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Posted: 12/30/2015 12:00:46 PM EDT
| What do guys like/use for a good pistol trigger? |
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Mega Arms tactical trigger its fully adjustable for overtravel and creep with front and back set screws next to the trigger and replaces the mil spec trigger and uses stock parts from the trigger group and the trigger pull works out to be just at 4.5 lbs about with very little movement in the trigger and the reset.
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| I've got a single stage POF drop in that is 4.5lb, I still like my single stage CMC 3.5lb that is on my rifle better but the POF is growing on me. Either way it's much better than the first mil spec I had :) i am intrigued by the Hiperfire 24c but it's over kill for me. |
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Quoted: Mega Arms tactical trigger its fully adjustable for overtravel and creep with front and back set screws next to the trigger and replaces the mil spec trigger and uses stock parts from the trigger group and the trigger pull works out to be just at 4.5 lbs about with very little movement in the trigger and the reset. THE BEST PART THE PRICE $60 BUCKS best upgrade on any ar |
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The issue I could see with the Mega Arms Tactical trigger is it is only the trigger. If the hammer sear has any tooling marks on it, you would still need to hone or polish those out and then matching surface to the trigger could be an issue. I don't have one so can't give a first hand experience... just an observation.
I work my milspec triggers and found all the hammer sears have had tooling marks on them that cause stopping points in trigger pull. Could be the cheap trigger groups I have. Its more difficult to remove those tooling marks because of the small notched area to work in. Can't go wrong with a RRA match trigger. $62 from RRA. I have one on a carbine and definitely can recommend from first hand experience. |
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AR pistol. Use is for 21 feet to 125m, a 2 MOA gun for ostensibly 18MOA live targets, altho some have taken them to carbine courses or shot some 3 Gun with them. Still, it's a pistol, not a sub MOA precision gun.
A nice trigger better than milspec is good to have - but precision trigger pull weights aren't really what the gun does. And light springs don't increase reliability, they can and do malfunction on military hard primer ammo. Pistols aren't precision target guns, so, handloaded precision target ammo isn't the primary choice. Usually we read about cheap surplus ammo being the choice, which means the standard weight military spring is needed for the standard hard military primer. So, why all the race gun triggers being recommended? I see a disconnect in logic here. We don't need them light enough to be ticklish to shoot - they are already short enough to point at our legs and head already. These things can muzzle YOU very easily. Am I making sense? This isn't saying a NYC ten pound trigger is the bee's knees, but expensive precision range triggers aren't all that. For the amount of money spent on them, all you get is a lighter pull, less creep, and less grit. They cannot make a barely 2 MOA gun with no legal stock on it suddenly become a sub MOA 400m precision sniper pistol. With the AR pistol, hits, not points count. Nobody needs a bad trigger but going overboard for a race gun part doesn't make it "moar" anything. The bullet still does all the work. |
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Quoted: AR pistol. Use is for 21 feet to 125m, a 2 MOA gun for ostensibly 18MOA live targets, altho some have taken them to carbine courses or shot some 3 Gun with them. Still, it's a pistol, not a sub MOA precision gun. A nice trigger better than milspec is good to have - but precision trigger pull weights aren't really what the gun does. And light springs don't increase reliability, they can and do malfunction on military hard primer ammo. Pistols aren't precision target guns, so, handloaded precision target ammo isn't the primary choice. Usually we read about cheap surplus ammo being the choice, which means the standard weight military spring is needed for the standard hard military primer. So, why all the race gun triggers being recommended? I see a disconnect in logic here. We don't need them light enough to be ticklish to shoot - they are already short enough to point at our legs and head already. These things can muzzle YOU very easily. Am I making sense? This isn't saying a NYC ten pound trigger is the bee's knees, but expensive precision range triggers aren't all that. For the amount of money spent on them, all you get is a lighter pull, less creep, and less grit. They cannot make a barely 2 MOA gun with no legal stock on it suddenly become a sub MOA 400m precision sniper pistol. With the AR pistol, hits, not points count. Nobody needs a bad trigger but going overboard for a race gun part doesn't make it "moar" anything. The bullet still does all the work. If all your doing is shooting at live targets I suggest your in for a long stretch in prison. If you keep spewing this 2moa at a 18 moa target BS in every thread you post in because you think it make you look cool i have news for you, it only makes you look like a shit salesman with a mouthful of samples, nothing more. A "18MOA target" at 300M is over 56", what are you shooting at ? Cows? And yes I regularly shoot pistols at 300M, why?, because that is the limit of my range. |
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AR pistol. Use is for 21 feet to 125m, a 2 MOA gun for ostensibly 18MOA live targets, altho some have taken them to carbine courses or shot some 3 Gun with them. Still, it's a pistol, not a sub MOA precision gun. A nice trigger better than milspec is good to have - but precision trigger pull weights aren't really what the gun does. And light springs don't increase reliability, they can and do malfunction on military hard primer ammo. Pistols aren't precision target guns, so, handloaded precision target ammo isn't the primary choice. Usually we read about cheap surplus ammo being the choice, which means the standard weight military spring is needed for the standard hard military primer. So, why all the race gun triggers being recommended? I see a disconnect in logic here. We don't need them light enough to be ticklish to shoot - they are already short enough to point at our legs and head already. These things can muzzle YOU very easily. Am I making sense? This isn't saying a NYC ten pound trigger is the bee's knees, but expensive precision range triggers aren't all that. For the amount of money spent on them, all you get is a lighter pull, less creep, and less grit. They cannot make a barely 2 MOA gun with no legal stock on it suddenly become a sub MOA 400m precision sniper pistol. With the AR pistol, hits, not points count. Nobody needs a bad trigger but going overboard for a race gun part doesn't make it "moar" anything. The bullet still does all the work. I agree that a "race gun" trigger is not needed and AR pistols aren't the best for precision shooting, but I completely disagree on the rest of your statement. I have 3 ARs now with JP yellow springs and have had 6 other ARs in the past, all with JP yellow springs. I shoot .mil and other hard primers and I have NEVER had a failure to fire in 10s of thousands of rounds. Can it happen, sure, but I think you are blowing it out of proportion. Muzzle safety is a function of familiarity with firearms and training, not barrel length. Accuracy is more of a function of barrel quality and shooter ability, not barrel length. Quality triggers DO make for more consistent brakes and for the most part so does a lighter trigger as long as there is not too much creep. |
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franklin armory binary trigger only problem with this is the trigger has to be fitted in you lower by your self and even still the trigger is 399 and not for sure going to work with your lower for them to fit it to your lower u have to send them a basically complete lower and they charge you 549 for them to fit it to your lower and for the trigger that's expensive |
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ALG Similar is the Spikes Battle Trigger. Milspec reliability and interchangeability, but is polished and NiB coated to make it slick as pig snot with a touch of lube. Runs about $55. Have it in most of my builds and have no issues doing accuracy work or speed work. |
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I'm becoming a fan of the Hypertouch 24C with the heavy 7.62x39 springs. It's a single stage trigger that wacks the shit out of the firing pin and still has a nice light pull, single stage. The added benefit is a slightly longer dwell time with the heavier springs. They should include those springs with the trigger but they don't. They make you spend $11 plus shipping to get them.
I like single stage over double so that's one of the big things. There's no other trigger that can provide that much hammer power with a nice light single stage pull. It's an interesting design. Makes shooting Russian steel cased ammo a breeze. |
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