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Posted: 1/31/2015 11:47:09 PM EDT
| New to building and want to build a 6.8 for my son. THere seems to be soooo many components that I have no idea what is good and bad. Not afraid to spend a little money but don't want to waste it either. Would like a 16 inch barrel with adjustable stock and two stage trigger wtih flat top. As far as upper and lower goes who should I get and who to stay away from? Internals, barrel etc. I am sure this gets asked a lot but would appreciate any help. |
| Hey congrats on building the AR. My 6.8 has been a wonderful deer rifle. ARP has great 6.8 barrels. Palmwtto state armory makes a good 6.8 complete upper too. AR triggers are AR triggers so there should be plenty of topics on them. Let me know if you have any specific questions. 6.8 is a great round and a wonderful deer round. |
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New to building and want to build a 6.8 for my son. THere seems to be soooo many components that I have no idea what is good and bad. Not afraid to spend a little money but don't want to waste it either. Would like a 16 inch barrel with adjustable stock and two stage trigger wtih flat top. As far as upper and lower goes who should I get and who to stay away from? Internals, barrel etc. I am sure this gets asked a lot but would appreciate any help. Get an AR Performance barrel and bolt. Any standard AR15 carrier or a chrome Young Manufacturing or Nibx WMD or Fail Zero if you want it to clean easier. For a cheaper but good quality forged upper and lower get a Aero Precision. For the best upper you can get get a Vltor Mur1A or Mega upper with any forged lower. For the best matched billet sets get Mega, Seekins or Northtech Defense For a trigger get a Gieselle SSA or SSA-E For a rail go with a MI, Samson, Fortis, or for a budget rail a UTG Pro series full float. Gas block, Syrac or Seekins adjustable Muzzle device AR Performance, Smith Vortex or BRT Covert Comp Sights, optics etc. your choice There are many choices, these I listed will treat you right. |
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Quoted: Get an AR Performance barrel and bolt. Any standard AR15 carrier or a chrome Young Manufacturing or Nibx WMD or Fail Zero if you want it to clean easier. For a cheaper but good quality forged upper and lower get a Aero Precision. For the best upper you can get get a Vltor Mur1A or Mega upper with any forged lower. For the best matched billet sets get Mega, Seekins or Northtech Defense For a trigger get a Gieselle SSA or SSA-E For a rail go with a MI, Samson, Fortis, or for a budget rail a UTG Pro series full float. Gas block, Syrac or Seekins adjustable Muzzle device AR Performance, Smith Vortex or BRT Covert Comp Sights, optics etc. your choice There are many choices, these I listed will treat you right. Quoted: Quoted: New to building and want to build a 6.8 for my son. THere seems to be soooo many components that I have no idea what is good and bad. Not afraid to spend a little money but don't want to waste it either. Would like a 16 inch barrel with adjustable stock and two stage trigger wtih flat top. As far as upper and lower goes who should I get and who to stay away from? Internals, barrel etc. I am sure this gets asked a lot but would appreciate any help. Get an AR Performance barrel and bolt. Any standard AR15 carrier or a chrome Young Manufacturing or Nibx WMD or Fail Zero if you want it to clean easier. For a cheaper but good quality forged upper and lower get a Aero Precision. For the best upper you can get get a Vltor Mur1A or Mega upper with any forged lower. For the best matched billet sets get Mega, Seekins or Northtech Defense For a trigger get a Gieselle SSA or SSA-E For a rail go with a MI, Samson, Fortis, or for a budget rail a UTG Pro series full float. Gas block, Syrac or Seekins adjustable Muzzle device AR Performance, Smith Vortex or BRT Covert Comp Sights, optics etc. your choice There are many choices, these I listed will treat you right. |
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Is this your fist AR? I would recommend your first AR be in 5.56 The only difference for 6.8 is barrel, bolt and magazines (and ammo of course). 68forums is the go to place for 6.8 SPC so 6.8 isn't newbie friendly ? Only thing different is the bolt and magazine. Otherwise same as every other AR. Yes, It's newbie friendly. They say get a 5.56 as your first to step into the AR field, so you can shoot cheap 5.56 ammo to practice with. |
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Definitely ARP barrel and super bolt. Do you reload? If not I recommend you to consider it to get the most out of the 6.8 SPC. If you don't reload at this time: http://www.shootersproshop.com |
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Definitely ARP barrel and super bolt. Do you reload? If not I recommend you to consider it to get the most out of the 6.8 SPC. If you don't reload at this time: http://www.shootersproshop.com I concur. ARP barrels and superbolts. |
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As mentioned, one of the great things about the AR 15 platform is the inter changeability of components. Take the basic 5.56. I can add a Magpul MOE or SRT stock, add buffer & spring on a lower with lower components. Then switch the 5.56 upper with a 6.8 or 6.5 or .50 Beowulf , even a .22LR upper with just by pulling & replacing 2 pins. and their mags. Less than a minute. Cool, Eh? So, like the others have said, Most components are the same as all other AR, except, Bolt (bolt carrier is the same as other ARs), Barrel & (muzzle device has to be 6.8 or above[mainly .308]) and 6.8 mags. ARP makes great barrels. Ironworks can put you an upper together. Mad Dog & Hamlund has components too. Other top 6.8 barrel are: Bison, Wilson Combat, BHW, PSA makes a fine barrel if you're on a budget. PS If you get an ARP barrel, clean barrel thoroughly inside to remove Salt bath residue before taking your first shots.Same with other Melonite/Nitrocarburized/Tenifer barrels.After that, clean the barrel as you normally do. Break in procedure are not really needed for melonited barrel. |
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I shoot service rifle matches with my ar so I am not new to them just never built one, had it done for me. I do of course reload. Want a rifle my son can handle and take deer hunting. Plus I scored over 400 rounds of 6.8 cheap. A lot of stuff to look over. Nice haul! What brand? If you shot service rifle matches - awesome! OK, then - You will be looking at ARP, Bison, Black Hole Weaponry & possibly Wilson Combat as your top shelf barrels. ARP barrels are Melonited. The rest are SS (with or without Cerekote). I'm sure you know quality triggers & free floating handguardsv & other components that are not 6.8 specific. |
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Is this your fist AR? I would recommend your first AR be in 5.56 The only difference for 6.8 is barrel, bolt and magazines (and ammo of course). 68forums is the go to place for 6.8 SPC so 6.8 isn't newbie friendly ? It's not the round it's the platform. The bulk of products and community knowledge is 5.56. The muzzle threads are 7.62 standard not 5.56 which can cause confusion to new owners. Ammo cost can be a detractor to some, as can ammo availability which although improving is no where that pervasive as 5.56. Some newbies in the interest of finding a "deal" get an old 6.8 barrel or a Model 1 barrel with the wrong specs. A first AR is a learning experience. You learn on a Ford not a Ferrari. Plus, everyone needs more than one AR 
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Nice haul! What brand? If you shot service rifle matches - awesome! OK, then - You will be looking at ARP, Bison, Black Hole Weaponry & possibly Wilson Combat as your top shelf barrels. ARP barrels are Melonited. The rest are SS (with or without Cerekote). I'm sure you know quality triggers & free floating handguardsv & other components that are not 6.8 specific. Quoted:
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I shoot service rifle matches with my ar so I am not new to them just never built one, had it done for me. I do of course reload. Want a rifle my son can handle and take deer hunting. Plus I scored over 400 rounds of 6.8 cheap. A lot of stuff to look over. Nice haul! What brand? If you shot service rifle matches - awesome! OK, then - You will be looking at ARP, Bison, Black Hole Weaponry & possibly Wilson Combat as your top shelf barrels. ARP barrels are Melonited. The rest are SS (with or without Cerekote). I'm sure you know quality triggers & free floating handguardsv & other components that are not 6.8 specific. Silver state and hornady. |
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+87 on the ARP recs. H makes great products and has great service, should you need it. The only problem is, H can't hardly keep products in stock, you pretty much have to check the website every day to see what he has available. Also, H is working on a new linear comp, looks kinda sexy. 
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+87 on the ARP recs. H makes great products and has great service, should you need it. The only problem is, H can't hardly keep products in stock, you pretty much have to check the website every day to see what he has available. Also, H is working on a new linear comp, looks kinda sexy.
http://i.imgur.com/XzqIzgL.jpg That does look nice.
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+87 on the ARP recs. H makes great products and has great service, should you need it. The only problem is, H can't hardly keep products in stock, you pretty much have to check the website every day to see what he has available. Also, H is working on a new linear comp, looks kinda sexy.
http://i.imgur.com/XzqIzgL.jpg That does look nice. ARP has a Sponsors section on the 6.8 Forums. He is a little more specific about what barrels he's getting in and when. I'd lurk there. I'm rebuilding my slush fund to get a 6.8 or his Six5 wildcat barrel and bolt. I have an ARP 5.56 barrel and Superbolt in AR#4. Excellent doesn't come close to describing how it shoots. |
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ARP has a Sponsors section on the 6.8 Forums. He is a little more specific about what barrels he's getting in and when. I'd lurk there. I'm rebuilding my slush fund to get a 6.8 or his Six5 wildcat barrel and bolt. I have an ARP 5.56 barrel and Superbolt in AR#4. Excellent doesn't come close to describing how it shoots. Quoted:
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+87 on the ARP recs. H makes great products and has great service, should you need it. The only problem is, H can't hardly keep products in stock, you pretty much have to check the website every day to see what he has available. Also, H is working on a new linear comp, looks kinda sexy.
http://i.imgur.com/XzqIzgL.jpg That does look nice. ARP has a Sponsors section on the 6.8 Forums. He is a little more specific about what barrels he's getting in and when. I'd lurk there. I'm rebuilding my slush fund to get a 6.8 or his Six5 wildcat barrel and bolt. I have an ARP 5.56 barrel and Superbolt in AR#4. Excellent doesn't come close to describing how it shoots. Yep, that's where I stole the pic from. 
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PS If you get an ARP barrel, clean barrel thoroughly inside to remove Salt bath residue before taking your first shots.Same with other Melonite/Nitrocarburized/Tenifer barrels.After that, clean the barrel as you normally do. Break in procedure are not really needed for melonited barrel. He doesn't clean his barrels out? |
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+1 to the ARP barrel and superbolt. Also, +1 to the BRT Covert Comp.
If this is your first build, you might want to try a Wolff Power Spring in the buffer tube, instead of a standard spring. 6.8 packs a little more punch. PSA usually has a sale on mags (got a bunch of 25 rd for $4.99 each about a month ago) or you can get some from AIM. |
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+1 to the ARP barrel and superbolt. Also, +1 to the BRT Covert Comp. If this is your first build, you might want to try a Wolff Power Spring in the buffer tube, instead of a standard spring. 6.8 packs a little more punch. PSA usually has a sale on mags (got a bunch of 25 rd for $4.99 each about a month ago) or you can get some from AIM. Go with regular carbine buffer and spring then pair it with an adjustable gas block. I wish I had done that to begin with. |
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PS If you get an ARP barrel, clean barrel thoroughly inside to remove Salt bath residue before taking your first shots.Same with other Melonite/Nitrocarburized/Tenifer barrels.After that, clean the barrel as you normally do. Break in procedure are not really needed for melonited barrel. He doesn't clean his barrels out? Cleaning before firing is a must with any new barrel, Melonite or not. You never know what kind of crud might be lurking in there...besides, I'm thinking that cleaning every barrel before sale is not gonna be cost effective for many manufacturers. |
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PS If you get an ARP barrel, clean barrel thoroughly inside to remove Salt bath residue before taking your first shots.Same with other Melonite/Nitrocarburized/Tenifer barrels.After that, clean the barrel as you normally do. Break in procedure are not really needed for melonited barrel. He doesn't clean his barrels out? 
You bastage... caught me off guard. 
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http://rs1img.memecdn.com/at-first-i-was-like_o_324407.jpg You bastage... caught me off guard. Quoted:
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PS If you get an ARP barrel, clean barrel thoroughly inside to remove Salt bath residue before taking your first shots.Same with other Melonite/Nitrocarburized/Tenifer barrels.After that, clean the barrel as you normally do. Break in procedure are not really needed for melonited barrel. He doesn't clean his barrels out? http://rs1img.memecdn.com/at-first-i-was-like_o_324407.jpg You bastage... caught me off guard. I'm serious, I don't get it. He's selling essentially custom barrels, and one of the issues with nitriding is the shit it leaves behind. I always clean that out before I send a barrel out. |
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I shoot service rifle matches with my ar so I am not new to them just never built one, had it done for me. I do of course reload. Want a rifle my son can handle and take deer hunting. Plus I scored over 400 rounds of 6.8 cheap. A lot of stuff to look over. Nice haul! What brand? If you shot service rifle matches - awesome! OK, then - You will be looking at ARP, Bison, Black Hole Weaponry & possibly Wilson Combat as your top shelf barrels. ARP barrels are Melonited. The rest are SS (with or without Cerekote). I'm sure you know quality triggers & free floating handguardsv & other components that are not 6.8 specific. Silver state and hornady. Awesome! They both use SRP. Hornady is very consistent. Again, great haul. |
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I'm serious, I don't get it. He's selling essentially custom barrels, and one of the issues with nitriding is the shit it leaves behind. I always clean that out before I send a barrel out. Quoted:
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PS If you get an ARP barrel, clean barrel thoroughly inside to remove Salt bath residue before taking your first shots.Same with other Melonite/Nitrocarburized/Tenifer barrels.After that, clean the barrel as you normally do. Break in procedure are not really needed for melonited barrel. He doesn't clean his barrels out? http://rs1img.memecdn.com/at-first-i-was-like_o_324407.jpg You bastage... caught me off guard. I'm serious, I don't get it. He's selling essentially custom barrels, and one of the issues with nitriding is the shit it leaves behind. I always clean that out before I send a barrel out. Then I always clean a new barrel no matter who the hell it comes from. He sells barrels at a very good price for the performance you get out of them. Here is my proof of my ARP barrel. All 5 shot groups at 100 yards and an 5x power scope. 
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