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5/22/2011 12:02:23 PM EDT
Was at the local hobby store looking for airbrush paint, when out of the corner of my eye I catch this beauty!! I was bummed when I saw they had other models available, but not in stock! If your a model builder like I am, you can see all the retro possibilities. I am already thinking up way's to modify this kit, to at least be a little more realistic. A few errors you can see, but easily changed when building the kit. The selector markings on the right side are easily covered. The painting on the box cover shows a delta ring instead of a flat slip ring. I was surprised to see in the box a flat slip ring instead! Whats cool about these is the racks all fit together! I am going to try to modify it so you can pull the bolt back, and maybe even eject the mag! We will see!



5/22/2011 12:17:03 PM EDT
[#1]
that's kinda' neat

....looks like you may have to send the (what appears to be an) A2 port door to Heatnbeat for an early conversion job
5/22/2011 12:22:14 PM EDT
[#2]
looks like it comes with lower too.... did you have to go through your ffl to get it :)
5/22/2011 12:27:27 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
looks like it comes with lower too.... did you have to go through your ffl to get it :)


no....because he doesn't live in Kalifornia, or New Gersey
5/22/2011 12:48:55 PM EDT
[#4]
watch it when you're baking the norrel's
5/22/2011 6:10:43 PM EDT
[#5]
Nice find. Thank you for the pictures.



I remember full-size gun model kits at the hobby shop around 1973 (?).



I remember them being out of my price range, but cool.  Japanese, I think.
5/22/2011 6:43:36 PM EDT
[#6]
Very, very neat!
5/22/2011 6:48:28 PM EDT
[#7]
That's pretty cool! Is it made so the stock telescopes, the trigger moves, handguards remove, etc.?

Edit to add: 50 pieces isn't a hell of a lot less than the real thing if you leave out the springs and roll pins.
5/22/2011 6:49:24 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
I remember full-size gun model kits at the hobby shop around 1973 (?).


Same here. I actually built several of them: a Smith revolver, a P-38, a Nambu, and a .45 that actually used the same "9mm" rounds of the P-38. The company, LS, did make an M16 kit as well and quite a few others. The guns had moving parts but were too flimsy for sustained handling. (I may still have parts of an AK around somewhere).

Replica guns are still big in Japan, but LS (which also made other plastic models, like planes and ships) went tango uniform some time in the eighties. Realistic gun models were attacked legislatively in the US at about the same time, by (as you'd expect) the same politicians who are against guns in general. Part of delegitimizing the gun culture.

This is some guy's Nambu build... his came out better than mine. Probably because he worked harder!

http://www.missing-lynx.com/gallery/other/nabuhl_1.html

"I played with war toys when I was a kid, but it never influenced me."
5/22/2011 7:00:35 PM EDT
[#9]
I had a full scale Colt Python back in the 80s.  I wanted the M16 even before I realized I was a retrohead.



The Python even came with plastic cartridges you assembled and could load into the cylinder.



While it's too bad they don't still make those kits, now I have some of the real things.  No Colt Python though.



David
5/23/2011 6:57:58 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
IWhile it's too bad they don't still make those kits, now I have some of the real things.  


But, think of the children. I still think fondly of my toy Thompson SMG.

5/23/2011 7:42:26 AM EDT
[#11]
I built one of the Luger & M16A1 models when I was a kid.(late 70s)
The M16A1 started me down a dark path towards RBRD.
Unfortunately I have no idea what happened to it.
Garage sale fodder or maybe it is still up in my Dad's attic.
I'll have to venture a look up there next time I'm back home.
5/23/2011 9:12:12 AM EDT
[#12]
After looking at TRBR site for info on what features to keep or change. I noticed the delta ring is authentic for the E2. I really hope y'all don't think model building is just for kids! I am in my mid forties, and just started back in to the hobby! I have found it actually lowers my blood pressure! I joined a local model building club, and aside from member children, the youngest is in his mid thirties! I am also working on highly detailed 1/6 ejection seat/interior cock pit for the F104, and F16 block 20! As for real deal guns? I have a safe full of real EBR's, half of them retro AR's, and am getting kind of bored with them! I think it's a fantastic challenge to see how far I can modify this XM model to be more realistic!
5/23/2011 9:34:40 AM EDT
[#13]
I do models from time to time.  Did the NASCAR and NHRA thing for a while but the sponsors and paint change quite often making it hard to keep up.  Have a bunch of kits still in the box but mostly H-D motorcycles and racing cars.
Retroangles?
All the hobby shops have been closed in my area for some time.  I used to use a lot of Japanese model paint or testors if available but can't find it locally and the craft stores don't even have all the basic testors colors but they only have some pretty high dollar stuff.  Any good websites for modeling supplies especially paint.  Cool model kit you have there also.
5/23/2011 10:05:00 AM EDT
[#14]
Oooh, they have an M16A1 too:
M16A1
I wonder if I could turn one into a 601.
I could send the furniture to John Thomas...hmmmm...


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5/24/2011 6:17:57 AM EDT
[#15]
I used to do a lot more scale modelling, though I still kind of follow it.  Moving and deployments made keeping up with it kind of difficult, though.  Trumpeter has been coming out with a lot of interesting stuff lately.  My focus was a lot of WWII aviation, particularly Luftwaffe stuff, love those mottled paint schemes.

~Augee
5/24/2011 10:48:05 AM EDT
[#16]
Last model rifle I did was an Ottoman Empire clone.  Wonder if it's still in dad's attic.  I'm guessing 40 years ago now. Did a couple real flintlock pistol kits as a young teen before I found girls but sold them to finance a little back seat romance.  Flintlocks were never real user friendly to me anyway.  Always seemed to rain when I took them out.  They were different when they worked.  Had a little delay in them.  Right time of year to paint models wrong time to build them.  For $16 I might have to buy one of those A-1 kits anyway.  Shouldn't be too hard to detail and assemble.  Rack number and all.
5/24/2011 5:24:58 PM EDT
[#17]
I found a 1:1 scale Japanese model of an XM16 at a local surplus store that was assembled and in need of TLC (cracked stock and lower receiver at front takedown pin and receiver extension) and got it for 20-25 dollars.
  It had the correct receiver contours and had a birdcage suppressor instead of the three prong, as well as a 30 round reproduction mag.   Several years down the road and In a fit of generosity I lent it to a fellow gun owner and got half of it back (the lower, and minus the small parts that I had bagged when disassembling it for repair and rebuild).  I am still waiting for the other half and the parts (about 5 years later), but think that they got thrown.  My only comfort is having a real reproduction of it now.
5/24/2011 6:15:12 PM EDT
[#18]
I had the 1:1 XM177E2 and later the plug fire cap Uzi, which I carried on an Army Reserve drill back in 86.



The XM177E2 was fragile, stock retracted but was prone to splitting same for the 30rd magazine if loaded with too many plastic dummy rounds.



The Uzi was pretty cool, as long as I could  find the plug fire casings after firing.  At $5 each at the time, plus the kit only came with 5 of them.
5/24/2011 6:39:50 PM EDT
[#19]
Here's another one for you - and a 601 to boot .
5/24/2011 11:25:44 PM EDT
[#20]


Thats the M16A1! I have it on order, should be in by weeks end! Like cornish said above it can be modded to look like a 601! The bakelite look, can be done by anyone, as It is done in layers! The trick is getting the right color combination, and I am sure quite a bit of practice at the texture! I know the member that does the repro stocks does a fantastic job! I wonder if he would share what colors he uses?

Edited to add: I have already modified a retractable metal bolt carrier and CH for this model! I will post pics when it is finished!!
5/25/2011 4:02:05 AM EDT
[#21]
I built a model 1873 Winchester in the early 60s, then got the metal replica bug.  Nakata in Japan was cranking them out like crazy.  I had a P-38 (that I put real German brown bakelite grips on), a 1922 Browning, a 2 1/2" S&W Model 19, and a P-35 Hi-power (Inglis copy) with a Man From Uncle style detachable stock. That Browning was so realistic, it fooled a cop I knew in the late 60s, until he really looked closely at it.  Interesting thing was that the stock and magazines (with minor modifications) actually fit an Inglis Browning I got in the mid-80s.  I shot it a lot with the stock on it in the PD range where I was a rangemaster.  I had an attache case, foam lined, that held the pistol, stock, (6)22 round magazines. and two boxes of ammo and a holster under the false bottom.  Wish I still had that one.
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