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Posted: 4/4/2016 5:36:21 PM EDT
| So I heard using a single stack follower will help with feeding problems. Whether or not it helps it certainly can't hurt, right? I've only been able to find one single stack follower on ebay. Is anybody out there using a ss follower or recommend a quality one? |
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There are no problems that a single stack follower will cure. If you have problems with a standard magazine, you have problems other than the follower. That is all bad information dreamed up by someone for God only knows what reason when the truth is, the .458 SOCOM was designed from the ground up to use standard 5.56 magazines without alteration. (the half-moon cuts most of us put in the front of the magazine does nothing to aid feeding, only makes unloading unfired rounds easier). That was true when it was designed and except for the abysmal P-Mags, it is still true today, some 15 years later. The need for a single stack follower is strictly a personal preference and there is zero basis for functional improvement. I think all this BS comes from where if you load the rounds in the magazine and remove them slowly by hand, the last round will get caught up under the feed lip and not center. IT doesn't freaking matter. First of all, live fire creates so much vibration that the last round WILL center up, and if it doesn't, it will still feed. Load on in that way into your mag, insert the mag, drop the bolt, and it chambers just fine.
Other people think that by using a single shot-sled-center feed follower that it does not allow 5.56 to be inserted into the mag. WRONG again. It will load and feed 5.56 just fine until the last two or three round then it will unload them all on you. The last reason is the pathological fear that if you do not have a mag that is not specialized for the .458 SOCOM that a game warden will bust you if you are hunting with a standard 5.56 mag in a .458 SOCOM rifle in a state that does not allow more than X number of rounds in the magazine. And since a standard 20R mag will hold 7 .458s but also hold 20 rounds of 5.56, you are in violation of the law. Nothing could be further from logical reasoning. The sane solution is not to carry any 5.56 rounds when deer hunting in those states and only carry the ammo you are hunting with, .458 SOCOM, but paranoia runs deep in some people and that's why tin-foil hats still sell so well. But, if you still much have a single shot/single stack/sled type follower, Midway, Fulton Armory, Brownells/Sinclair, Bushmaster, all sell them. |
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That was true when it was designed and except for the abysmal P-Mags, it is still true today, some 15 years later. . So I just ordered an RRA Tactical carbine upper in 458S. From what I've read Lancers and GI mags are the way to go, not that other mags don't work but these are the best. Is that correct? Thanks for the help |
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PRI 6.8 mags are my 458S "kill the wabbit" mags that I would take to Alaska for anything
while the job was to come back home. Plastic is for metros. Most frugal way to stack "come home" odds: A) http://www.44mag.com/product/nhmtg_20_ar15_magazine/nhmtg Okay's are less, NHMTG never let me down when it counted. B) actually depends on who/whom is a $1 cheaper BUTT!!! Labelle Ind mags is never a wrong answer. http://palmettostatearmory.com/d-h-5-56-30rd-aluminum-magazine-8416.html |
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I have not had any issues with feeding of the 458S. I did have an unburned powder issue which caused an issue one time with the REM 405FP. But this was not caused by a mag issue. The only mag issues I have had were with trying to use cheap polymer mags. The bulge too much to fit in the mag well. Good quality GI mags like stoner and most colts. The best ones I have found with Bog Bore's recommendation are the Lancers. They are very stout and hold the big cases without any issues whatsoever.
I ground of some of my double stack followers to make dedicated 5 round hunting mags. We are only allowed to have 5 rounds in semi autos while hunting. (Guess I am one of those with a "Pathological Fear") If you try really hard though you can load 556 in the single stack. The last two or three as BB mentioned will auto-eject causing a jam if used in a 556. The only thing that some of us do is cut a half moon in the front of the mag to allow for ease of unloading and it can help with feeding of heavy flat nosed bullets. This is not really necessary but makes life a little easier. Buy good quality mags and you will not have any issues from the authorized properly chambered 458S. |
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PRI 6.8 mags are my 458S "kill the wabbit" mags that I would take to Alaska for anything while the job was to come back home. Plastic is for metros. Most frugal way to stack "come home" odds: A) http://www.44mag.com/product/nhmtg_20_ar15_magazine/nhmtg Okay's are less, NHMTG never let me down when it counted. B) actually depends on who/whom is a $1 cheaper BUTT!!! Labelle Ind mags is never a wrong answer. http://palmettostatearmory.com/d-h-5-56-30rd-aluminum-magazine-8416.html I like your thinking. |
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"Plastic is for metros," spoken like a true ARFCOMer, if it is not what you are using then it's shit based on absolutely no FACTS at all.
The Lancers are my mag of choice also, especially the clear body mags. I do not tend to rotate mags and I have magazines that have literally thousands of .458 SOCOM through them, many hundreds of .475 TREMOR through them, and around 600 .375 SOCOMs through them and never, not once, has there ever been any kind of problem. They have been dropped, loaded and unloaded, numerous times (hey, I'm fumble fingered, what can I say) and have never cracked, bent, or anything else, just a few scuff marks. They just say to me, "Is that all you got old man?" I have had problems with 30R PRI mags in my 6.8s, and they are the mags used in a caliber that they were designed to be used in, so don't tell me they are infallible. However, they are what I use in my 6.8s and my many 6.8 wildcats because I can get a full 2.300 load length. They are a good magazine to consider too for the .458 for the same reason but you MIGHT have to adjust the feed lips, which is what I have had to do to every 30R PRI old smooth body mag I have purchased, which numbers over a dozen. The couple dozen 20R waffle PRI mags have been just fine, never needing anything. I have had problems with CP (NOT CPD) albeit minor ones like the old PRI-feed lip tweaking-and Pmags are useless in the calibers and bullets I shoot. But Lancers, IMO they are good to go and if you choose to half-moon the front of the mag for easier unloading unfired rounds, they are a snap. The metal mags are a PITA to cut the half moon in, especially the SS mags. |
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