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9/5/2016 11:59:17 PM EDT
For those of you running a 7.5" 5.56 what spring and buffer combo are you running for max reliability?
And for anyone who can get this specific if your running a 7.5 with a thordsen keyed buffer and adjustable GB what spring and buffer are you running? By chance if anyone is using a slr sentry 7 how many click from closed do you run?  Thanks in advance.
9/6/2016 8:06:46 AM EDT
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Sprinco Blue and an H2 on my 8.5". Could've easily gone H3.
9/6/2016 9:29:17 AM EDT
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So if you were starting over would you go h3 from the start?
9/6/2016 9:47:01 AM EDT
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Sprinco Blue and an H2 on my 8.5". Could've easily gone H3.


So if you were starting over would you go h3 from the start?


Go with an H3 to keep the bolt locked for slightly longer time. This will allow pressures to drop a little bit more and allow easier extraction.

A Tubb buffer spring may be a good option too, as it puts more force when the bolt is closed than a traditional spring.
9/6/2016 11:01:53 AM EDT
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Sprinco Blue and an H2 on my 8.5". Could've easily gone H3.


So if you were starting over would you go h3 from the start?


Possibly. If you have a standard carbine buffer you can get the H3 then swap the guts to make any buffer weight you like to see which works best.

I just bought one of each type instead except H3. They all have their place.

My thinking, in general,  is H in midlength, H2 carbine, and H2/3 pistol gas. Talking 5.56 here.

9/6/2016 7:37:40 PM EDT
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I have 2 PWS MK107 Diablo uppers, one in .223, other in 7.62x39. .223 I'm running a run-of-the-mill spring with an H buffer. Runs great. The 7.62x39, I settled on an Xtra power Wolff spring and an H2 buffer. Both are dead nuts reliable, and spit brass at 3 o'clock, for those that care.
9/7/2016 12:47:04 AM EDT
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It's going in a thordsen keyed buffer. So it's a pistol length buffer tube.
9/7/2016 3:06:26 AM EDT
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They will work just fine in a pistol length tube. Pistol length is same as carbine length it just doesn't have the ability to mount a stock.
9/7/2016 3:28:37 PM EDT
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They will work just fine in a pistol length tube. Pistol length is same as carbine length it just doesn't have the ability to mount a stock.
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I'll have to measure it when I get home but I'm almost certain the keyed tube is a lot shorter then my carbine tube
9/8/2016 2:46:32 AM EDT
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the Mistry is the gas hole.... in the barrel and it size,  a barrel 7.5 inches long can have many different gas hole sizes  from different manufactures, so it's not a simple as use buffer x or barrel length y.

a great tool is the kak buffer with different weights you can tune with, a tunable gas block is another, at worst,  an undersized gas port and your under gassed, would require enlarging the gas port size, most manufactures are over gassing somewhat  and it works for many types of rounds, yet may be beating you and your pistol to death, and you can tell by the brass ejection pattern.

but hey it's my second post so I could be making this all up as go.....
9/8/2016 9:31:37 AM EDT
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I'm using a slr sentry 7 gas block. So already good there. At this point I'm looking at rainier ultra match barrels. They seem to be drilled efficiently gas port wise.
9/8/2016 11:20:01 AM EDT
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Ah, your specific tube may very well be shorter. Not familiar with the model.

But your standard pistol length buffer tube use the same spring and buffer as a carbine buffer tube that accepts a stock.

Are you dead set on 5.56? .300blk is way better suited to that barrel length
9/8/2016 12:28:14 PM EDT
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looks like a standard buffer tube to me, I would be Leary of using a buffer tube that can readily  accept a stock on a pistol build.
.....but that just me.
9/8/2016 2:52:12 PM EDT
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Ah, your specific tube may very well be shorter. Not familiar with the model.

But your standard pistol length buffer tube use the same spring and buffer as a carbine buffer tube that accepts a stock.

Are you dead set on 5.56? .300blk is way better suited to that barrel length
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Ya the thordsen still accepts standard springs and such but the keyed tube is in fact shorter. I'll measure it today since I'm around
9/8/2016 2:53:07 PM EDT
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looks like a standard buffer tube to me, I would be Leary of using a buffer tube that can readily  accept a stock on a pistol build.
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Well it's not. You couldn't be more wrong. It's a pistol stock set up. It comes that way. The tube a keyed buffer tube made by thordsen for the pistol stock. Not a stand stock
9/8/2016 2:53:56 PM EDT
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Ah, your specific tube may very well be shorter. Not familiar with the model.

But your standard pistol length buffer tube use the same spring and buffer as a carbine buffer tube that accepts a stock.

Are you dead set on 5.56? .300blk is way better suited to that barrel length
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Oh and yes at this point I plan on sticking with a 223 Wylde barrel. My sbr is 300blk.
9/8/2016 3:53:35 PM EDT
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Possibly. If you have a standard carbine buffer you can get the H3 then swap the guts to make any buffer weight you like to see which works best.





I just bought one of each type instead except H3. They all have their place.





My thinking, in general,  is H in midlength, H2 carbine, and H2/3 pistol gas. Talking 5.56 here.





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Sprinco Blue and an H2 on my 8.5". Could've easily gone H3.






So if you were starting over would you go h3 from the start?






Possibly. If you have a standard carbine buffer you can get the H3 then swap the guts to make any buffer weight you like to see which works best.





I just bought one of each type instead except H3. They all have their place.





My thinking, in general,  is H in midlength, H2 carbine, and H2/3 pistol gas. Talking 5.56 here.





would 300BLK be different? I'm in the process of putting together a 10.5" 300BLK and was planning on using a spare Spikes ST-T2 I had laying around. I'm already using a ST-T2 in my 16" 300BLK





 
9/8/2016 5:33:37 PM EDT
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would 300BLK be different? I'm in the process of putting together a 10.5" 300BLK and was planning on using a spare Spikes ST-T2 I had laying around. I'm already using a ST-T2 in my 16" 300BLK
 
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Sprinco Blue and an H2 on my 8.5". Could've easily gone H3.


So if you were starting over would you go h3 from the start?


Possibly. If you have a standard carbine buffer you can get the H3 then swap the guts to make any buffer weight you like to see which works best.

I just bought one of each type instead except H3. They all have their place.

My thinking, in general,  is H in midlength, H2 carbine, and H2/3 pistol gas. Talking 5.56 here.

would 300BLK be different? I'm in the process of putting together a 10.5" 300BLK and was planning on using a spare Spikes ST-T2 I had laying around. I'm already using a ST-T2 in my 16" 300BLK
 


I've been running the vltor sp1 kit which is a carbine spring and standard buffer in my 9.5 300 sbr. It's been running fine so far
9/9/2016 2:50:50 AM EDT
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https://www.kakindustry.com/ar-15-parts/lower-parts/buffer-tubes-and-parts/ar15-buffer-system


one buffer kit.......many options.
9/9/2016 8:49:50 AM EDT
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I've been running the vltor sp1 kit which is a carbine spring and standard buffer in my 9.5 300 sbr. It's been running fine so far
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Sprinco Blue and an H2 on my 8.5". Could've easily gone H3.




So if you were starting over would you go h3 from the start?




Possibly. If you have a standard carbine buffer you can get the H3 then swap the guts to make any buffer weight you like to see which works best.



I just bought one of each type instead except H3. They all have their place.



My thinking, in general,  is H in midlength, H2 carbine, and H2/3 pistol gas. Talking 5.56 here.



would 300BLK be different? I'm in the process of putting together a 10.5" 300BLK and was planning on using a spare Spikes ST-T2 I had laying around. I'm already using a ST-T2 in my 16" 300BLK

 




I've been running the vltor sp1 kit which is a carbine spring and standard buffer in my 9.5 300 sbr. It's been running fine so far
right on, so I guess it's kind of a "try it and see what works" kinda thing. I've got a couple of other spare buffers laying around if needed.



 
9/11/2016 7:34:29 PM EDT
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Got a good deal on an h2 so I'll give that a whirl
9/12/2016 4:01:51 PM EDT
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would 300BLK be different? I'm in the process of putting together a 10.5" 300BLK and was planning on using a spare Spikes ST-T2 I had laying around. I'm already using a ST-T2 in my 16" 300BLK
 
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Sprinco Blue and an H2 on my 8.5". Could've easily gone H3.


So if you were starting over would you go h3 from the start?


Possibly. If you have a standard carbine buffer you can get the H3 then swap the guts to make any buffer weight you like to see which works best.

I just bought one of each type instead except H3. They all have their place.

My thinking, in general,  is H in midlength, H2 carbine, and H2/3 pistol gas. Talking 5.56 here.

would 300BLK be different? I'm in the process of putting together a 10.5" 300BLK and was planning on using a spare Spikes ST-T2 I had laying around. I'm already using a ST-T2 in my 16" 300BLK
 


Not enough experience with .300blk to know that one.  I use a carbine buffer in my 16" pistol gas and it ejects at 3:00 so I'm leaving it there.
9/13/2016 1:46:14 AM EDT
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Ordered the sprinco blue today.
9/13/2016 3:15:41 PM EDT
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the keyed buffer fits a standard stock ......you have a link to the keyed pistol only buffer?
no skin off my back either way.... for your sake hope you are correct.


Thordsen Customs and is ideal for use with either our FRS-15 Rifle Stock or AR/AK Cheek Rest kits.  if that's it, that a heck of a risk to use.....just sayin
9/16/2016 4:07:24 PM EDT
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the keyed buffer fits a standard stock ......you have a link to the keyed pistol only buffer?
no skin off my back either way.... for your sake hope you are correct.


Thordsen Customs and is ideal for use with either our FRS-15 Rifle Stock or AR/AK Cheek Rest kits.  if that's it, that a heck of a risk to use.....just sayin
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Sorry. Your 110% wrong. The keyed buffer kit from thordsen is for pistol only. The buffer tube cannot accept any stock at all. Idk what model your talking About but the enhanced pistol kit I have is for pistol only
9/17/2016 11:11:38 AM EDT
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Sorry. Your 110% wrong. The keyed buffer kit from thordsen is for pistol only. The buffer tube cannot accept any stock at all. Idk what model your talking About but the enhanced pistol kit I have is for pistol only
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the keyed buffer fits a standard stock ......you have a link to the keyed pistol only buffer?
no skin off my back either way.... for your sake hope you are correct.


Thordsen Customs and is ideal for use with either our FRS-15 Rifle Stock or AR/AK Cheek Rest kits.  if that's it, that a heck of a risk to use.....just sayin


Sorry. Your 110% wrong. The keyed buffer kit from thordsen is for pistol only. The buffer tube cannot accept any stock at all. Idk what model your talking About but the enhanced pistol kit I have is for pistol only


great, have fun.....




Our Keyed Recoil System is ideal for use with either our FRS-15 Rifle Stock or AR/AK Cheek Rest kits. All components are top quality and American made.
9/17/2016 11:22:56 AM EDT
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great, have fun.....




Our Keyed Recoil System is ideal for use with either our FRS-15 Rifle Stock or AR/AK Cheek Rest kits. All components are top quality and American made.
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the keyed buffer fits a standard stock ......you have a link to the keyed pistol only buffer?
no skin off my back either way.... for your sake hope you are correct.


Thordsen Customs and is ideal for use with either our FRS-15 Rifle Stock or AR/AK Cheek Rest kits.  if that's it, that a heck of a risk to use.....just sayin


Sorry. Your 110% wrong. The keyed buffer kit from thordsen is for pistol only. The buffer tube cannot accept any stock at all. Idk what model your talking About but the enhanced pistol kit I have is for pistol only


great, have fun.....




Our Keyed Recoil System is ideal for use with either our FRS-15 Rifle Stock or AR/AK Cheek Rest kits. All components are top quality and American made.


Again you keep keep posting the wrong item info. I'm using the ENHANCED PISTOL KIT. Idk how much more clear I can make that. The enhanced tube that comes in that kit cannot accept any stock. Period. End of story. My larue stock will not no way fit.
9/17/2016 1:13:16 PM EDT
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link to said buffer?
look its no skin off my back pal, but if you say used this for home defense, and you have a keyed buffer......a lawyer could have a field day with that, I work with a bunch of leo types, we have talked about this before....

but like I said, no skin off my back, I have a shockwave tube, its staked, and is a pistol only tube.
9/17/2016 2:40:54 PM EDT
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I ran a JP polished (not the extra power one) spring and a Spikes ST-T2 buffer on my 7.5 inch 5.56 upper. It ran smooth with those in a basic Phase 5 Tactical buffer tube.
9/17/2016 7:17:25 PM EDT
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look its no skin off my back pal, but if you say used this for home defense, and you have a keyed buffer......a lawyer could have a field day with that, I work with a bunch of leo types, we have talked about this before....

but like I said, no skin off my back, I have a shockwave tube, its staked, and is a pistol only tube.
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I love how you try and quote off the site but conviently leave out the part that mentions a stock cannot be locked on.
"They are made without the slot and detent holes. This gives it a clean look and eliminates the ability to lock an adjustable stock onto it."

For someone with 12 post I would do more research before making comments about products you don't know about. Secondly there is no law against having a carbine buffer tube on a pistol. That is a fact. I know this because I had it clarified while waiting for my Sbr stamps. Because they had carbine buffers while waiting for the stamps to return. Thirdly my sbr is for home defense use. Not this pistol build. But your enjoy your incorrect advice from your LEO buddies
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