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3/4/2013 12:15:08 PM EDT
hello all

Since i finally fired my Ar-10 my next thing to get is a Comp/brake. the goal is to reduce the muzzle rise, I would like to be able to keep the scope on target rather then go from shooting the ground to the sky LOL

the recoil is no issue I jsut want to tame the muzzle rise so i can watch my shot impact the target.

Iwas looking at the SJC Titian and the "EFFIN" A Compensator By Ares Armor

i'm open to others as well but those are 2 that seem to have no muzzle rise, I'm leaning to the EFFIN as it seems would not bother people near you as bad but can't find anyone using it
3/4/2013 1:02:29 PM EDT
[#1]
let me know what you find. i need to do this also for my 308
3/4/2013 1:14:53 PM EDT
[#2]
I had the EFFIN-A 308 on my x39 AR and it worked great. I only removed it to save some weight. If your barrel is threaded 5/8x24 PM me and I will make you a good deal on it.
3/4/2013 4:42:34 PM EDT
[#3]
i have a pri break and it does well but ive never had another brake on my 308 to compare it to.
3/4/2013 5:01:44 PM EDT
[#4]
If you want something that doesn't bother bystanders nearly as much you could get a BABC; doesn't manage recoil as well but all reports I've read say it eliminates muzzle rise, to the point where it actually pushes the muzzle down on some .308 guns (this is impressive but not a good thing).

You could also try the .308 PWS Triad; I've heard this is effective enough that it can push your barrel down instead of just eliminating rise.  It should have the least bothersome blast of any compensators AFAIK.
3/4/2013 5:31:21 PM EDT
[#5]
Battle Comp BABC works very well.
3/4/2013 6:05:01 PM EDT
[#6]
I  bought this but don't have my rifle built just yet.

http://precisionarmament.com/product/m11-muzzle-brake/
3/4/2013 7:14:49 PM EDT
[#7]
I've used the Battlecomp and the Smith Enterprise brakes on my LMT to very good effect.
3/4/2013 7:38:31 PM EDT
[#8]
Titan or SureFire 762 mb. That's the best from a competitors view ( mine).
3/4/2013 7:50:00 PM EDT
[#9]


FSC30.

I have one on an SASS and it is very efficient. The people next to you won't like it.
3/5/2013 5:42:50 AM EDT
[#10]
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FSC30.

I have one on an SASS and it is very efficient. The people next to you won't like it.


I just put the identical muzzle brake on my SASS. Diameter's of brake and DPMS SASS barrel are nearly identical. Super effective, but they are loud.


Watching bullet impact on clay pigeons at 200 yards effective...

3/5/2013 6:07:41 AM EDT
[#11]
they for the input I dont go to the range al that much i normally shoot at home so i guess bothering others is low on the list

i resurch all of these thanks I really like how you can tune the effin
3/5/2013 7:21:11 AM EDT
[#12]
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FSC30.

I have one on an SASS and it is very efficient. The people next to you won't like it.


I just put the identical muzzle brake on my SASS. Diameter's of brake and DPMS SASS barrel are nearly identical. Super effective, but they are loud.


Watching bullet impact on clay pigeons at 200 yards effective...



ditto.  I have them on 3 different rifles now and they are very efficent.  

i don't know why they don't get better press.  i guess the sound thing but.....it's a gun....get over it.  you want quiet...get  a pellet gun.

3/5/2013 9:12:31 AM EDT
[#13]
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Titan or SureFire 762 mb. That's the best from a competitors view ( mine).


have you tried the effin-a comp?

if so thoughts about it? good and bad please

3/5/2013 9:13:18 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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FSC30.

I have one on an SASS and it is very efficient. The people next to you won't like it.


I just put the identical muzzle brake on my SASS. Diameter's of brake and DPMS SASS barrel are nearly identical. Super effective, but they are loud.


Watching bullet impact on clay pigeons at 200 yards effective...



ditto.  I have them on 3 different rifles now and they are very efficent.  

i don't know why they don't get better press.  i guess the sound thing but.....it's a gun....get over it.  you want quiet...get  a pellet gun.



i though louder the better for guns?

3/5/2013 10:12:08 AM EDT
[#15]
I used a Battle Comp BABC on my LR 308 and there was basically no muzzle rise when using it. It's noise level is not bad and didn't seem to bother shooters next to me. I needed something with more recoil management and went with a JP Bennie Coolie muzzle brake. It's LOUD but does an excellent job of recoil control. It also does a fairly good job of controlling muzzle rise but the BABC is the better one for controlling muzzle rise.
3/5/2013 10:11:00 PM EDT
[#16]
http://www.jprifles.com/buy.php?item=JPTRE-5.58B.750
3/6/2013 6:13:37 AM EDT
[#17]
The Battlecomp, spikes dynacomp, effina, and griffin are basically the same design.  This is a an exceptionally good fit for many applications.  There is a small section that is blocked off, this on bottom when they are locked to 12 oclock (I clock mine to 1 oclock),  There is is limited dusk kickup and muzzle is pushed down this way.  With these you get muzzle control, fairly decent flash suppression, recoil reduction and flash control.  With the other comps listed in thread you typically get a lot of recoil reduction.  There is no angling to push muzzle one way of or the other, but the reduction of recoil allows for better muzzle control.  Extremely loud with huge flashes.  Outside of using the gun for competition or range plinking the side effects are pretty bad if you ever have to use the gun "for real",  the flash in your face will effect your eyesite if you have to use your gun at night, blast will be issue in close quarters, damage to anything or anyone near muzzle, effect on your hearing or anyone else's close by, etc.
3/6/2013 9:21:13 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
The Battlecomp, spikes dynacomp, effina, and griffin are basically the same design.  This is a an exceptionally good fit for many applications.  There is a small section that is blocked off, this on bottom when they are locked to 12 oclock (I clock mine to 1 oclock),  There is is limited dusk kickup and muzzle is pushed down this way.  With these you get muzzle control, fairly decent flash suppression, recoil reduction and flash control.  With the other comps listed in thread you typically get a lot of recoil reduction.  There is no angling to push muzzle one way of or the other, but the reduction of recoil allows for better muzzle control.  Extremely loud with huge flashes.  Outside of using the gun for competition or range plinking the side effects are pretty bad if you ever have to use the gun "for real",  the flash in your face will effect your eyesite if you have to use your gun at night, blast will be issue in close quarters, damage to anything or anyone near muzzle, effect on your hearing or anyone else's close by, etc.


I would have to disagree on the fsc.5.56.  I have shot both mine on 16in barrels at night and there was almost no flash at all.

I haven't shot the 308 at night yet so I could be very wrong.  

Secondarily, they fsc has tines that are angled up and I would guess, direct gas up for muzzle rise.

Most people that don't like them seem to have an issue with the look (which to me is kinda whacky, who cares what it looks like as long as it functions well) and haven't actually shot with one.  Those that I know that have shot them, love them.
3/6/2013 10:00:39 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
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The Battlecomp, spikes dynacomp, effina, and griffin are basically the same design.  This is a an exceptionally good fit for many applications.  There is a small section that is blocked off, this on bottom when they are locked to 12 oclock (I clock mine to 1 oclock),  There is is limited dusk kickup and muzzle is pushed down this way.  With these you get muzzle control, fairly decent flash suppression, recoil reduction and flash control.  With the other comps listed in thread you typically get a lot of recoil reduction.  There is no angling to push muzzle one way of or the other, but the reduction of recoil allows for better muzzle control.  Extremely loud with huge flashes.  Outside of using the gun for competition or range plinking the side effects are pretty bad if you ever have to use the gun "for real",  the flash in your face will effect your eyesite if you have to use your gun at night, blast will be issue in close quarters, damage to anything or anyone near muzzle, effect on your hearing or anyone else's close by, etc.


I would have to disagree on the fsc.5.56.  I have shot both mine on 16in barrels at night and there was almost no flash at all.

I haven't shot the 308 at night yet so I could be very wrong.  

Secondarily, they fsc has tines that are angled up and I would guess, direct gas up for muzzle rise.

Most people that don't like them seem to have an issue with the look (which to me is kinda whacky, who cares what it looks like as long as it functions well) and haven't actually shot with one.  Those that I know that have shot them, love them.


The PSC 5.56 and Rainer XTC (which actually functioned slightly better was not as well-known) were among the best compromise options up until a couple years when the Battlecomp came out.  The Battlecomp and now the Spikes Dynacomp, Griffin, effin-a may very offer only similar flash hiding ability, but they are quieter and with less blast.  The 308 version of the PSC is not the same design (as the 5.56 version), its closer to an all out brake.
3/6/2013 3:16:40 PM EDT
[#20]

I have been told the best way to reduce flash and noise is a suppressor and that they also reduce recoil.
3/6/2013 3:30:55 PM EDT
[#21]
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FSC30.

I have one on an SASS and it is very efficient. The people next to you won't like it.


I had one, it was too damn loud for ME. I took it off and just put a SE Vortex on it. Damn that thing was loud.
I'm half deaf, almost, I can shoot an AR15 or an AK and I don't need a headset. Doesn't even make my ears ring.
Of course they ring ALL THE TIME. Too many Guns, Motorcycles, loud music, you name it. But that fs30 bothered the hell out of me with ear plugs in!

3/11/2013 9:48:51 AM EDT
[#22]
thanks for all the input here, I'm going to give the Effin-a a try i'll report back, i may even take a video
3/11/2013 11:17:18 AM EDT
[#23]
I have a PRI "Quiet Brake", and it isn't all that quiet, but effective in recoil reduction.
3/11/2013 11:33:37 AM EDT
[#24]
i have the smith's good iron brake on my lr308 right now. and i like it a lot. def does a good job of reducing muzzle climb and recoil. it will blow shit off the benches next to you though.

not as badly as my no name three port brake though. that thing is a monster if your standing to the side of the rifle when it's being shot. but it's very very effective.
3/11/2013 3:00:19 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Titan or SureFire 762 mb. That's the best from a competitors view ( mine).


have you tried the effin-a comp?

if so thoughts about it? good and bad please



No I have not, but that said, there is only so much that can be done to the laws of physics.  It is my understanding, after talking to the AMU guys, my own industry contacts and our collective experience (The NST), that the SJC TITAN, SureFire or Rolling Thunder are the most effective, again based on design and from what we have learned over the last decade in comp design and performance.
3/11/2013 3:06:57 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Quoted:


FSC30.

I have one on an SASS and it is very efficient. The people next to you won't like it.


I had one, it was too damn loud for ME. I took it off and just put a SE Vortex on it. Damn that thing was loud.
I'm half deaf, almost, I can shoot an AR15 or an AK and I don't need a headset. Doesn't even make my ears ring.
Of course they ring ALL THE TIME. Too many Guns, Motorcycles, loud music, you name it. But that fs30 bothered the hell out of me with ear plugs in!




Mine doesn't bother me when I shoot. In fact it doesn't seem as loud behind the rifle.
The biggest cause of my friend's whining, I think, is that my SASS has an 18" barrel plus the brake makes it a little louder than if it had a 24" barrel.
3/11/2013 4:00:44 PM EDT
[#27]
mine is only 16 inches its very loud.........................
3/11/2013 4:11:19 PM EDT
[#28]
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mine is only 16 inches its very loud.........................



Get a suppressor.
3/11/2013 4:16:23 PM EDT
[#29]
nah its fine, its a gun suppose to be loud
3/11/2013 4:21:42 PM EDT
[#30]
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nah its fine, its a gun suppose to be loud



Then since a brake makes it louder more is better,
3/14/2013 1:17:42 PM EDT
[#31]
I run a SJC Titan and it does work, just ask the guy three benches over.

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