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12/21/2016 12:23:35 AM EDT
Need
Rainier Arms SWITCH KeyMod .308 Rail 14" https://www.rainierarms.com/rainier-arms-switch-308-rail-14
PRSĀ® Precision-Adjustable Stock SR25/M110 or MBA1 http://www.luth-ar.com/product-category/buttstocks/mba-1/
Geiselle SD-E https://geissele.com/super-dynamic-enhanced-trigger.html
Aero Precision's M5 Upper Receiver http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&pw=55963&ctc=ix1e56wuuo00zk8a02gtd&mi=13601&url=http%3A%2F%2Faeroprecisionusa.com%2Fm5-receiver-set.html
Aero Precision's M5 Lower Receiver http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&pw=55963&ctc=ix1e56wuuo00zk8a02gtd&mi=13601&url=http%3A%2F%2Faeroprecisionusa.com%2Fm5-receiver-set.html
AXTS 7.62 Charging Handle https://radianweapons.com/catalog/product/view/id/57/category/4/
MOD FSC30 https://primaryweapons.com/store/product/flash-suppressing-compensator/ or Fortis Rev Brake 7.62 http://fortismfg.com/ar10-fortis-red-brake-762-nitride-rapid-engagement-device
JP Barrel http://jprifles.com/buy.php?item=JPSM308-18L11R
JP BCG http://jprifles.com/buy.php?item=JPBC-5AHP#

Still looking
Barrel nut - ?
Gas Block - Geissele Super Gas Block (Nitride Black)
Gas Tube - Rainier Rifle Length Gas Tube
Muzzle - MOD FSC30 or Fortis Rev Brake 7.62
Buttstock - Magpul PRS Adj  or Luth-AR MBA1
Buffer+Spring - ?
Iron sights - KAC Micro BUIS
12/21/2016 10:39:17 AM EDT
[#1]
AR 10 variants have quite a few differences between different brands.Ā  Different companies have different buffer systems, gas tube lengths, barrel nuts, upper heights and other various differences.Ā  I'll try to go over your parts list and make a few comments.
12/21/2016 10:59:04 AM EDT
[#2]
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Need
Barrel nut - Need suggestions. Preferably a black nitride, strong, branded barrel nut. If you use the M5E1 upper it uses a proprietary barrel nut for it's proprietary rail.
Gas Block - Does Geiselle make .308 gas blocks? Standard diameter ar15 gas blocks fit, the model will depend on the contour of the barrel you choose.
Gas Tube - Guessing these are generic depending on length, rifle length gas tube I am assuming? I am looking for a 18-18.5' barrel. There are two rifle length tubes, most follow the DPMS pattern that uses AR15 tubes.Ā  Armalite uses a longer tube for rifle length gas systems and mounts their gas block about .5" farter down the barrel on rifle systems.
Trigger - American Trigger Gold Flat Trigger .308 variation (are triggers interchangeable in between 223 and 308?) Today most AR10 variants are designed to use AR15 pattern triggers, occasionally their are issues like PSA lowers not working with Geissele triggers without some modification to the hammer.
Muzzle - MOD FSC30 OR Fortis Rev Brake 7.62 Most 7.62 or 308 breaks are threaded 5/8x24, just make sure the threads are the same between your barrel and muzzle device.
Buttstock - Magpul PRS Adj  vs MBA1 http://www.luth-ar.com/product-category/buttstocks/mba-1/ DPMS and Armalite use standard AR15 buttstocks, a shortened rifle buffer tube and a similar rifle buffer spring.Ā  Armalite uses the same spring between rifle and carbine applications.Ā  DPMS uses a special shortened buffer and buffer spring in carbine applications.Ā  DPMS uses AR15 carbine buffer tubes while Armalite uses a lengthened buffer tube for their carbines. I like the PRS better than the MBA.
BCG - Have not looked at any yet, need recommendations, digging the Gold F1 Firearms 308/7.62 BCG JP high pressure bolts are the best. Just make sure your bolt and bolt carrier come from the same company.Ā  If you get a Krieger barrel, you will pull the bolt down and send it to them, then they will headspace your custom barrel to it.
Buffer+Spring - Are these interchangeable? If they are I'm thinking of getting the Damage Industries H6 again or Geiselle's Buffer, Spring kit.Ā You need a buffer tube, spring and buffer that all match your chosen butt stock.Ā I like Sprinco springs. Geiselle's kit probably wouldn't work very well. You could use an H6 if you were using an armaliteĀ carbine tube, but I think theĀ stocks you have listed both use rifle buffer tubes.Ā 
Upper/Lower Receiver - I want to go with Aero Precision's M5E1  because I really like the design and they are cheap, hopefully good quality!Ā  I like my Aero M5's, I haven't used the M5E1's but they are for use with the specialized Aero rail and barrel nut system.Ā  Personally I would go standard Aero M5 and then pick a rail that matches the M5's DPMS high pattern upper rail (.210 rail height).Ā 
Rail - Rainier Arms Switch Rail hFortis Rev Switch rail too, but I like the cut by the muzzle on the Rainier's. This won't work with the M5E1 but would work with the M5.Ā  SLR has a lot of nice rails for .308's as well.Ā  Generally I'm a little budget minded so I use Midwest Industries 15" Mlok rails on my M5's.
Charging Handle - AXTS 7.62 I like these.
Barrel - Here is the part where I am most confused about, I am looking into Krieger, Criterion or Noveske. I want a 18-18.5' barrel, I have no idea how to order through Krieger, its hard to find a Noveske Krieger has a form you fill out then they contact you to make sure it's what you wanted.Ā  Delivery can take several months but they make great barrels.
Iron sights - KAC Micro BUIS
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Hope this helps, I'll try to stop back by with some links to parts I would recommend in a little while.
12/21/2016 11:23:27 AM EDT
[#3]
308 builds require a bit more research/homework.

The barrel nut will depend on your choice of rail (in the case of the Fortis rails you mention, you must use their barrel nut).

Gas blocks are interchangeable between 556/308 and will be dictated by the diameter of the gas block seat on the barrel you choose.  I highly recommend SLR Rifleworks adjustable gas blocks.  

Triggers are also interchangeable between 556/308, as are gas tubes (but double check with Aero's specs for the tube, as there are some variances out there). I recommend Geissele triggers.

Buffer and spring is where you need to be diligent about compatability.  

For your listed components you will need a rifle-length buffer tube (such as an A2) and a DPMS/AR308 type spring and buffer.  Do not choose parts for Armalite/AR10.  

I like the JP silent captured spring for 308.
12/21/2016 3:18:31 PM EDT
[#4]
Here is my recommended parts list based on your original list:

Barrel Krieger:https://www.kriegerbarrels.com/srorder?se=15264254591482345213kbiprod&gun=4&cont=4&cal=2&twis=100&mat=1&fit=1#srservices
BCG JP FMOS Carrier Group with High Pressure JP EnhancedBolt http://jprifles.com/1.4.7_FMOS.php
Upper Aero M5 http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&pw=55963&ctc=iwzbo7xmi700zk8a00y51&mi=10077&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Frifle-parts%2Freceiver-parts%2Freceivers%2Fupper-receivers%2F308-ar-m5-upper-receiver-prod71789.aspx
Lower Aero M5 http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&pw=55963&ctc=iwzbo7yvab00zk8a00y51&mi=10077&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Frifle-parts%2Freceiver-parts%2Freceivers%2Flower-receivers%2F308-ar-m5-lower-receiver-prod71464.aspx
Handguard Fortis 15" DPMS high pattern rail https://dsgarms.com/frtswitch
Stock Magpul 308 PRS http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&pw=55963&ctc=iwzbo80dpb00zk8a00y51&mi=10077&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Frifle-parts%2Fstock-parts%2Fbuttstocks%2Far-308-prs-stock-collapsible-a2-length-prod72288.aspx
Buffer tube Colt http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&pw=55963&ctc=iwzbo81rkd00zk8a00y51&mi=10077&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Frifle-parts%2Freceiver-parts%2Fbuffer-tube-parts%2Fbuffer-tubes%2Far15a4-receiver-extension-prod4857.aspx
Buffer Armalite rifle buffer https://dsgarms.com/armea1090
Spring Sprinco Red Spring http://www.rogtac.com/tactical-springs-sprinco-ar-carbine-and-rifle-buffer-springs-single-spring/
Lower Parts Kit M5 308 LPK http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&pw=55963&ctc=iwzbo8377t00zk8a02gtd&mi=13601&url=http%3A%2F%2Faeroprecisionusa.com%2Fm5-308-lower-parts-kit.html
Trigger 308 AR gold http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&pw=55963&ctc=iwzbo84pwt00zk8a00y51&mi=10077&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Frifle-parts%2Ftriggers-parts%2Ftriggers%2F308-ar-sr-gold-trigger-prod45085.aspx
Grip 308 MIAD http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&pw=55963&ctc=iwzbo8643y00zk8a00y51&mi=10077&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Frifle-parts%2Fgrip-parts%2Fpistol-grips%2Far-308-miad-gen-1-1-grip-kit-prod72624.aspx
Gas block Superlative Arms .936 http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&pw=55963&ctc=iwzbo87lyx00zk8a00y51&mi=10077&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Frifle-parts%2Fgas-system-parts%2Fgas-blocks%2Far-15-adjustable-gas-block-936-solid-prod86819.aspx
Gas tube Spikes Rifle length http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&pw=55963&ctc=iwzbo88xwe00zk8a00y51&mi=10077&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Frifle-parts%2Fgas-system-parts%2Fgas-tubes%2Far-15-gas-tube-melonite-prod44888.aspx
Charging Handle 308 Raptor http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&pw=55963&ctc=iwzbo8aa3k00zk8a00y51&mi=10077&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Frifle-parts%2Fbolt-parts%2Fcharging-handle-parts%2Fcharging-handles%2Far-308-raptor-charging-handle-7-62-prod78006.aspx

Your preference of 7.62 muzzle devices
Sling Short Action Precision positional shooting sling https://www.triadtactical.com/SAP-Positional-Rifle-Sling.html


A few notes on this list.Ā  I listed the Superlative Arms .936 adjustable gas block as most Krieger barrels are cut for a .936 gas block. SLR also makes an excellent gas block that you might prefer.Ā  Whichever route you end up going, you need to order the correct diameter gas block to match the diameter of the barrel you end up ordering.

The 308 AR gold probably comes with a slightly heavier hammer spring than the standard AR gold trigger.

I listed a Colt AR15 buffer tube because to my knowledge they are the only company making them from 7075 T6.Ā  Other rifle buffer tubes for AR15's will work with this setup but the Colt is stronger.

Aero M5's use longer pins than DPMS lower parts, you will definitely want the Aero specific 308 parts to finish out your lower.Ā  I got tired of waiting on them to come back in stock and I bought an AR15 LPK and then ordered the specific Aero 308 parts that are different.Ā  IIRC it is the Bolt Catch, takedown pin, pivot pin and extended magazine catch.

SLR makes a lot of nice rails, I would probably go that route over a Fortis, but get whatever model you like best.

Hope this helps.
12/21/2016 4:01:47 PM EDT
[#5]
jaqufrost you are the best! Thank you so much, I wanted to get Krieger but sending them parts and what not seem like a hassle especially if it takes a couple of months, any other recommendations?
12/21/2016 4:05:58 PM EDT
[#6]
You might just get a barrel and BCG from JP.Ā  They have excellent barrels.
12/21/2016 4:11:41 PM EDT
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You might just get a barrel and BCG from JP.Ā  They have excellent barrels.
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Here is what I have for barrel; http://jprifles.com/buy.php?item=JPSM308-18L11R what is a thermal dissipator or case gauge? Do I need those?

This is the BCG I found from JP; http://jprifles.com/buy.php?item=JPBC-5AHP

What else can I get from them?

Btw thanks for showing me JP, they have a lot of great stuff!
12/21/2016 4:24:28 PM EDT
[#8]
The thermal dissipator is an aluminum heat sink that goes over their barrels.Ā  Supposed to really help with cooling without adding much weight.Ā  It will shoot fine without it but it certainly won't hurt anything to use it. Here is whatĀ their dissipator looks like. http://jprifles.com/1.4.5_hs.php

That barrel comes with a bolt, so you won't need a full bcg, just the carrier, cam pin, firing pin and firing pin retainer. Here is the carrier by itself http://jprifles.com/buy.php?item=JPBC-5
Here is the matching firing pin http://jprifles.com/buy.php?item=JPFP-308HPĀ  Here is a cam pin, firing pin and key retainer combo, but it's the wrong firing pin for the enhanced bolt. http://jprifles.com/buy.php?item=BC-PINS-308

You might call them and place your order over the phone, see if they can provide all the right parts without any extras.

They also make some nice muzzle brakes, low mass carriers and silent captured spring systems.Ā  I'm not willing to pay the extra for the silent capture spring system, I'm pretty happy with Sprinco springs.

The case gauge is for reloaders to make sure their brass is perfectly sized.
12/21/2016 4:46:44 PM EDT
[#9]
Just remembered, if you really want to go all out, Proof Research has carbon fiber wrapped barrels that are very nice.
http://proofresearch.com/the-products/barrels/ar-carbon-fiber-barrel-calibers-lengths/
12/21/2016 9:49:12 PM EDT
[#10]
I like the stainless steel barrels! But good looking out :D

Btw, how do you know its the wrong firing pin?
12/23/2016 10:40:15 AM EDT
[#11]
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Need
Rainier Arms SWITCH KeyMod .308 Rail 14" https://www.rainierarms.com/rainier-arms-switch-308-rail-14
PRSĀ® Precision-Adjustable Stock SR25/M110 or MBA1 http://www.luth-ar.com/product-category/buttstocks/mba-1/
Geiselle SD-E https://geissele.com/super-dynamic-enhanced-trigger.html
Aero Precision's M5E1 Upper Receiver http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&pw=55963&ctc=ix1e56wuuo00zk8a02gtd&mi=13601&url=http%3A%2F%2Faeroprecisionusa.com%2Fm5-receiver-set.html Technically this is an M5 receiver not an M5E1. Ā It's the correct model you need for the Rainier Arms Switch rail you listed above.
Aero Precision's M5E1 Lower Receiver http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&pw=55963&ctc=ix1e56wuuo00zk8a02gtd&mi=13601&url=http%3A%2F%2Faeroprecisionusa.com%2Fm5-receiver-set.html
AXTS 7.62 Charging Handle https://radianweapons.com/catalog/product/view/id/57/category/4/
MOD FSC30 https://primaryweapons.com/store/product/flash-suppressing-compensator/ or Fortis Rev Brake 7.62 http://fortismfg.com/ar10-fortis-red-brake-762-nitride-rapid-engagement-device
JP Barrel http://jprifles.com/buy.php?item=JPSM308-18L11R
JP BCG http://jprifles.com/buy.php?item=JPBC-5AHP#

Still looking
Barrel nut - ? The Fortis/Rainier Switch rail comes with the barrel nut you need.
Gas Block - Geissele Super Gas Block (Nitride Black)
Gas Tube - Rainier Rifle Length Gas Tube
Muzzle - MOD FSC30 or Fortis Rev Brake 7.62
Buttstock - Magpul PRS Adj  or Luth-AR MBA1
Buffer+Spring - ? I like the Armalite 308 rifle buffer and Sprinco Red spring.
Iron sights - KAC Micro BUIS
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You will need a Lower Parts kit.Ā http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&pw=55963&ctc=ix1wm2r2ef00zk8a02gtd&mi=13601&url=http%3A%2F%2Faeroprecisionusa.com%2Fm5-308-enhanced-lower-parts-kit.html
You will also need the upper completion parts.Ā http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&pw=55963&ctc=ix1wm2say600zk8a02gtd&mi=13601&url=http%3A%2F%2Faeroprecisionusa.com%2Fm5-308-ejection-port-cover-kit.html andĀ http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&pw=55963&ctc=ix1wm2uh0700zk8a02gtd&mi=13601&url=http%3A%2F%2Faeroprecisionusa.com%2Fforward-assist-assembly-kit.html

That combination should get you up and running.
12/23/2016 8:53:54 PM EDT
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jaqufrost you are the best! Thank you so much, I wanted to get Krieger but sending them parts and what not seem like a hassle especially if it takes a couple of months, any other recommendations?
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Fulton Armory sells Krieger barrels with no wait. They also sell the JP BCG's you're looking at, at a lower price than JP last I checked. If you buy a bolt and barrel from them they will verify headspace as well so there will be no need to send anything in.
12/23/2016 10:50:46 PM EDT
[#13]
Awesome Information!! Thanks man!!! If what you say is true I am 1000% purchasing from them.

Edit: good and bad news! They have krieger barrels ready to ship! But out of JP BCGs! :( which makes me worried about the headspacing:/
12/23/2016 11:39:57 PM EDT
[#14]
Sorry I tried. Maybe give them a call and see when they expect more in stock?
12/23/2016 11:41:51 PM EDT
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Sorry I tried. Maybe give them a call and see when they expect more in stock?
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I appreciate all the help I can get! Its not your fault, thanks for the heads up with the krieger barrel, I want one so bad, I might have to see if a local gunsmith can headspace it whatever that means!
12/24/2016 1:26:47 AM EDT
[#16]
Krieger headspaces their barrels for std. USGI bolts. No worries there.
12/24/2016 2:19:42 PM EDT
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Krieger headspaces their barrels for std. USGI bolts. No worries there.
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Does the bolt I want follow under those guidelines? http://jprifles.com/buy.php?item=JPBC-5AHP#
12/24/2016 2:44:35 PM EDT
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Hard to do much more than speculate at this point with the holiday and businesses closed and unable to take calls on technical questions. Not sure if Krieger headspaces all DPMS style barrels the same, but my barrels all headspaced to JP HP bolts.
12/24/2016 3:58:39 PM EDT
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Hard to do much more than speculate at this point with the holiday and businesses closed and unable to take calls on technical questions. Not sure if Krieger headspaces all DPMS style barrels the same, but my barrels all headspaced to JP HP bolts.
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What barrel do you use?
12/24/2016 9:24:26 PM EDT
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What barrel do you use?
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I thought I'd mentioned it previously but I must be thinking of another thread. I bought one Krieger from Fulton in 6.5CM which is istalled in an upper, and two more 6.5CM barrels from Krieger direct that are uninstalled replacement barrels. All are 22" and .936 at the gas block and all are headspaced to different JP HP bolts.
12/24/2016 9:29:51 PM EDT
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I thought I'd mentioned it previously but I must be thinking of another thread. I bought one Krieger from Fulton in 6.5CM which is istalled in an upper, and two more 6.5CM barrels from Krieger direct that are uninstalled replacement barrels. All are 22" and .936 at the gas block and all are headspaced to different JP HP bolts.
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This might be a stupid question but will these barrel work; http://www.fulton-armory.com/barrelkrieger22nmmedwtss1x12dmr-1.aspx

It's under M14/M1A so I'm trying to see if that is even any difference if it will suffice for an AR10
12/24/2016 10:57:30 PM EDT
[#22]
That one won't work, any of these barrels should work.
http://www.fulton-armory.com/far-308-barrels.aspx
12/24/2016 11:06:28 PM EDT
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That one won't work, any of these barrels should work.
http://www.fulton-armory.com/far-308-barrels.aspx
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Damn, back to JP 18" since there's only a 20" Krieger.
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