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Posted: 6/27/2009 6:58:02 PM EDT
| OK I picked up a mottled stock for ten dollars at the gun show today it looks like it should clean up very nicely. What years or models would a mottled stock have been on? Could an early 604 have had one? |
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Your gonna get a lot of different opinions on mottled stock origins.
IMHO the "Mottled" stocks were on all rifles from early 64-66. First Gen. black, after the greens. I think in late 65 they changed the die process and stocks became matte. They could still be found on rifles many years onward. Some will say that the mottled look is just a result of wear, being worn and polished. But a true matte stock is a different beast entirely. By 68 the changeover to matte was complete. No proof, just my observations and research. Flame suit on. |
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Your gonna get a lot of different opinions on mottled stock origins. IMHO the "Mottled" stocks were on all rifles from early 64-66. First Gen. black, after the greens. I think in late 65 they changed the die process and stocks became matte. They could still be found on rifles many years onward. Some will say that the mottled look is just a result of wear, being worn and polished. But a true matte stock is a different beast entirely. By 68 the changeover to matte was complete. No proof, just my observations and research. Flame suit on. Well, True early Mottled stocks started out knida of a dull finish, it is use that makes them shiny with the brown flakes. TRUST ME I have LOTS LOTS of stocks! Can you post a picture here, make sure that you include on that has the end that meets the lower Rec.where the buffer tube enters the stock. It is easy to tell the diff in 602 stocks because of the shape and style is so similar to the 601 type "b" stocks. So using a early guide such as the 602 stock you can see the progression on those early stocks. Some of the VERY nice 602 stocks have kinda of a dull finish....not matte but I would call dull. You can see some of this around the sling swivel. The well used stocks have a very shiny appearance with the mottled look to them.. Early 603/604 stocks would be the same. I have many of these that you can also see the progression in! DO not mix them up with the stocks that have a mottled look to them that have a vinyl look to them. Now the question you need to ask yourself do you have a 602 stock or a 603/604 stock! |
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Your gonna get a lot of different opinions on mottled stock origins. IMHO the "Mottled" stocks were on all rifles from early 64-66. First Gen. black, after the greens. I think in late 65 they changed the die process and stocks became matte. They could still be found on rifles many years onward. Some will say that the mottled look is just a result of wear, being worn and polished. But a true matte stock is a different beast entirely. By 68 the changeover to matte was complete. No proof, just my observations and research. Flame suit on. Well, True early Mottled stocks started out knida of a dull finish, it is use that makes them shiny with the brown flakes. TRUST ME I have LOTS LOTS of stocks! Can you post a picture here, make sure that you include on that has the end that meets the lower Rec.where the buffer tube enters the stock. It is easy to tell the diff in 602 stocks because of the shape and style is so similar to the 601 type "b" stocks. So using a early guide such as the 602 stock you can see the progression on those early stocks. Some of the VERY nice 602 stocks have kinda of a dull finish....not matte but I would call dull. You can see some of this around the sling swivel. The well used stocks have a very shiny appearance with the mottled look to them.. Early 603/604 stocks would be the same. I have many of these that you can also see the progression in! DO not mix them up with the stocks that have a mottled look to them that have a vinyl look to them. Now the question you need to ask yourself do you have a 602 stock or a 603/604 stock! Does the 602 (type c) stocks look like the grip in my pic? The B stock I have is brown underneath the grean paint and the same as type A. 
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True early Mottled stocks started out knida of a dull finish, it is use that makes them shiny with the brown flakes. TRUST ME I have LOTS LOTS of stocks!
Yes but the later Matte finish stock is a different finish than the first early so called motteled stocks, correct? I mean, I've never seen a stock that was half and half. It's either the snowflaked mottled or the later matte black. I wish I could find the article or snippet about the black dye process and changeover in the mid sixties. Does the 602 (type c) stocks look like the grip in my pic?
Every 602 stock I've seen had tiny snowflakes, mottled, shiny and a thin shell. So yes, similar to your grip. |
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Every 602 stock I've seen had tiny snowflakes, mottled, shiny and a thin shell. So yes, similar to your grip.
There is only one finish style for 602 stocks, it has a dull finish....not matte......just kind hazy look. This is only when it was VERY new. If you have one that is shiny with the brown snowflakes it has been used, seems the dull finish polishes up. Not a bad thing just what happens with use. After seeing pictures of the MOD room 602's (after talking to EKIE and others) and comparing them to several 602 stocks I own I found this to be true. I hope to get to see Reed Knights sometime to confirm this! but if you have a 602 stock look close around the swivel you can see the dullness. Out of MANY MANY stocks of mine, I have found three diff 603/604 non trapdoor stocks. One has the dull to shiny with snowflakes, matte, (then LIKE a a1 trapdoor stock) a kind of vinyl. Funny the vinyl ones can have a mottled look to them, but unlike a shiny snowflake style the flakes you can actually feel as a raised bump. Just what I have found, A shiny mottled stock would look great with a early 604. As to the one with the green 601 stock, that is a great looking grip, which I am still learning about those. But I think that it is the same as the stocks. I have been lucky....while very new to this I have many many stocks to compare and study. I have been conversing with the experts on this as I find it interesting. I am not a expert by any means, but for me finding out what is what is 1/2 the fun! Just giving what I think I have found though my study of the 602's. Just as 602 stocks could have a FOAM FILL (drain) hole or not. There is also another fun filled fact that will come out soon about 602 stocks, but I leave that for another! |
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