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Posted: 2/2/2010 3:45:27 PM EDT
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This may have been posted before or you all may know about it, but I stumble upon this website today and just wanted to share.
I thought some of the items were interesting. Hayes Otoupalik |
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Long time ago he offered "excellent condition" M1907 leather slings in the shotgun news .I called to confirm condition and price.$25.00 each.He verbally said they were excellent as well. I ordered 10 of them.When they arrived they were so weak,worn,cracked that they would NOT even hold the weight of a rifle,one arrived with the bottom strap split in two.When I called to say I was not happy and was gonna retrun them for refund it became a battle.All of a sudden the slings were described as good condition for "50 year old leather" and you have to expect some imperfections..I sent them back requestiong refund,,took over 6 months including calls to betterbusiness bureau, postmaster generals office,his state attorney generals offce.Finally got refund.
Then on 2 other occasions,1st, a member of our living history group had a WW2 M3 paratrooper ammo cart.He had a local tent maker fabricate a canvas cover to proper specs,but he had to buy a lot of 15- or 20 of them for the fabricater to make them.He sold a couple off to friends,then the balance sold to Hayes.Hayes then advertized them as ORIGINAL WW2 and offered them for $600 each. 2nd occasion,A man I know and dealt with had reproduced near perfect copies of the machine gun brackets for the same ammo carts ^,Hayes bought a few sets and again advertized them as ORIGINAL WW2 and for big $. He never said "made like the originals,,he said ORIGINAL for both above items. If anyone doubts this info,I can put you in touch with Mr Dorney (canvas covers) and Mr Snyder (brackets) to confirm this info. |
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Long time ago he offered "excellent condition" M1907 leather slings in the shotgun news .I called to confirm condition and price.$25.00 each.He verbally said they were excellent as well. I ordered 10 of them.When they arrived they were so weak,worn,cracked that they would NOT even hold the weight of a rifle,one arrived with the bottom strap split in two.When I called to say I was not happy and was gonna retrun them for refund it became a battle.All of a sudden the slings were described as good condition for "50 year old leather" and you have to expect some imperfections..I sent them back requestiong refund,,took over 6 months including calls to betterbusiness bureau, postmaster generals office,his state attorney generals offce.Finally got refund. Then on 2 other occasions,1st, a member of our living history group had a WW2 M3 paratrooper ammo cart.He had a local tent maker fabricate a canvas cover to proper specs,but he had to buy a lot of 15- or 20 of them for the fabricater to make them.He sold a couple off to friends,then the balance sold to Hayes.Hayes then advertized them as ORIGINAL WW2 and offered them for $600 each. 2nd occasion,A man I know and dealt with had reproduced near perfect copies of the machine gun brackets for the same ammo carts ^,Hayes bought a few sets and again advertized them as ORIGINAL WW2 and for big $. He never said "made like the originals,,he said ORIGINAL for both above items. If anyone doubts this info,I can put you in touch with Mr Dorney (canvas covers) and Mr Snyder (brackets) to confirm this info. Wow. I beleive you. (Hope I didn't come off as not believing you initially). I just wanted a bit of detail. That's terrible. I'll have to find a Mitchell Helmet cover elsewhere. |
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Cal,I'm not saying he does'nt have good stuff,,In fact years back when WW2 tank crew leather helmets were "unobtanium" he went to Mexico and bought hundreds that the US had supplied to Mexico way back when,Hayes was the only guy in town who had them for a long time.They were originals.
I just relayed my personal experience with him and the experience 2 friends of mine had in dealings with him.I don't trust him,and don't like the way I was treated,and how he WILL misrepresent items from time to time.If you deal with him,I do hope you have a better experience then I did.I stay away because I can find ANYTHING he has, anytime I want,from folks I trust.I've been collecting WW2 stuff since about 1968 or so,,I have alot of contacts in this field. PS,I'm only 49,but have collected seriously since I was 8-10. |
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Cal,I'm not saying he does'nt have good stuff,,In fact years back when WW2 tank crew leather helmets were "unobtanium" he went to Mexico and bought hundreds that the US had supplied to Mexico way back when,Hayes was the only guy in town who had them for a long time.They were originals. I just relayed my personal experience with him and the experience 2 friends of mine had in dealings with him.I don't trust him,and don't like the way I was treated,and how he WILL misrepresent items from time to time.If you deal with him,I do hope you have a better experience then I did.I stay away because I can find ANYTHING he has, anytime I want,from folks I trust.I've been collecting WW2 stuff since about 1968 or so,,I have alot of contacts in this field. PS,I'm only 49,but have collected seriously since I was 8-10. I'm 50 and started collecting in same time frame as you, perhaps even earlier which is proof that Militaria is as evil as RBRD (Retro black rifle disease)... |
| Cal,do you remember what got you into collecting? I do.I was 8 yrs old,my Dad was sitting in the living room with my Great Great Grandfathers (he was a Major General for the north during the Civil War) 1860 army Colt revolver.He was actually soaking it with WD 40 and trying to remove original lead bullets that were still in it.He also had a cigar box on the table that had nick-nacks.Of course I had to go thru it all.In the box were a couple of Colt .45 bullets,a couple of military patches and such.I asked what the patches were and that's when I found out my Dad was a WW2 veteran.The patches were his shoulder insignia unit patches.US 29th Infantry Division. He was a combat medic.Well,as all sons look up to their Dad,at that moment in my life,my Dad became more then just my hero.He's been gone since 1993,I have the revolver and a couple of the lead slugs along with other items from the General.My Dad was the historian in the family..I have his WW2 uniform and Kar98K he brought home,and alot of very good memories of him.I always wanted to tape record an interview with him about his WW2 experiences,but as typical with WW2 vets,he NEVER want to talk. When I do the living history displays I mention in posts,I do a 29th ID impression.This year is the 1st time I did Nam,but only 1 day out of the 2 at our Large display at Pres. FD Roosevelts mansion/library.. God Bless our vets,,I miss ya Dad!! 29,Let's Go |
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I started with this:
My great-uncle's flying jacket from WWII 
It was given to me when I was 7. I wore it to elementary school on cold days. The Army Air Force seal is no longer visible but I think it was printed on IIRC. and this: My dad's jacket from the Army(1958-1960s) 
I got it about the same time as my uncle's jacket, but had to wait to grow into it. I "stormed" the beaches of Normandy with my friends wearing it many times when I was young. and this: Nazi Podium banner 
Given to me when I was about 10. World War II split my family like the Civil War did many Americans. I had family on both sides. When my Nazi banner was given to me my mother begged me to throw it away as she hated the Nazis, and the part of the family that fought for them. Instead I put it away never to be seen by her or anyone else again. I've never unfolded it nor taken a picture of it until today.(30+ years later) I have a lot of other Nazi stuff given to me by family members. I'll have to get it out and photograph it sometime. It might actually be worth something. |
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I started with this: My uncle's flying jacket from WWII http://www.pullig.com/pics/weapons/WWII_Jacket.jpg It was given to me when I was 7. I wore it to elementary school on cold days. The Army Air Force seal is no longer visible but I think it was printed on IIRC. and this: My dad's jacket from the Army(1958-1960s) http://www.pullig.com/pics/weapons/1958_Jacket.jpg I got it about the same time as my uncle's jacket, but had to wait to grow into it. I "stormed" the beaches of Normandy with my friends wearing it many times when I was young. and this: Nazi Podium banner http://www.pullig.com/pics/weapons/Nazi_Podium_Banner.jpg Given to me when I was about 10. World War II split my family like the Civil War did many Americans. I had family on both sides. When my Nazi banner was given to me my mother begged me to throw it away as she hated the Nazis, and the part of the family that fought for them. Instead I put it away never to be seen by her or anyone else again. I've never unfolded it nor taken a picture of it until today.(30+ years later) I have a lot of other Nazi stuff given to me by family members. I'll have to get it out and photograph it sometime. It might actually be worth something. That stuff is awesome! Both of my Grandfathers were in the military, though they didn't really save any uniforms or "memorabilia" that I know of. I think the interest in military service sometimes skips generations, because my dad and uncles never cared to ask anything about their service. My grandpa was in the Air Force during Korea and was stationed in the Bikini Atoll. I guess that explains my third eye 
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I also had my father's dress officers cap, but it didn't survive my playing with it.
Too bad, it was a really cool looking cap. Also the Nazi banner was "sneaked" out of Germany. It was(still is) illegal for German citizens to display anything with a Swastika on it. You don't want to get caught showing it to anyone. |
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My father was in the Army from '56 to '59. Stationed
in Italy as part of SETAF, Southern European Task Force. As a child I played with his gear he brought home with him. I still have his dog tags and scrap book. He was in quite a few official Army photographs. I have many 8 x 10 black and white photos taken by the camp photographer. My dad passed away in '07. |
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On the same page linked above, Hays advertises this:
Vietnam US Army Brown Cotton towel. Widely Carried by personnel to wipe sweat from brow! Mint Condition, $20.00 I don't remember brown color on anything, unless an OD towel was dragged thru the mud and dried maybe. Anyone? It don't look kosher to me....... |
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WOW lol Cat small world. Quoted:
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Long time ago he offered "excellent condition" M1907 leather slings in the shotgun news .I called to confirm condition and price.$25.00 each.He verbally said they were excellent as well. I ordered 10 of them.When they arrived they were so weak,worn,cracked that they would NOT even hold the weight of a rifle,one arrived with the bottom strap split in two.When I called to say I was not happy and was gonna retrun them for refund it became a battle.All of a sudden the slings were described as good condition for "50 year old leather" and you have to expect some imperfections..I sent them back requestiong refund,,took over 6 months including calls to betterbusiness bureau, postmaster generals office,his state attorney generals offce.Finally got refund. Then on 2 other occasions,1st, a member of our living history group had a WW2 M3 paratrooper ammo cart.He had a local tent maker fabricate a canvas cover to proper specs,but he had to buy a lot of 15- or 20 of them for the fabricater to make them.He sold a couple off to friends,then the balance sold to Hayes.Hayes then advertized them as ORIGINAL WW2 and offered them for $600 each. 2nd occasion,A man I know and dealt with had reproduced near perfect copies of the machine gun brackets for the same ammo carts ^,Hayes bought a few sets and again advertized them as ORIGINAL WW2 and for big $. He never said "made like the originals,,he said ORIGINAL for both above items. If anyone doubts this info,I can put you in touch with Mr Dorney (canvas covers) and Mr Snyder (brackets) to confirm this info. Wow. I beleive you. (Hope I didn't come off as not believing you initially). I just wanted a bit of detail. That's terrible. I'll have to find a Mitchell Helmet cover elsewhere. |
| We had Nazi POW's where I'm stationed at back in the day.There is a trench that was dug out by the Nazis in the shape of a swastika that was put there so the German pilots wouldn't bomb the Nazi POW's.In case Germany ever invaded the US.This trench is still out in the woods but I've never seen it.We have a really nice museum that has all kinds of Nazi POW exhibits and other stuff from that time period. |
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