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7/4/2009 5:24:16 AM EDT
I've been offered an early Colt SP1 carbine with the serial number starting 251. The carbine is in 100% condition with less than 100 rounds fired through itl There is almost no wear on the hammer face or bolt/carrier. The seller wants 750 for this carbine. Is this a fair deal?
Thanks for your replies.
7/4/2009 5:36:56 AM EDT
[#1]
Sounds good to me.  I'm not an "expert" but I do own one.
7/4/2009 5:41:03 AM EDT
[#2]
buy it.
7/4/2009 7:13:31 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
The seller wants 750 for this carbine. Is this a fair deal?
Thanks for your replies.


More than fair, I'd say...for just the carbine...Do any extras come with it??? Magazines, cleaning rods, original box + paperwork, sling, etc...
7/4/2009 7:18:45 AM EDT
[#4]
Sounds like a GREAT deal!
7/4/2009 7:18:47 AM EDT
[#5]
That is a steal, buy it!
7/4/2009 7:24:21 AM EDT
[#6]



Quoted:


I've been offered an early Colt SP1 carbine with the serial number starting 215. The carbine is in 100% condition with less than 100 rounds fired through itl There is almost no wear on the hammer face or bolt/carrier. The seller wants 750 for this carbine. Is this a fair deal?

Thanks for your replies.


Hmm , That would be a bit high......




IF THIS WAS 1980 !








 
7/4/2009 9:16:37 AM EDT
[#7]
Buy it before they change their mind.
7/4/2009 9:27:50 AM EDT
[#8]
Don't just buy it,friggin JUMP on that thing immediatly!!!!!!
7/4/2009 11:30:42 AM EDT
[#9]
Congrats!  Are you back with your new purchase yet??  Does it still have the original stock?  Where's the pics?

Seriously, that's a very good deal especially if it's as nice as you say!
7/4/2009 11:50:56 AM EDT
[#10]
I'd be on it like Oprah on a baked ham !
7/11/2009 9:23:35 AM EDT
[#11]
I picked up the Carbine last night after work. The owner had bought the Carbine in San Diego,Ca While serving in the Navy in the early 70's. As it turned out we were in the same Destroyer Squadron serving on Spruance Class DD's. Until last year he had had the original box it came in. He did how ever have the owners manual,20/30 round magazines,and sling. He may have an original scope for it packed away somewhere also. We had a "few" beers and told sea stories about our lives on Destroyers out of San Diego. While he is not a big gun nut we talked firearms and other things that go bang. I'm a retired Gunners Mate and he wanted the carbine to go to a good home. I offered to pay him the 750 he asked for the Carbine, and he refused the amount! He took only 650 for everything! Told me to give it a good home. He wanted to help out a fellow Destroyer Sailor. He made my summer,thats for sure.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c374/Rapidrob/3304411257_0ac364243f.jpg
Here is a cell  photo he took awhile back, when my camera come back with the wife from a dog show I'll post some other photos with more details. Thanks for your inputs guys.

7/11/2009 10:03:09 AM EDT
[#12]
Ya done real good! And thank you for your service>
7/11/2009 11:06:11 AM EDT
[#13]
I love hearing stories like this - you got a great deal, from a 'fellow shipmate' so to speak, who also feels good that it's going to a good home. No one got ripped off, everyone's happy. That is a KILLER deal you ask me. Congratulations!
7/11/2009 2:22:56 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
That is a KILLER deal you ask me. Congratulations!


+1

Good for you!

7/11/2009 3:14:17 PM EDT
[#15]
She's a beauty !!
7/11/2009 6:32:24 PM EDT
[#16]
215xxx is from '84
7/12/2009 1:36:09 PM EDT
[#17]
The seller just called and he cold not find the scope. He did however, find the original box in the rafters of his shed. He says the box is marked " Law enforcement ". He did not remember the color of the lable. He lives 80 miles away, I'll have to wait until next weekend to pick it up.
Any info on the Markings on the box?
Thank you.
7/12/2009 2:45:03 PM EDT
[#18]
I seem to recall Big Hammer has some info on box labels/colors if that is what you are looking for.  I'll see if I can find it and post a link in a minute.

ETA:  http://www.biggerhammer.net/ar15/coltcolors.html
7/15/2009 4:04:09 PM EDT
[#19]
The owner did not have an original box as he sid he did, no big deal.
Here's the photo'S I took tonight of the Carbine and the goodies that came with it:



***there are three numbers hidden in the serial number******



7/15/2009 4:27:31 PM EDT
[#20]
Looks nice. You got a good deal even without the box.
7/15/2009 4:30:28 PM EDT
[#21]
Yea,,as said before,,Ya done REAL good!!!
ETA,,,There was some confusion in another post regarding SN..Your serial number is SP    125,xxx   not SP1  25xxx. I know it was not in your post,but hopefully that member will see this... Again,,nice gun and a GREAT price!!!  Enjoy it in good health Bro...
7/15/2009 4:32:46 PM EDT
[#22]
Great deal! The butt stock assembly alone would bring half of what you are into that rifle for.
7/15/2009 4:46:56 PM EDT
[#23]
S/N SP 12,5XX should be about 1968 . Black Rifle II says the carbine was introduced Sept. 27, 1977. ???
7/15/2009 4:47:28 PM EDT
[#24]
Thank you to all the RETRO members who have helped me with info and advice over the years. I know I got a good deal on the Carbine and thanks to knowing what to look for in AR's I got a very nice early addition to the collection.
Thank again.
7/15/2009 4:51:07 PM EDT
[#25]
There are three numbers hidden in the serial number, my bad.
7/15/2009 4:58:17 PM EDT
[#26]
Dang, I type slow.... lol

delete.


7/15/2009 9:41:40 PM EDT
[#27]
It's worth twice what you paid easily.

To me at least.
7/17/2009 5:32:14 AM EDT
[#28]
The stock has only two positions. The serial number list seems to indicate the carbine was made in 1977 or 1978. Is this correct?
7/17/2009 6:36:04 AM EDT
[#29]
Did you look at the SP1 data base posted at the top of the retro section?  Here is a listing from 1980:

12402X CARBINE, C M Forge code below sight "C" in a square behind the delta ring, Full circle C marked bolt carrier MPC bolt. Don't see any mark on the extractor. White spring insert, C mark on FSB, C MP CHROME BORE on top of bbl. A1 FH, metal 2 position nylon coated buttstock, still has the paint on the buffer tube nut stakes and on the bolt stop pin.

I have SP1 rifle #150xxx and I confirmed through Colt that it left the factory in 1981, so it looks like your carbine left a year prior.  I could be wrong, just going off the database.

That was a nice deal and great looking carbine.  It would go good next to my rifle................hint, hint..........kidding of course, enjoy it.

Gotta go now - I'm off to pick up my NDS lower and I think I'll include a photo of it in my next post, # 556.
7/17/2009 8:12:54 AM EDT
[#30]
What I find a little confusing is that the serial numbers listed seem to go along as one would expect, then there is the fact that the two position stock that was updated to a three position stock in the late 70's.The site conflicts with a book I have on this type rifle/carbine.  I'm just not sure who is correct in the listed data. Thank you for your imput.
7/19/2009 1:31:21 PM EDT
[#31]
I took the carbine to the range today. Using my reloads; 55 grain FMJ bullet over 25 grains of Reloader-15, I was shooting 2" groups at 100 yards. I'm also left handed as was concerned about eating hot fired cases as they were ejected. Not one case came close to my face. All were thrown to the 1-2:30 o'clock position.
The two position stock did bring me very close to the rear sight. Holding the sights onto the target was not hard even with the poor cheek weld. The trigger pull was typical of the AR15. with practice I was able to trip the hammer without having to "rope-start-the-lawn-mower"
In all a fun to shoot carbine.
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