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4/26/2010 7:03:36 PM EDT
Just installed my second Adam Arms piston kit this time on my dads Smith and Wesson M&P15 problem is with the adam arms bolt assembly in the firearm can not be cocked back it jams and as if the bolt gets stuck in the buffer tube, the stock one does not, i know its not the bolt assembly because when i put it in my rifle works perfect could it be something with the buffer tube?
4/26/2010 7:07:58 PM EDT
[#1]
When you remove the upper from the lower, does the bolt move freely inside the upper not rubbing against the charging handle?
4/26/2010 7:11:07 PM EDT
[#2]
yes i can put the upper on my personal lower and it cycles fine
4/26/2010 7:14:15 PM EDT
[#3]
what about your upper on your pop's lower?
4/26/2010 7:15:18 PM EDT
[#4]
NOpe my upper wo'nt cycle either on his lower
4/26/2010 7:19:41 PM EDT
[#5]
well, sounds like something on his lower is stopping the BCG from being pulled back.

Try this:

Take the BCG out of the upper and set it aside.

remove the buffer and buffer spring from your pop's lower.

see if the bcg will slide into the buffer tube
4/26/2010 7:21:56 PM EDT
[#6]
Sounds like S&W is using either a bolt carrier and/or a buffer tube that is not of standard dimension. Check to see if the Smith bolt carrier isn't really loose in your upper, compared to the original for that receiver.
4/26/2010 7:25:07 PM EDT
[#7]
with everything out the bolt assembly goes into the into the buffer tube no problem but when everything is connected it jams and gets stuck, and stays stuck, but if i knock out the take down pin the bolt flings closed like normal
4/26/2010 7:28:48 PM EDT
[#8]
hmmm... how far back can you pull the bolt back before it gets stuck?
4/26/2010 7:31:34 PM EDT
[#9]
not far at all, like maybe as soon as it clears the buffer tube threads
4/26/2010 7:34:45 PM EDT
[#10]
Alright then, sounds like you're describing an alignment problem between the upper receiver and the buffer tube. If that's the case, then the S&W BCG must still be undersized compared to another brand carrier, or it would get stuck, too. Mic the o.d. of the Smith carrier and compare that to one of another brand.
4/26/2010 8:01:35 PM EDT
[#11]
Question do you think because im using a mil spec buffer tube on my lower thats why it doesn't have a problem like maybe the S&W buffer tube isn't mil spec? because like i said with the adams arm piston in his upper work perfect on my lower
4/26/2010 8:10:51 PM EDT
[#12]
Mil-spec should only refer to the outside diameter of the buffer tube, not the inside.
4/26/2010 8:17:14 PM EDT
[#13]
Did you pull the gas rings off of your bolt?
4/26/2010 9:37:07 PM EDT
[#14]
This is the first post that I have done here on your guys site and Love it. Anyway I just did my first conversion with a Adams Arms and I noticed the same thing compared to the DI bolt carrier in my RRA. I also did the same checks as you guys suggested. What I found out was the hammer was pushing up against the Adam Arms Bolt carrier and causing it to drag slight and causing the bolt to get stuck a little, just a slight tap and it came right back down. I was a little worried, but after going to the range today it seemed to work flawlessly.
4/27/2010 2:00:49 PM EDT
[#15]
I ran into the same issue with one of my lowers. The anti tilt bump on the rear bottom of the AA bolt carrier seems to bind as it moves back into the extension. I swapped out the receiver extension with a different one and all was fine. I then reinstalled the original and the problem did not surface. It apparently is a slight  misalignment of or a  undersize extension tube. Try backing off the castle nut and retightening it.
4/27/2010 2:58:17 PM EDT
[#16]
Thanks all for the replies, i have the lower apart and after reassembly after dinner i will tell everyone how we stand.
4/27/2010 4:16:22 PM EDT
[#17]
hope everything works when you put it back together.
4/27/2010 6:35:45 PM EDT
[#18]
its the buffer tube, because after reinstalling everything same problem but when it was jammed i happened to lean on the tube while the rifle was sittng upsidedown on the bench on the top and it released the bolt from the jam, i have another buffer tube that im grabbing from my shop tomorrow that i will try im sure this baby will be working fine tomorrow finally.
4/29/2010 8:23:28 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
its the buffer tube, because after reinstalling everything same problem but when it was jammed i happened to lean on the tube while the rifle was sittng upsidedown on the bench on the top and it released the bolt from the jam, i have another buffer tube that im grabbing from my shop tomorrow that i will try im sure this baby will be working fine tomorrow finally.


After all these replies to your problem, you just going to leave us hangin'?

4/29/2010 9:55:20 PM EDT
[#20]
I am so sorry been super busy, i replaced the buffer tube and the rifle is cycling perfect, not sure why maybe slightly bent or just out of spec, im sending the stock buffer tube back to Smith and Wesson they said they will take care of it no problem, but the rifle is cycling like i said so i will just take the replacement and put it in the parts box for my next build.

Thank you everyone for the help and suggestions

Alex
4/29/2010 11:59:26 PM EDT
[#21]
Glad you found and fixed the problem.
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