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3/4/2007 6:45:16 PM EDT
New reciever on form 4473 said Stripped Revciever Only. How do I find out when it was called in on the background check on how it was reported as?? Or does it matter?
3/4/2007 6:59:53 PM EDT
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I would like to build a pistol with it.
3/5/2007 7:03:07 AM EDT
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What it is called in as is immaterial unless your state has a pistol licensing law or treats pistols differently from rifles in any way.  At the FEDERAL level, the NICS check does not recognize anything but long guns and hand guns.  Since the receiver has not been built as either, they can call it in as either and it doesn't change anything legally or materially.

That said, for S&G, you can look at the top of page 2 and there is a block to check for either long gun or handgun.  That is NOT, I repeat, IT IS NOT where you look to figure out that you have a stripped lower.

All things being equal, it's better to check "Pistol" as this keeps the store from liability.  Technically an 18-year-old can buy a stripped lower and build it into a pistol given that state laws don't prohibit OWNERSHIP of a pistol.  Federal laws don't prohibit OWNERSHIP of a pistol, merely sale by FFL dealers.

One problem with checking pistol though is you can force the store to do a Multiple Sales form, and that's more paperwork.  It also flags you with the BATFE as a gun-runner.  Jack boots are, as we speak, being polished up waiting for a Democrat to take office!
3/6/2007 7:29:15 PM EDT
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EDIT: www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=122&t=245366

That is a sticky in this forum.  The receiver must be transferred as a PISTOL, this means that "Handgun" must be checked off in box 18 on page two of form 4473.  You can find out how the receiver was transfered by asking your dealer to see the 4473.  I always ask people how they would like it to be transfered before I complete the paperwork.  
3/9/2007 10:22:24 PM EDT
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What would be the disadvantage of ALWAYS having your virgin receivers on form 4473 logged in as a pistol?  As I understand it, there is nothing that prevents you from building a rifle on a pistol receiver? (I understand you can't change it back to a pistol) Wouldn't this give either option whenever you decide to start building?    Why not make then ALL pistol receivers every time?
3/10/2007 5:49:37 AM EDT
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If the lower can legally be built into a pistol, then, after it is first built as a pistol, you can switch uppers to a 16"+ upper and add a buttstock and still be able to switch back to the shorty upper and no buttstock.
3/10/2007 10:15:11 PM EDT
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EDIT: www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=122&t=245366

That is a sticky in this forum.  The receiver must be transferred as a PISTOL, this means that "Handgun" must be checked off in box 18 on page two of form 4473.  You can find out how the receiver was transfered by asking your dealer to see the 4473.  I always ask people how they would like it to be transfered before I complete the paperwork.  

We must be reading two different "stickys" , it DOES NOT say anything about having to  be transferred as a pistol, it says that it must not be described as a rifle.  Please do not try to pass "your" interpretation as fact.  The fact is  new stripped lower will work.  No mention of pistol is required. You could then build it as a pistol first, and then into a rifle and back to a pistol etc.  That's the way I read the sticky.  
3/11/2007 6:06:06 PM EDT
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EDIT: www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=122&t=245366

We must be reading two different "stickys" , it DOES NOT say anything about having to  be transferred as a pistol, it says that it must not be described as a rifle.  Please do not try to pass "your" interpretation as fact.  The fact is  new stripped lower will work.  No mention of pistol is required. You could then build it as a pistol first, and then into a rifle and back to a pistol etc.  That's the way I read the sticky.  


So its ok on the 4473 for the long gun box to be checked in Part B and then in part D the lower receiver is described as a "stripped lower" and on my bill of sale it says "stripped lower receiver"??
3/11/2007 8:26:37 PM EDT
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EDIT: www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=122&t=245366

We must be reading two different "stickys" , it DOES NOT say anything about having to  be transferred as a pistol, it says that it must not be described as a rifle.  Please do not try to pass "your" interpretation as fact.  The fact is  new stripped lower will work.  No mention of pistol is required. You could then build it as a pistol first, and then into a rifle and back to a pistol etc.  That's the way I read the sticky.  


So its ok on the 4473 for the long gun box to be checked in Part B and then in part D the lower receiver is described as a "stripped lower" and on my bill of sale it says "stripped lower receiver"??

The letter in the sticky specifically addresses this question.  It calls the receiver a rifle receiver and says it can be made into a pistol on the FIRST build.  That's the crux of the matter, first build CAN be a pistol, PERIOD.  So I say OK, as long as it's the first build.  That's what the letter is all about.  Have fun.
3/16/2007 9:50:09 AM EDT
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EDIT: www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=122&t=245366

We must be reading two different "stickys" , it DOES NOT say anything about having to  be transferred as a pistol, it says that it must not be described as a rifle.  Please do not try to pass "your" interpretation as fact.  The fact is  new stripped lower will work.  No mention of pistol is required. You could then build it as a pistol first, and then into a rifle and back to a pistol etc.  That's the way I read the sticky.  


So its ok on the 4473 for the long gun box to be checked in Part B and then in part D the lower receiver is described as a "stripped lower" and on my bill of sale it says "stripped lower receiver"??

The letter in the sticky specifically addresses this question.  It calls the receiver a rifle receiver and says it can be made into a pistol on the FIRST build.  That's the crux of the matter, first build CAN be a pistol, PERIOD.  So I say OK, as long as it's the first build.  That's what the letter is all about.  Have fun.


Thank you for your input, snowdriver.  
3/21/2007 11:39:05 AM EDT
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What would be the disadvantage of ALWAYS having your virgin receivers on form 4473 logged in as a pistol?  As I understand it, there is nothing that prevents you from building a rifle on a pistol receiver? (I understand you can't change it back to a pistol) Wouldn't this give either option whenever you decide to start building?    Why not make then ALL pistol receivers every time?





That statement is the equivalent of saying that once you add that whiz-bang carbine kit to your SA Milspec for a session at the range, it has become a rifle and you can never add your slide to it again, or you built a SBR.

You can make a pistol into a 16" or longer rifle and you can return the configuration back to a pistol. The only thing you cannot do is mate anything shorter than 16" with a buttstock.

ETA: All this assumes you have a pistol lower... rifle lowers cannot be modified without classification as SBRs
3/21/2007 11:44:39 AM EDT
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