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8/9/2011 8:04:07 PM EDT
Hi i'm looking to build a retro of my dad's m16 he had in vietnam (he was in the army). He said it had black furniture and no forward assist and a 3 Prong Flash Suppressor. Did the 601 come with only green or brown furniture? I'm guessing he had a 602.
Thanks Keith
8/9/2011 8:21:51 PM EDT
[#1]
When was he there?  601/602 were phased out pretty quickly.  Does he have any old pics?  That would be the easiest way to determine what he had.  602 with correct parts is a hard build even with luck as many of us here are finding out.  Welcome to retroland and good luck with your build.  Ask him if it had a chrome BCG?  That should be easy to remember even after 40 plus years.
8/9/2011 8:26:28 PM EDT
[#2]
My guess is it was a 604.  There were a lot more 604's than 602's...
8/9/2011 8:38:12 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
My guess is it was a 604.  There were a lot more 604's than 602's...


I thought only the chair force used the 604's
8/9/2011 10:09:26 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
My guess is it was a 604.  There were a lot more 604's than 602's...


Yep, my guess is a 604 upper as well..

His could of had a slab side, partial fence or A1 lower.  Here's some examples of the various lowers and flashiders...


Slab side with duckbill flashider:






Partial Fence with improved 3 prong & grenade spring:





Full Fence with A1 flashider


8/10/2011 8:38:41 AM EDT
[#5]
Nice lot ARGuy.  Kinda into dimple pins and waffle mags?
8/10/2011 10:48:50 AM EDT
[#6]
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Nice lot ARGuy.  Kinda into dimple pins and waffle mags?


Isn't everyone??
8/10/2011 11:37:46 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Quoted:
My guess is it was a 604.  There were a lot more 604's than 602's...


I thought only the chair force used the 604's


Na, the Squids used them too.  There's a couple of pics of Squids with 604s on Retroblackrifle.
8/10/2011 2:20:41 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
When was he there?  601/602 were phased out pretty quickly.  Does he have any old pics?  That would be the easiest way to determine what he had.  602 with correct parts is a hard build even with luck as many of us here are finding out.  Welcome to retroland and good luck with your build.  Ask him if it had a chrome BCG?  That should be easy to remember even after 40 plus years.


He was there from 67 to 68 and said the bcg was black.
8/10/2011 2:31:35 PM EDT
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Quoted:
Quoted:
When was he there?  601/602 were phased out pretty quickly.  Does he have any old pics?  That would be the easiest way to determine what he had.  602 with correct parts is a hard build even with luck as many of us here are finding out.  Welcome to retroland and good luck with your build.  Ask him if it had a chrome BCG?  That should be easy to remember even after 40 plus years.


He was there from 67 to 68 and said the bcg was black.

Both a 601 and 602 would have had full chromed bolt carrier groups, so I'm leaning towards saying that it was an early, transitional 604 due to the 3-prong suppressor. It is possible, however, that his rifle could have been a 601 or 602 with updated black furniture and a parkerized carrier or BCG.
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