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10/27/2016 4:49:08 PM EDT
Does anyone sell a barrel and bolt combo? I know Wilson has the build kit but I'm looking for a barrel and bolt combo. Who makes quality barrels
10/27/2016 4:53:12 PM EDT
[#1]
I'd go with Tromix.

458 Parts
10/27/2016 6:29:04 PM EDT
[#2]
Fantastic choices. Thank you. What's the shortest/sweet spot barrel length for the 458. I know 16" 1/14 is common but what's good for sbr. I have registered lowers so I was thinking of going sbr
10/27/2016 6:41:14 PM EDT
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Fantastic choices. Thank you. What's the shortest/sweet spot barrel length for the 458. I know 16" 1/14 is common but what's good for sbr. I have registered lowers so I was thinking of going sbr
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I'd like to know myself... getting one of those barrel/bolt combos is on my short list. In fact, after I sent you the link, I was wondering the same thing myself.

I'm sure some experienced SOCOM folks will be by shortly to tell us both the pros/cons of the barrel lengths offered.

I have a Beowulf, but really want a SOCOM in .458 or .375
10/27/2016 7:58:41 PM EDT
[#4]
I am in the process of putting together a 10.5" Tromix in pistol form. I'm sure Big Bore will be along to give real numbers, but last I saw him post, he said there isn't a huge drop in fps from the 16" to the 10.5".
10/28/2016 12:05:50 AM EDT
[#5]
I was leaning towards the 12". I have 9.5" 300blk 10.5" 5.56 so 12" 458 made sense
10/28/2016 12:09:00 AM EDT
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12" is considered the "sweet" spot but the 16 is what most of us have to use.  Don't gain much after the 16" mark and gain slightly over the 12.  If you have an SBR you can drop a 12" on then even better.  I have a 16" carbine and a 10.5" pistol.  They both shoot great.  

Tromix is the way to go for sure!!
10/28/2016 8:02:54 AM EDT
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12" is considered the "sweet" spot but the 16 is what most of us have to use.  Don't gain much after the 16" mark and gain slightly over the 12.  If you have an SBR you can drop a 12" on then even better.  I have a 16" carbine and a 10.5" pistol.  They both shoot great.  

Tromix is the way to go for sure!!
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I'll be getting a 12" then...
10/28/2016 8:21:35 AM EDT
[#8]
Agree, TROMIX is the dealer you should buy from and 12 inches is the length.  Between 12 and 20 inches there is less than 100 fps difference but below 12 you start losing velocity  faster.  My 10.5 inch is  slower than the 12 by about as much as the difference between a 12 and a 20 so I personally would not go shorter than 10.  Of the ones I have, the 12 is a perfect combination of velocity and handiness although I am really fond of the 10.5 also if you are not trying wring every fps out of the rifle.  The 14s are just not shorter enough than the 16s to make it worth having a stamp and a 20 is just wasted added weight and brings nothing to the table over the 16s.
10/28/2016 8:32:34 AM EDT
[#9]
Love my Tromix 10.5"! Can't go wrong with his 458 stuff.
10/28/2016 3:00:01 PM EDT
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Agree, TROMIX is the dealer you should buy from and 12 inches is the length.  Between 12 and 20 inches there is less than 100 fps difference but below 12 you start losing velocity  faster.  My 10.5 inch is  slower than the 12 by about as much as the difference between a 12 and a 20 so I personally would not go shorter than 10.  Of the ones I have, the 12 is a perfect combination of velocity and handiness although I am really fond of the 10.5 also if you are not trying wring every fps out of the rifle.  The 14s are just not shorter enough than the 16s to make it worth having a stamp and a 20 is just wasted added weight and brings nothing to the table over the 16s.
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Thanks so much. 12" it is. Second question. The sbr lower I'd use this on currently has a sprinco blue and h2 buffer since the main upper for that is a 9.5" 300blk. Will I have any issues with this combo?
10/28/2016 4:31:07 PM EDT
[#11]
Hard saying not knowing.  16s do best with standard buffers and springs but I use HBs in my SBRs with standard springs.  YMMV.  The only way to know for sure is to try it out.  IMO always start with standard and adjust as needed.  In my 3 .458 SBRs I got ejector swipes with standard buffers, not related to high pressure, and a HB solved the problem.   The two 16s and the 20 use standard buffers.
10/30/2016 9:55:56 PM EDT
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Is ordering direct from tromix the best price?
10/31/2016 8:12:07 AM EDT
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I think the only way to get tromix is to order direct.
11/3/2016 4:58:47 PM EDT
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Guess I'll order it from them
11/3/2016 10:50:30 PM EDT
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You shouldn't be disappointed. I have not dealt direct with them, but have a coworker who has. He had nothing be positive things to say.
11/6/2016 2:47:00 PM EDT
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Has anyone used the Wilson Combat kits?

http://shopwilsoncombat.com/458-SOCOM/products/438/
11/6/2016 4:51:30 PM EDT
[#17]
They use the knock-off PTG reamer though, not the true spec reamer like TROMIX.
11/6/2016 6:12:53 PM EDT
[#18]
I was thinking about using their muzzle brake with blast cap
11/6/2016 6:49:00 PM EDT
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If you want a WC muzzle brake, I'll sell you one cheap. Just send me an IM.
11/6/2016 8:35:08 PM EDT
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Verify the threads on the WC brake.  They were using a proprietary  thread on their barrels.
11/6/2016 11:29:27 PM EDT
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Verify the threads on the WC brake.  They were using a proprietary  thread on their barrels.
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Thanks for that. They are different.
11/9/2016 5:40:09 PM EDT
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Anyone have a Radical firearms 458 with a 10." barrel?  Primary has it on sale for $ 399
10.5" 458
11/9/2016 8:37:29 PM EDT
[#23]
My Tromix light weight 16.5 is silly accurate. I really like that gun.
11/10/2016 1:07:37 AM EDT
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They do not use an autheorized reamer.  I have heard of some problems with the radical firearms barrels in 458s.  It may cost a couple hundred more but I would go with tromix.   I did 2x with my 16.25 and 10.5" barrels.  Run like tops.
11/10/2016 12:55:41 PM EDT
[#25]
I'll post another for Tromix barrels/bolts. I have a 10.5" and it's very accurate.
12/2/2016 4:01:37 PM EDT
[#26]
I am running the Radical Firearms 16" .458 and love it.  I do have an occasional issue with a loaded cartridge sticking in the chamber (i.e. I go to eject it with the charging handle and it takes grabbing with 2 hands).  I have never had an issue with a spent cartridge ejecting though.  I have noticed when I first received the upper, I had to lock and load with the charging handle full rack, vice releasing the bolt when locked to the rear.  It seems to be loosening up as I have put a little over 200 rounds through it and as I said love it.  

I bought the Black Butterfly 100 rds variety pack, the BB 100 rds 300 grain Lead Free Frangible CTX Migration, and the Southern Ballistic Research (SBR) 300 grain JHP.  Those are the commercial rounds I have used so far and they worked fine.  I now still have some of the variety pack, but I have started reloading.

I set my Aimpoint PRO up for 100 yds and moved to the 200/300/600 yd targets on Range 1 at the Talledega CMP range.  I had great groups out to 300 yds using Barnes TTSX and a couple of other rounds, all 250-300 grain.
12/2/2016 4:02:11 PM EDT
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My reloads so far are using Lil Gun powder, Nosler 300 grain Ball Silvertip (27 grain), 250 Grain Hornady Polymer Tip Monoflex (35 grain), and Sierra 300 grain HP Pro Hunters (35 grain).  I have shot about 50 each of the Nosler and Hornady and they performed well.  Chronograph for the Nosler was 1946/1946/1981/1999/1996/1984 fps.  Don't know how reliable the data was as it was my buddies who was having a few issues with it that day.  I have only shot about 6 quick rounds before it down poured on me on another range and day so I packed it up.  I started below what I felt was maximum loads, that was based on some of the info I have found out here on the forums.  Nosler has a table posted, but not using Lil Gun.  I did get 1 round of data for another 4-5 types of rounds in my commercially purchased variety pack, but I do not have the data with me.

I took a deer the other day at 75 yds with the Barnes TTSX and it dropped like a rock with a neck shot exiting the eye socket (that was a little messy), also a fragment that went right and crossed to the other side, went down the ribs and exited halfway down.  I went for the neck as I did not know how that round would tear up the deer.  Didn't want to liquify any internals.
12/2/2016 8:44:47 PM EDT
[#28]
will tromix pin a brake on a 14" barrel ? looking at one of the 14" barrels and his brake

12/3/2016 1:30:58 AM EDT
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Call Tony and ask him.  He does  a lot of great work.
12/3/2016 12:00:31 PM EDT
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I know this company may be a sponsor, but the truth hurts.  I would steer away from buying this kit from Wilson Combat.  I am from Arkansas and want to spend money with a local company, but customer service is customer service.

I ordered the 458 Combos set over two months ago - the site DID NOT show it was backordered.  I asked the status very politely at 1 month the status, was it backordered, and when can I expect it.  All they returned is they are having some barrel issues, and they had orders in front of me.  At 2 months, I asked politely again the status and what number they are on and what number I am...Same response as the first - Vague.  If the company can't at least tell you the order status to some finite detail, then they won't be in business long.

I logged on today, and the status has changed.  All my order information (what I ordered) is deleted, but it still shows my billing information and the charge - Disturbing. My account hasn't been charged, and I have no e-mails of shipping or tracking.  I have contacted them for a 3rd time, and I am waiting to hear what they have going on.  However, I am not happy, and I am going to cancel this order if they haven't shipped.

Reamer issues or not, I would NOT recommend anyone purchase ANYTHING from Wilson Combat from my experience alone.  Not a fan!

Tromix was the preferred barrel when I researched, and I will be purchasing from them as soon as I see a cancellation order from Wilson Combat.

HerkNav90
12/6/2016 10:00:38 PM EDT
[#31]
I ordered the barrel and bolt combo. 12"
12/6/2016 10:03:28 PM EDT
[#32]
Great choice
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