comment on anything he's says but, it's truly fucking annoying. I have owned my two LWRC's since 2008 and have never experienced a malfunction to date. Round count is somewhere around 7000 rounds collectively between the two of them. OP, form your own opinion once you get the rifle and decide whether or not it's up to your expectations. Overall, I actually like my LWRC's and I have no intention of ever selling them. |
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I purchased a LWRC SPR yesterday and thought you might like to know why. I had my choice down between a LaRue OBR and the LWRC SPR. I really do not have a dog in the piston and DI race. I just want a light accurate and most of all reliable rifle. I even had my FFL send in his license to LaRue to start the order process.
When I spoke to LaRue they would not put the heavy barrel on the PredatAR. They would not put an AAC adapter on the rifle instead of their flash hider even if I supplied it to them. No big deal but then again no big deal to meet the customers needs so his first stop won't be the gunsmith. Just to cover all bases I emailed LWRC to find out about accuracy and heat issues. They not only emailed me to call them but they called me to address my concerns. A guy named A.J. told me to expect sub MOA but they would not guarantee it because of the variables of shooter and ammo considerations. They said the Brits did not order the REPRs. He answered every question I could think of and the form questions as well. When A.J. found out I wanted the 14.7in with AAC adapter he made arrangements to customize a SPR for me. Even to the point of putting a Geissele trigger in it. Then he made arrangements to have the rifle dropped shipped to my FFL. I their rifle is as good as their customer service I will have a fine rifle indeed. It is supposed to arrive at my dealer in about 7 to 10 days. I'll let you know if it lives up to the customer service experience or not. By they way LaRue customer service in my opinion is one of the best their is.
I wish they had wallpaper to look at till the rifle arrives. |
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Some guys here and other sites have said the Brits have ordered a bunch of 308's. A.J. said the rumor was false.  The only thing I know the Brits had anything to do with is the UICW. I don't know if that was a competition or a contract though. I also know that the Brits just picked up LMT .308s with 6X ACOGs. Past that I didn't think they contracted LW for anything else. |
Rest easy, friend. I have a TON of rounds through my LWRC M6A3, nearly all suppressed. I now have an SPR, one of the first. I popped it's cherry doing the Larue Multigun, and have been shooting it regularly ever since. It and the A3 have both been flawless. LWRC is an excellent company, staffed by excellent people, and producing spectacular products. M4C is full of grumpy old farts and mall ninjas. They may not always be right, but they are never in doubt. You chose wisely.
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Rest easy, friend. I have a TON of rounds through my LWRC M6A3, nearly all suppressed. I now have an SPR, one of the first. I popped it's cherry doing the Larue Multigun, and have been shooting it regularly ever since. It and the A3 have both been flawless. LWRC is an excellent company, staffed by excellent people, and producing spectacular products. M4C is full of grumpy old farts and mall ninjas. They may not always be right, but they are never in doubt. You chose wisely. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg240/nineisfine2/SPR%20pics/DSC00382.jpg http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg240/nineisfine2/SPR%20pics/DSC00386.jpg Great looking rifle. Just admiring it.... |
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Quoted: Thanks for all the replies . I will sleep a little easier now . But have any of you read what I,m talking about over there ? Can I link it or copy and paist it ? It really dosen't leave a LWRC owner feeling warm and fuzzy . If your doubts start assailing you again, and you just don't want to risk it, I'll do you the service of taking your SPR off of your hands for proper disposal, if you like. LWRC pr0n! LWRC REPR 16" REPR in Magpul FDE Duracoat (shade altered slightly due to addition of a flattening agent added to the Duracoat) PRS Stock with a Cascadia QD sling socket Geissele SSA trigger YHM QD flash hider for a SS Phantom suppressor LaRue UDE FUG or Harris LM-S on an LT706 VTAC Mk 2 sling Horus Vision Hawk scope in an LT-104 mount       
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Amen, Sleeper! This thread needs more M6-SPR in it.........oh, and OP.....pics are required.....
Here's mine until you get pics of yours up-
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6204/6134598248_6b5a7b8791_b.jpg Beautiful rifle! Yeah Socommxxx, if you are unsure about your purchase, I can take it off your hands. I believe that Sleeper396 said all there is to say. Some day the U.S. military may choose the piston rifle for grunts. But will they ever really choose a ferrari over a jeep? The entire world has been using piston operated Ak-47s and they do not fail or get gunked up and dirty from gas blowing debris back into the bolt. Even if the military never chooses a piston driven gun, I will still choose it. I have more time to admire it as a work of art: for the military it is simply a tool. The British put in a huge order for gas 308s from LMT. Maybe tradition, maybe less moving parts, maybe they just choose what they already know? I do not really care why. The military does many things that cause me to wonder why. I like ferraris better than jeeps. Piston ARs and AKs have nothing in common. The brits chose the LMT MWS because it works, VERY WELL. It beat out the SR25 (due to admin issues from KAC), the HK417, the SCAR-H, and the Sabre XR-10. They found it more reliable and accurate than the competition, piston rifles included. That doesn't mean piston rifles don't have something to offer, but you can't bring it up, bag on it, and then say you don't care. OP, if I was looking at short stroke piston driven ARs, LWRC is the first, and really only place I'd go for one. HK416 aside, there's not been another SSP AR with the level of real world testing and acceptance. I'm not saying other quality options don't exist; the MR556 is basically the same rifle as the HK416, the LMT piston seems to occasionally pop up in photos w/ cool guys overseas, the budget minded consumer can find 85% of the rifle at 75% of the price with a wide spectrum of brands. However, as the field currently stands, LWRC is THE premier piston company, and I'd never hesitate to take them to war. I occasionally hangout at M4C, but they do hate pistons, and they have a very obvious marketing slant. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Amen, Sleeper! This thread needs more M6-SPR in it.........oh, and OP.....pics are required..... Here's mine until you get pics of yours up- http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6204/6134598248_6b5a7b8791_b.jpg Beautiful rifle! Yeah Socommxxx, if you are unsure about your purchase, I can take it off your hands. I believe that Sleeper396 said all there is to say. Some day the U.S. military may choose the piston rifle for grunts. But will they ever really choose a ferrari over a jeep? The entire world has been using piston operated Ak-47s and they do not fail or get gunked up and dirty from gas blowing debris back into the bolt. Even if the military never chooses a piston driven gun, I will still choose it. I have more time to admire it as a work of art: for the military it is simply a tool. The British put in a huge order for gas 308s from LMT. Maybe tradition, maybe less moving parts, maybe they just choose what they already know? I do not really care why. The military does many things that cause me to wonder why. I like ferraris better than jeeps. Piston ARs and AKs have nothing in common. The brits chose the LMT MWS because it works, VERY WELL. It beat out the SR25 (due to admin issues from KAC), the HK417, the SCAR-H, and the Sabre XR-10. They found it more reliable and accurate than the competition, piston rifles included. That doesn't mean piston rifles don't have something to offer, but you can't bring it up, bag on it, and then say you don't care. OP, if I was looking at short stroke piston driven ARs, LWRC is the first, and really only place I'd go for one. HK416 aside, there's not been another SSP AR with the level of real world testing and acceptance. I'm not saying other quality options don't exist; the MR556 is basically the same rifle as the HK416, the LMT piston seems to occasionally pop up in photos w/ cool guys overseas, the budget minded consumer can find 85% of the rifle at 75% of the price with a wide spectrum of brands. However, as the field currently stands, LWRC is THE premier piston company, and I'd never hesitate to take them to war. I occasionally hangout at M4C, but they do hate pistons, and they have a very obvious marketing slant. IIRC, and going off on the REPR tangent, LWRC didn't enter the British competition because it was fairly short notice and not very publisized, so they never even heard about it until it was a done deal. I'd have been interested to see what would have happened if they had entered the competition. |
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