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12/10/2024 5:48:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: panthermark][Edited] [#1]
I think the listed measurements are fairly close.






Again, when I mount the rail to an upper, there are about two threads showing on the WC barrel, so it is really close to 8".

8" WC, 8.3" BA Hanson, 8.5" PSA

Edit - That 8.5" PSA is a thicc boi as well.  I think it is a heavy profile.  

12/10/2024 5:49:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: optimator][Edited] [#2]
I got mine put together today. I went with a Apex Gator Grip handguard.

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Norcal callsign: Stun Gun

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12/11/2024 12:07:36 PM EDT
[#3]
PSA barrel looks similar to what I removed on my build, 8"" BA "Modern Profile" in 5.56 Almost bull barrel like.

Interesting comparison between the 3.
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12/11/2024 12:08:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By optimator:
I got mine put together today. I went with a Apex Gator Grip handguard.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/280530/IMG_6076_jpeg-3402901.JPG
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Looks good optimator. Griffin Plan A too, I like them as well.
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12/11/2024 12:44:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By panthermark:
I think the listed measurements are fairly close.


https://i.imgur.com/dkFTrd2.jpg



Again, when I mount the rail to an upper, there are about two threads showing on the WC barrel, so it is really close to 8".

8" WC, 8.3" BA Hanson, 8.5" PSA

Edit - That 8.5" PSA is a thicc boi as well.  I think it is a heavy profile.  

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@panthermark how old is you WC barrel? I didn't notice if you just got it from CTD. Curious if WC has made a change and not relabeled the barrel or if maybe they are inconsistent in length.
12/11/2024 1:24:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: panthermark][Edited] [#6]
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Originally Posted By MackDaddy1962:
PSA barrel looks similar to what I removed on my build, 8"" BA "Modern Profile" in 5.56 Almost bull barrel like.

Interesting comparison between the 3.
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Yup, My 9" BA Performance (Non Hanson) and my 8.5" PSA are similar in cut, although my BA is not quite as chunky.

I have it installed on my HD gun.  Modern profile, but with full (HP and MPI) testing and the Nickel Boron coated feed ramp extension....like the Hanson's have.  Back in the day the Performance model was only about $10-$15 more than the Modern version, so it seemed like a no-brainer.  (After looking, probably closer to $25 or so more).


https://www.righttobear.com/ballistic-advantage-9-barrel-300-blackout-babl300004f/


12/11/2024 1:27:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By spyderboy03:
@panthermark how old is you WC barrel? I didn't notice if you just got it from CTD. Curious if WC has made a change and not relabeled the barrel or if maybe they are inconsistent in length.
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It is the recent CTD version that someone grabbed in the tri-state area.
12/21/2024 1:05:11 PM EDT
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I am not sure if this is the appropriate place to drop this, but Rosco Manufacturing is doing a close out on their purebred 300 blackout 8.2 barrels for $79 shipped. I missed out on the Wilson Combat barrel and I thought there might be some others looking for a good deal too.
12/21/2024 2:26:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TimeIsRunninOut:
I am not sure if this is the appropriate place to drop this, but Rosco Manufacturing is doing a close out on their purebred 300 blackout 8.2 barrels for $79 shipped. I missed out on the Wilson Combat barrel and I thought there might be some others looking for a good deal too.
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Good to know. I'm sure there's folks that would be interested!
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12/27/2024 2:51:16 PM EDT
[#10]
In the interest of sharing barrel profiles, I picked up this Spinta Precision 8” on sale from Rainier.  It’s pretty darned light weight.  

https://www.rainierarms.com/spinta-precision-ar-15-300blk-cold-hammer-forged-barrel-8-limited-production/
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12/27/2024 3:00:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Scott_S:
In the interest of sharing barrel profiles, I picked up this Spinta Precision 8” on sale from Rainier.  It’s pretty darned light weight.  

https://www.rainierarms.com/spinta-precision-ar-15-300blk-cold-hammer-forged-barrel-8-limited-production/
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Wow, and it's cold hammer forged too. Nice!
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12/27/2024 3:05:38 PM EDT
[#12]
Just wanted to note.. took the deep dive yesterday and bought a SiCo Scythe Ti can. Big investment with all the trimmings (ECCO Ti Plan A HUB mount, SiCo flat Ti endcap.)

A bit more than I need / wanted to spend but screw it. One and done for this build. I'll eat more Ramen noodles to make up for it..

Hope to get DocuSign stuff soon and get it certified. Man, that can is girthy but LIGHT. Should work out perfect on this.
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12/27/2024 7:22:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MackDaddy1962:

Wow, and it's cold hammer forged too. Nice!
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Originally Posted By MackDaddy1962:
Originally Posted By Scott_S:
In the interest of sharing barrel profiles, I picked up this Spinta Precision 8" on sale from Rainier.  It's pretty darned light weight.  

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Wow, and it's cold hammer forged too. Nice!
When was the last time that was in stock?
12/27/2024 7:37:46 PM EDT
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No idea.. I just followed dudes link. I saw OOS as well.
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12/27/2024 8:49:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MackDaddy1962:

No idea.. I just followed dudes link. I saw OOS as well.
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It came up on my searches months ago and was oos then. Really hoping Geissele releases their 300 barrels/uppers/guns during or after SHOT
12/28/2024 12:24:26 PM EDT
[#16]
I've lost my train of thought on all this. Has anyone shot the WC 8" 300 BO barrel yet? I've yet to get mine out.. I'll probably wait for my Scythe can to get here before I do..

I think I remember some of you have, but I'm a bit foggy right now. Back pain is ruling my life. ugg.
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12/28/2024 12:26:52 PM EDT
[#17]
I shot mine.  Only about. 100rds so far.  I need to order some ammo from AAC to test out before buying a bunch.  Just wanted to get through the holidays.
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12/28/2024 12:31:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MackDaddy1962][Edited] [#18]
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Originally Posted By metalsaber:
I shot mine.  Only about. 100rds so far.  I need to order some ammo from AAC to test out before buying a bunch.  Just wanted to get through the holidays.
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Sweet. I've got some nice subs.. 180gr to 220gr for testing. Now that I've got a proper can on the way I need to get some nice 110gr supers too.

Really looking forward to getting it dialed in. Even though the ammo is $$$, I'm freak'n geeked.
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12/28/2024 3:01:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By spyderboy03:
Originally Posted By MackDaddy1962:
Originally Posted By Scott_S:
In the interest of sharing barrel profiles, I picked up this Spinta Precision 8" on sale from Rainier.  It's pretty darned light weight.  

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Wow, and it's cold hammer forged too. Nice!
When was the last time that was in stock?


I bought mine nearly two years ago, and I thought about buying another about a year ago when it was still in stock. No idea how long it’s been out of stock.  

The barrel looks even better in person.  And it shoots both subs and supers suppressed and unsuppressed.
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12/28/2024 3:11:16 PM EDT
[#20]
And so the rabbit hole for the new suppressor begins. ECCO Ti Plan A HUB mount came it today. Pure Artwork!



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12/28/2024 3:48:00 PM EDT
[#21]
I'd agree on Subsonics- 300 was the beginning of repacing SMG's in 9/40/45 ect. MP5, UMP, ect. Hitting a tgt with a 220-230 grain sub slaps, especially if suppressed and for HD, you wont have to worry about the drop off since the subs are going to drop.
12/28/2024 5:02:59 PM EDT
[#22]
Got some warm weather here so i repainted my rifle.



I bought all this equipment. What do you mean that the dead AREN'T coming back to life?
12/28/2024 5:20:06 PM EDT
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Wow! That came out super nice. Job well done.
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12/30/2024 3:51:09 PM EDT
[#24]
Now all I need is a tube!

Still waiting on Doc-u-Sign stuff to come

Here's the SiCo Ti flat end cap & ECCO Ti hub mount weights



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12/30/2024 5:34:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MackDaddy1962:
Now all I need is a tube!

Still waiting on Doc-u-Sign stuff to come

Here's the SiCo Ti flat end cap & ECCO Ti hub mount weights

https://media.fotki.com/2v2ZHdGMFx9T3R.jpg

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Those are light!
12/30/2024 6:01:09 PM EDT
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Those are light!
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That's what I thought too. I'm excited to get this all together to say the least. Where's my freak'n Doc-u-Sign shit! Argh..
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12/30/2024 6:09:22 PM EDT
[#27]
Just for comparison sake, here's the Rugged Obsidian 9 in short mode with a Griffin Alpha Plan A HUB mount (steel.) The new Scythe Ti should only come in around ~ 1.0oz heavier than this. And be a proper suppressor for this build. Freak'n sweet...

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12/30/2024 7:10:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By spyderboy03:
@MackDaddy1962

Yes, it is a Geissele factory tabbed upper/rail combo. They released a limited number of DDC blems this year during the July4th sale (I traded a member here my DDC upper for one of his ODG tabbed uppers). I managed to get 2 sets and already passed one along at cost. G sold them for $252.50 plus shipping. One set was recently listed on tacswap for $700 IIRC and ended up slowly dropping to $350. It got archived but no idea if it sold or not. I'm hoping their 300blk products launch this year for Halloween or Black Friday. Eurooptic already has skus listed for 5", 8", and 10.3" barrels, uppers, and guns.

Weapon light is this: https://www.primaryarms.com/streamlight-tlr-rm-1-compact-rail-mount-light-500-lumen-black  Very flood light and not much candela, which is fine for my use of home defense. Works great in the house, but you won't see very far with it outside.

ETA: The 10.5" MK16 will cleanly chop to 7.25". Here is a tabbed ODG 10.5 rail I chopped to 7.25" and eventually sold...sad I did now lol.
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The 7" rail works with a 7.5" Faxon barrel.

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12/30/2024 7:57:58 PM EDT
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The 7" rail works with a 7.5" Faxon barrel.

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Yep, I had a 7" MK14 with a 7.5" Faxon with a YHM Resonator K on a sRx short brake mount.
12/30/2024 7:58:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MackDaddy1962:

That's what I thought too. I'm excited to get this all together to say the least. Where's my freak'n Doc-u-Sign shit! Argh..
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Capitol Armory?
12/30/2024 8:16:29 PM EDT
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Capitol Armory?
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My LGS had it in stock. They do the Silencer Shop thing.. of which I’ve used in the past.
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12/30/2024 10:06:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MackDaddy1962:

My LGS had it in stock. They do the Silencer Shop thing.. of which I've used in the past.
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Ahhhh. I've got a local shop that rolls their own so it's super fast, especially once you are setup with them. Like walk in, pay, certified in a half hour. My last one was CA home delivery since my dealer doesn't have Diligent Defense. The wait was painful with how fast the approval was...
12/31/2024 11:04:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MackDaddy1962][Edited] [#33]
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Originally Posted By spyderboy03:
Ahhhh. I've got a local shop that rolls their own so it's super fast, especially once you are setup with them. Like walk in, pay, certified in a half hour. My last one was CA home delivery since my dealer doesn't have Diligent Defense. The wait was painful with how fast the approval was...
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Yeah, I've bought all my cans through my LGS. The last few were via the SS eForm. It's quick & painless. I just got my Doc-u-Sign stuff in my email this morning. So we're on our way. Happy day!!

Edit: All Doc-u-Sign stuff done. Should get called to certify today or Thursday (I don't know if my LGS is open tomorrow or not.) That's a painless process as well. I'm interested to see just how fast the new ATF approval system is. Hopefully fast. But I'm not holding my breath..

Edit II: And, we're certified!
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12/31/2024 9:09:28 PM EDT
[#34]
Ordered 3 different loads to try out.  So just 60rds.

Got a box of:
aac 115 Sierra jhp
aac saber black tip 110s
aac 110 vmax

gonna check for accuracy at 100yds.  Then depending  what groups well I'll order a case.
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1/1/2025 11:54:19 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By metalsaber:
Ordered 3 different loads to try out.  So just 60rds.

Got a box of:
aac 115 Sierra jhp
aac saber black tip 110s
aac 110 vmax

gonna check for accuracy at 100yds.  Then depending  what groups well I'll order a case.
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Sweet. Keep us posted on what you find.
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1/1/2025 12:02:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: stiglitz_actual][Edited] [#36]
I picked up one of the WC barrels from CTD and the gas port has burrs in it and the port is very rough inside the barrel
Easy to cleanup myself but I wonder if these were blems or some other issue and that's why CTD cleared them out. Anyone else's CTD barrel look like this?

I don't have a bore scope but here's a couple potato phone pics




1/1/2025 12:39:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By metalsaber:
Ordered 3 different loads to try out.  So just 60rds.

Got a box of:
aac 115 Sierra jhp
aac saber black tip 110s
aac 110 vmax

gonna check for accuracy at 100yds.  Then depending  what groups well I'll order a case.
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Definitely let us know. I was really looking at those Sabre Black Tips. Some gel tests looked promising and they're cheap.
1/1/2025 12:53:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By stiglitz_actual:
I picked up one of the WC barrels from CTD and the gas port has burrs in it and the port is very rough inside the barrel
Easy to cleanup myself but I wonder if these were blems or some other issue and that's why CTD cleared them out. Anyone else's CTD barrel look like this?

I don't have a bore scope but here's a couple potato phone pics
https://distortion.io/i/IMG_0501.jpeg
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My gas port looked clean to me.
1/1/2025 2:08:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MackDaddy1962][Edited] [#39]
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Originally Posted By stiglitz_actual:
I picked up one of the WC barrels from CTD and the gas port has burrs in it and the port is very rough inside the barrel
Easy to cleanup myself but I wonder if these were blems or some other issue and that's why CTD cleared them out. Anyone else's CTD barrel look like this?

I don't have a bore scope but here's a couple potato phone pics
https://distortion.io/i/IMG_0501.jpeg
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Ooh, that sucks. I guess I need to take a peek down my barrel to take a look. I didn't see any crap like that when I look at the gas port from the outside. I got mine (drop shipped) direct from WC though..

Edit: Just took a peek-a-boo at mine. Don't see anything like that. It's actually SHINY as can be all the way down.

Edit II: Hmm, it's so shiny and smooth I can't even see the gas port inside the bore! I'm sure it's drilled all the way through, but I'll be damned if I can see it. Lol!
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1/1/2025 2:25:02 PM EDT
[#40]
I bore scoped mine when installing my gas block and mine was clean.
I bought all this equipment. What do you mean that the dead AREN'T coming back to life?
1/2/2025 2:11:22 PM EDT
[#41]
Holy Crap! New can got approved in 2 days! With a holiday in there too..

That, is truly amazing. Off to the gun shop we go..
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1/2/2025 2:43:57 PM EDT
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Holy Crap! New can got approved in 2 days! With a holiday in there too..

That, is truly amazing. Off to the gun shop we go..
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1/2/2025 4:37:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MackDaddy1962][Edited] [#43]
Naked can



All dressed up, ready to party. SiCo flat cap & ECCO Plan A Ti HUB



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1/2/2025 10:11:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MackDaddy1962:
Naked can

https://media.fotki.com/2v2ZaoncCx9T3R.jpg

All dressed up, ready to party. SiCo flat cap & ECCO Plan A Ti HUB

https://media.fotki.com/2v2ZaonwLx9T3R.jpg

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Sweet!

I looked down my barrel today. I can clearly see that the gas port is between grooves. It has some lint out something on it, so I ran a bore snake through it. Cleaned right up. The gas port didn't look like it has perfect edges, but it did on the outside of the barrel. Hopefully I'll get it out to rezero in the next 2 weeks or so.
1/3/2025 12:35:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MackDaddy1962][Edited] [#45]
Weighed the anchor brake for giggles. Slightly heavier than the "flatty."



Can mounted up! Looks good, feels great. Nice balance. I'll get a complete weight when my granddaughter isn't here. She takes all of Papa's time right now..



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1/3/2025 6:56:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MackDaddy1962][Edited] [#46]
From 6lb 6.65oz with the Rugged Obsidian 9 Short, to 6lb 7.1oz with the Scythe



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1/4/2025 12:52:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MackDaddy1962][Edited] [#47]
Just a small update on observation after getting the new can. Looks like the Griffin mini flash hider @ 1.8" (46mm) OAL is a bit too long for the new setup. Using the ECCO HUB mount the depth from blast baffle center cone area to the rear mount flange is ~ 44.5mm. Granted, Griffin MD's dont seat all the way flush with the rear of the HUB mount (it leaves approx 1mm exposed) but it's too close for comfort on being an interference for me.

I've seated, and removed the can several dozen times now. There's never been any indication of contact between the MD tines and the blast baffle center cone area. But, it's got to be close. Like 2-3 sheets of paper close.

No. It may very well want to clock even tighter after some use, and that's not good. I can reference where the can clocks, as the engraving on the can is right about 11:59 (the Silencer Co logo engraving.) That worked out great anyway..

I tighten as much as I feel comfortable doing so every time I mount it, and it comes right back to the same spot. But, again, after some use it may very well clock further tight. That's a "negative ghost rider, the pattern is full."

So, my dumbass will need to swap the MD. I just now opted for the Griffin EZ-brake from Hansohn Brothers (little cheaper on price, free ship.) Gotta love that.

Weight penalty between the 2 is moot, about .3oz. Whatever. It is however considerably shorter. Stated OAL @ ~36mm. That will work much better.

It's a shame as the Rugged Obsidian 9 had plenty of room to use the mini flash hider. Fudge!

Ramble off, carry on
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1/4/2025 1:21:03 PM EDT
[#48]
And, for grins I weighed the can with the anchor brake installed. Note: None of the tools work to tighten it other than the spanner. The "spanner handle" method they show in the videos won't fit in the radial slots. Really? Whatever.. learn something new every day

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1/4/2025 11:25:14 PM EDT
[#49]
Ran another 90 rounds at our local night shoot.  Ran flawless.
I bought all this equipment. What do you mean that the dead AREN'T coming back to life?
1/5/2025 10:58:56 AM EDT
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Ran another 90 rounds at our local night shoot.  Ran flawless.
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Sweet. Subs or supers?

What can are you running? Excuse my old age if you've posted this previously..
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