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Posted: 2/18/2012 6:41:32 AM EDT
| I was told that my pistol lower was registered as an AOW, does this mean that i can put a vertical grip or a stock on it and still be legal? |
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Quoted: I was told that my pistol lower was registered as an AOW, does this mean that i can put a vertical grip or a stock on it and still be legal? Not unless you are the builder and have an approved form1, or you got it from a dealer or registered owner on an approved form4. Other than that you have a plain AR lower. If it was once a AOW it is not any longer once it was sold as a title 1. To clarify, the complete firearm is the only thing registered as a NFA firearm. A lower in itself is not a AOW. If the firearm is taken apart and all the parts are still in possession of the owner then it is still a NFA firearm. Once the parts are sold off and no longer together, with the registered owner, the firearm is out of the purview of the NFA. The new owner must again file a form1 and pay the tax to make it back into a NFA firearm. ETA: If it was ever a NFA firearm it will have the name and city/state of the person or company that made it as a NFA firearm engraved on it. If it doesn't it was never a legal NFA firearm. |
| So is there a way to tell if my pistol is legal if it has no markings. The Guy I bought it from stated that it was a stripped spikes lower registered as an aow built into a pistol. There are no markings on the pistol anywhere. I already contacted spikes tactical and really didn't get any type of answer other than " in Florida you don't have to register weapons." It meets all the requirements on this site about being a legal pistol. Oh and a large gun shop backed up his story but still no paperwork. |
| It's going to be next to impossible to prove one way or another. Personally I'd just build it into a rifle and get a new lower that I could positively trace the history of to make into a pistol. Lowers are a lot cheaper than lawyers in the unlikely event the ATF were to question it. |
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Quoted: So is there a way to tell if my pistol is legal if it has no markings. The Guy I bought it from stated that it was a stripped spikes lower registered as an aow built into a pistol. There are no markings on the pistol anywhere. I already contacted spikes tactical and really didn't get any type of answer other than " in Florida you don't have to register weapons." It meets all the requirements on this site about being a legal pistol. Oh and a large gun shop backed up his story but still no paperwork. If there are no engravings of the registers AOW maker then the story is highly suspect. That combined with the story that it was registered as an AOW and then built into a pistol just doesn't jibe. A lower cannot be registered as a NFA firearm, only a complete weapon meets the definition set forth in the NFA. Are you certain that the seller said it was a Any Other Weapon (AOW) and not simply "other"? Other is the classification the FFL must list on the 4473 when he sells a receiver. |
| No there are no markings and he stated that the weapon was an AOW. But that is word of mouth he might have ment other. The gun store that we met at for the transaction also backed his story that every thing was legal but they did state other not AOW. The gun store ensured me that as long as the weapon was built under the rules of a pistol that it would be no problem as long as it was left as a pistol. The seller ensured that the lower was a stripped lower never built into a rifle. it seems that there should be some way to check and see how the lower was registered. How does the atf prove that it wasn't? I think i will just send in the 200 bucks and make it an sbr to be safe. |
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it seems that there should be some way to check and see how the lower was registered. How does the atf prove that it wasn't? Your lower was never registered. If it was bought stripped, then it was transferred as "other," not AOW (two very, very different things). An ATF audit would of the gun store would find that the receiver was transferred to your friend as "other." The only way for the ATF to prove that it was built into a rifle is if they have a picture of it in a rifle configuration. |
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