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Posted: 3/19/2012 5:32:39 PM EDT
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Guys,
What is the best book out there that shows the retro models to help in building ? Specifically looking at XM177 style models. Thanks in advance. Kevin |
| The Black Rifle, M16 retrospective is the one I see referenced most. I started a thread on this, maybe a month or two ago? Some other publications were cited. I also bought a book at Jhud's recommendation called, simply, the m16. I believe the author is Jean Huon. It has some interesting information. I am also looking for another good source for retros to compliment these two fine books. |
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It's expensive, but very much worth it: http://www.amazon.com/The-Black-Rifle-Retrospective-Military/dp/0889351155/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332224404&sr=8-1
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old thread here:
http://209.251.48.101/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=123&t=283657 |
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About the Masami Tokoi M16 and Stoner Rifles book, I bought my copy from Amazon-Japan. I had been looking here in the US for a copy and the only ones I ever found were $150 plus. One appeared a few months ago on Gunbroker that went for about $110, which was cheap as far as I could tell. A friend in Japan saw that I was looking for a copy and directed me to Amazon-Japan. I bought a like new copy for about $80 shipped. Shipping was by air and took about a week. All things considered, it was an easy transaction. I noticed they still have some listed starting at about 5800 yen, which translates to about $74. Here is a link, which you may have to translate to English. Also, you may have to cut and paste––
http://www.amazon.co.jp/M16-%E3%82%B9%E3%83%88%E3%83%BC%E3%83%8A%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E3%83%BB%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%95%E3%83%AB-MB-%E5%BA%8A%E4%BA%95-%E9%9B%85%E7%BE%8E/dp/4499205670/ref=pd_rhf_ee_p_t_1 As to an English translation of the book, I am not aware of one. By the way, if you have any interest in AK's, his book on AK's is great–– I think better than the M16 book. Quoted:
this book is highly regarded as well with really nice pics: M16 & Stoner’s Rifle book by Masami Tokoi however most copies are in japanese or chinese and has been out of print since 91. |
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cool i'll definitely check it out.
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About the Masami Tokoi M16 and Stoner Rifles book, I bought my copy from Amazon-Japan. I had been looking here in the US for a copy and the only ones I ever found were $150 plus. One appeared a few months ago on Gunbroker that went for about $110, which was cheap as far as I could tell. A friend in Japan saw that I was looking for a copy and directed me to Amazon-Japan. I bought a like new copy for about $80 shipped. Shipping was by air and took about a week. All things considered, it was an easy transaction. I noticed they still have some listed starting at about 5800 yen, which translates to about $74. Here is a link, which you may have to translate to English. Also, you may have to cut and paste–– http://www.amazon.co.jp/M16-%E3%82%B9%E3%83%88%E3%83%BC%E3%83%8A%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E3%83%BB%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%95%E3%83%AB-MB-%E5%BA%8A%E4%BA%95-%E9%9B%85%E7%BE%8E/dp/4499205670/ref=pd_rhf_ee_p_t_1 As to an English translation of the book, I am not aware of one. By the way, if you have any interest in AK's, his book on AK's is great–– I think better than the M16 book. Quoted:
this book is highly regarded as well with really nice pics: M16 & Stoner’s Rifle book by Masami Tokoi however most copies are in japanese or chinese and has been out of print since 91. |
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Lionel,
Let us know how you make out on the Tokoi book. Bill M. Quoted:
cool i'll definitely check it out. Quoted:
About the Masami Tokoi M16 and Stoner Rifles book, I bought my copy from Amazon-Japan. I had been looking here in the US for a copy and the only ones I ever found were $150 plus. One appeared a few months ago on Gunbroker that went for about $110, which was cheap as far as I could tell. A friend in Japan saw that I was looking for a copy and directed me to Amazon-Japan. I bought a like new copy for about $80 shipped. Shipping was by air and took about a week. All things considered, it was an easy transaction. I noticed they still have some listed starting at about 5800 yen, which translates to about $74. Here is a link, which you may have to translate to English. Also, you may have to cut and paste–– http://www.amazon.co.jp/M16-%E3%82%B9%E3%83%88%E3%83%BC%E3%83%8A%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E3%83%BB%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%95%E3%83%AB-MB-%E5%BA%8A%E4%BA%95-%E9%9B%85%E7%BE%8E/dp/4499205670/ref=pd_rhf_ee_p_t_1 As to an English translation of the book, I am not aware of one. By the way, if you have any interest in AK's, his book on AK's is great–– I think better than the M16 book. Quoted:
this book is highly regarded as well with really nice pics: M16 & Stoner’s Rifle book by Masami TokoiN however most copies are in japanese or chinese and has been out of print since 91. |
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they wouldn't allow a US shipping address but i sent a note to the seller.
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Lionel, Let us know how you make out on the Tokoi book. Bill M. Quoted:
cool i'll definitely check it out. Quoted:
About the Masami Tokoi M16 and Stoner Rifles book, I bought my copy from Amazon-Japan. I had been looking here in the US for a copy and the only ones I ever found were $150 plus. One appeared a few months ago on Gunbroker that went for about $110, which was cheap as far as I could tell. A friend in Japan saw that I was looking for a copy and directed me to Amazon-Japan. I bought a like new copy for about $80 shipped. Shipping was by air and took about a week. All things considered, it was an easy transaction. I noticed they still have some listed starting at about 5800 yen, which translates to about $74. Here is a link, which you may have to translate to English. Also, you may have to cut and paste–– http://www.amazon.co.jp/M16-%E3%82%B9%E3%83%88%E3%83%BC%E3%83%8A%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E3%83%BB%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%95%E3%83%AB-MB-%E5%BA%8A%E4%BA%95-%E9%9B%85%E7%BE%8E/dp/4499205670/ref=pd_rhf_ee_p_t_1 As to an English translation of the book, I am not aware of one. By the way, if you have any interest in AK's, his book on AK's is great–– I think better than the M16 book. Quoted:
this book is highly regarded as well with really nice pics: M16 & Stoner’s Rifle book by Masami TokoiN however most copies are in japanese or chinese and has been out of print since 91. |
| Jean Huon's M16 book is unfortunately pretty poorly translated. As a result some of the pictures seem to be mislabeled, and some of the technical language ends up getting garbled. However as a result I was able to find a copy for under $3 online, so might be worth it anyway. The World’s Assault Rifles by Thomas Nelson has some very good AR pics/info (plus a whole lot of other rifles, many rare) and is about $50 new. |
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