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6/20/2014 12:09:49 PM EDT
I'm not sure whether this belongs here in the Retro Forum or over in the A2 Forum, but I am wanting to know if the A2 butt plate it is currently wearing is correct or if it should have an A1. The seller said it was a takeoff from a Sporter.

Picked it up off a Facebook Gun Trader page as pictured for a decent price. Only thing I'm not too crazy about it is there is the remnants of what used to be a Punisher sticker on it. It's barely noticeable in the picture.

6/20/2014 1:38:10 PM EDT
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No idea, but I am jealous.
6/20/2014 1:44:03 PM EDT
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It's a Canadian Colt C7 stock, kinda rare here in the states, I've never even seen one. They go on 20" government profile A2 barreled Canadian C7 rifles, with C7 uppers on A2 lowers, A2 round HG's, PG, delta ring and that Colt CS stock. They really belong in the A2 forum even though it has the C7 upper.

Edited to Add: You did very well picking that stock assembly up for $80.00
6/20/2014 1:55:59 PM EDT
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It's a Canadian Colt C7 stock, kinda rare here in the states, I've never even seen one. They go on 20" government profile A2 barreled Canadian C7 rifles, with C7 uppers on A2 lowers, A2 round HG's, PG, delta ring and that Colt CS stock. They really belong in the A2 forum even though it has the C7 upper.

Edited to Add: You did very well picking that stock assembly up for $80.00
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they were also found on early colt sporter lightweight A2s.
6/20/2014 2:40:55 PM EDT
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A-2 buttplate should be correct.  Nice score.  It works fine in retro forum for me. Thanks for sharing.  Don't see those every day like type D's and E's. Not like you don't know how to get rid of punisher sticker remnants.  What's the popular term today, patina!
6/20/2014 4:47:48 PM EDT
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It's a Canadian Colt C7 stock, kinda rare here in the states, I've never even seen one. They go on 20" government profile A2 barreled Canadian C7 rifles, with C7 uppers on A2 lowers, A2 round HG's, PG, delta ring and that Colt CS stock. They really belong in the A2 forum even though it has the C7 upper.

Edited to Add: You did very well picking that stock assembly up for $80.00
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Thanks for the info, & I really wasn't sure if it should have been here or A2.

I do have a C7 style rifle, as you described (except for Hogue grip & Magpul trigger guard), that I can slap this on.
6/20/2014 9:17:09 PM EDT
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Thanks for the info, & I really wasn't sure if it should have been here or A2.

I do have a C7 style rifle, as you described (except for Hogue grip & Magpul trigger guard), that I can slap this on.
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It's a Canadian Colt C7 stock, kinda rare here in the states, I've never even seen one. They go on 20" government profile A2 barreled Canadian C7 rifles, with C7 uppers on A2 lowers, A2 round HG's, PG, delta ring and that Colt CS stock. They really belong in the A2 forum even though it has the C7 upper.

Edited to Add: You did very well picking that stock assembly up for $80.00


Thanks for the info, & I really wasn't sure if it should have been here or A2.

I do have a C7 style rifle, as you described (except for Hogue grip & Magpul trigger guard), that I can slap this on.


Good idea, Take a look at the pictures of John Thomas'  C7 clone in the A2 section, he has a CS stock on his and a Colt Canada rollmark with the maple leaf and french writing on a 80% lower. My favorite c7 clone to date and mine is very nice as well. Just need to get me one of those CS stocks someday to complete it with authentic parts.
6/21/2014 10:21:24 AM EDT
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I got a whole box of them from a estate sale. CS is a A2, but it is A1 length. Which makes it 5/8" shorter than a A1. Yes they have the A2 butt plate.
6/21/2014 6:41:08 PM EDT
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Excellent score. I picked up this one not too long ago for a bit more than $80, but I've been looking for a while and it's in mint condition. Probably pulled off a new Sporter Lightweight and stuck in a box.







 
6/21/2014 7:32:37 PM EDT
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any for sale?
6/21/2014 9:29:06 PM EDT
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Good idea, Take a look at the pictures of John Thomas'  C7 clone in the A2 section, he has a CS stock on his and a Colt Canada rollmark with the maple leaf and french writing on a 80% lower. My favorite c7 clone to date and mine is very nice as well. Just need to get me one of those CS stocks someday to complete it with authentic parts.
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It's a Canadian Colt C7 stock, kinda rare here in the states, I've never even seen one. They go on 20" government profile A2 barreled Canadian C7 rifles, with C7 uppers on A2 lowers, A2 round HG's, PG, delta ring and that Colt CS stock. They really belong in the A2 forum even though it has the C7 upper.

Edited to Add: You did very well picking that stock assembly up for $80.00


Thanks for the info, & I really wasn't sure if it should have been here or A2.

I do have a C7 style rifle, as you described (except for Hogue grip & Magpul trigger guard), that I can slap this on.


Good idea, Take a look at the pictures of John Thomas'  C7 clone in the A2 section, he has a CS stock on his and a Colt Canada rollmark with the maple leaf and french writing on a 80% lower. My favorite c7 clone to date and mine is very nice as well. Just need to get me one of those CS stocks someday to complete it with authentic parts.


My C7 clone is just a blemished Armalite lower, Colt upper receiver, & a FNMI Govt. profile barrel. A "close enough" copy, nothing in great detail like his rifles.
6/22/2014 1:22:47 AM EDT
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I got a whole box of them from a estate sale. CS is a A2, but it is A1 length. Which makes it 5/8" shorter than a A1. Yes they have the A2 butt plate.
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So they are basically a Type E stock with an A2 buttplate, kind of a transitional style buttstock between the Type E and A2.
6/22/2014 4:57:53 AM EDT
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I got a whole box of them from a estate sale. CS is a A2, but it is A1 length. Which makes it 5/8" shorter than a A1. Yes they have the A2 butt plate.





So they are basically a Type E stock with an A2 buttplate, kind of a transitional style buttstock between the Type E and A2.







A1 length, but A2 materials, which are allegedly stronger. I don't plan on butt stroking anyone in the near future, but it's nice to know the option is there.














Figure 7-13. Butt stroke to the head.









Figure 7-14. Butt stroke to the groin.




 


 
6/22/2014 7:29:57 AM EDT
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I've actually grabbed one of my retros to see how it felt to swing it buttstock first and I guarantee after you hit a human combatant in the head, the rifle wouldn't function again until it was rebuilt.
6/22/2014 8:52:37 AM EDT
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Whole lotta people have been killed with a buttstock stroke since the invent of the gun.  I also wouldn't advise with USGI military AR stock unless last resort.  Was a little different in the fix bayonet days and wooden stocks but even they also got broken in many instances.  A couple 1911's or Baretta's in pocket might be a better alternative but thanks for sharing how to.  I sure wouldn't try it with CS,  type C or earlier simply due to current replacement value.  Probably explains how all the import demills stocks got trashed.
6/22/2014 12:33:26 PM EDT
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It's not just the strength of the buttstock itself at issue, but the strength of the receiver extension as well. I wouldn't want to hit anyone with the butt of an AR unless it was in a linear fashion. Still, you do what you gotta do eh? I wonder if AR-18 hinges ever got broken that way? They aren't the strongest.
6/22/2014 7:03:37 PM EDT
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Many years ago I ordered a Colt A1 butt stock from SAW (Specialized Armament Warehouse).  What I received was an A1 length A2 butt stock without the CS marking.  Haven't ever seen one since.  Were any made without the CS marking?
6/22/2014 7:06:35 PM EDT
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Many years ago I ordered a Colt A1 butt stock from SAW (Specialized Armament Warehouse).  What I received was an A1 length A2 butt stock without the CS marking.  Haven't ever seen one since.  Were any made without the CS marking?
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someone here found a few a while back like that.  haven't seen any more details around those.  post pics if you have some.
6/22/2014 9:33:19 PM EDT
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someone here found a few a while back like that.  haven't seen any more details around those.  post pics if you have some.
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Many years ago I ordered a Colt A1 butt stock from SAW (Specialized Armament Warehouse).  What I received was an A1 length A2 butt stock without the CS marking.  Haven't ever seen one since.  Were any made without the CS marking?


someone here found a few a while back like that.  haven't seen any more details around those.  post pics if you have some.



I have one of those. It looks just like a CS without the "CS"...

AND SOME HOW, I GOT A C7 UPPER or 2, and I have another lonely A2 barrel ....you guys are......................
6/23/2014 7:31:22 AM EDT
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6/28/2014 9:09:54 AM EDT
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I frankly don't understand why the US military didn't issue these along with the A2 length as the Canadian military did. It seems like a no-brainer. The A2 just does not fit me - the A1 fits me perfectly.
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