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3/28/2014 4:28:24 PM EDT

well I bought one of those phase 5  "bad" levers for my 308 and the thing works about as well as gun control, it wont hold the bolt back to save its ass, 50 some bucks down the shitter, their customer service is about the same, I run p-mags and my standard bolt catch works day in and day out no issues.

just wanted to give a heads up see if any one else had the issue, even when I manually lock the bolt to the rear one tiny bump to the gun and it will let the bolt fall into battery
3/28/2014 4:40:46 PM EDT
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In, I was thinking about getting the magpul version. ..  
Has anyone had the same issues?
3/28/2014 4:54:42 PM EDT
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I have the magpul one on a 556 gun and it is awesome, but for my 308 I would have had to mod it a little to make it work  ( out side of 308 receiver has a weird shape to it )  and I am kinda wishing I would have went that way
3/28/2014 5:35:47 PM EDT
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Have you contacted Phase 5 and given them an opportunity to look into the problem and provide a remedy?





3/28/2014 5:44:15 PM EDT
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probably not...it is much easier to bitch on a forum.
3/28/2014 5:44:38 PM EDT
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I took his comment on their customer service to mean he had.
3/28/2014 5:52:54 PM EDT
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I have been wanting one if you do not want it............
3/28/2014 6:09:47 PM EDT
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i run them on all my riffles and no issues at all. i dont see why it would not work it is just a stock bolt catch with a lever tig welded on it.
3/28/2014 6:48:37 PM EDT
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ya I know, good question, I shot oh... 50 rounds yester day, in 5 round strings ( loaded the mag 10 times )  and not one single time after the last round did it lock back, and 5 times at least when I tried to lock it back with my shooting finger, the bolt would catch for a second and then fall into batter, doing this all from prone or while trying to stay in a shooting position  ya the p-5 bolt catch pissed me off.


and yes I have sent them several emails starting last Monday
3/28/2014 6:52:03 PM EDT
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have you checked the strike face of the phase 5 and compared it to the original we'll catch to see if there's any inconsistencies between the two
3/28/2014 7:14:12 PM EDT
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Mine works...
3/28/2014 7:25:12 PM EDT
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Mine worked great on my Armalite AR10. Even with the 25rd mags
3/29/2014 2:12:48 AM EDT
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Same here.  I have three of them -- two 556s and one 308 and they all work fine.
3/29/2014 3:59:16 AM EDT
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ok, none of the 308 replays say whay upper and.lowers you are using?
3/29/2014 5:32:27 AM EDT
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I'm using a Mega Arms 308 billet upper/lower pair.
3/29/2014 11:24:11 AM EDT
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Mine works great on the BR-308 lower that it is installed on.

Especially like that it is welded to the BHO, not just clamped on.  My Magpul BAD levers had to be epoxied in place for them to work reliably.
3/29/2014 12:33:54 PM EDT
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Mine works great on preban SR25 lower / MWS upper.  I had to dremel a bit for proper fit but works fine.  Perhaps you have a weak spring:



3/29/2014 3:03:23 PM EDT
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That's what I'm starting to think, as well.  
3/29/2014 3:15:48 PM EDT
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I can look into it but why would my last bolt catch work with out any issues if the spring was weak ?
3/29/2014 3:37:33 PM EDT
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I can look into it but why would my last bolt catch work with out any issues if the spring was weak ?
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I can look into it but why would my last bolt catch work with out any issues if the spring was weak ?


Because you had a short bolt catch, not the long lever that fights the spring more
3/29/2014 5:50:24 PM EDT
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I can look into it but why would my last bolt catch work with out any issues if the spring was weak ?


Because you had a short bolt catch, not the long lever that fights the spring more


ill break the gun down tomorrow and check before I take it out
3/29/2014 10:27:08 PM EDT
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Because you had a short bolt catch, not the long lever that fights the spring more
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I can look into it but why would my last bolt catch work with out any issues if the spring was weak ?


Because you had a short bolt catch, not the long lever that fights the spring more



yep, the phase 5 weighs more.  
mine works, on both guns it's installed on.
3/30/2014 5:48:52 AM EDT
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yep, the phase 5 weighs more.  
mine works, on both guns it's installed on.
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Perhaps you have a weak spring

That's what I'm starting to think, as well.  



I can look into it but why would my last bolt catch work with out any issues if the spring was weak ?


Because you had a short bolt catch, not the long lever that fights the spring more



yep, the phase 5 weighs more.  
mine works, on both guns it's installed on.



ok but this still don't explain why when I manually use the bolt catch to lock the bolt back why the bolt falls at the slightest bump of the gun
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