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Posted: 2/21/2013 3:06:41 PM EDT
| I have a 5.56 ,but i want something alittle bigger .ive been looking at the 300 blk out ,6.8 & 6.5 grendel. I want a caliber good fro everything ,from unting deer to home defense if need be . |
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I have a 5.56 ,but i want something alittle bigger .ive been looking at the 300 blk out ,6.8 & 6.5 grendel. I want a caliber good fro everything ,from unting deer to home defense if need be . Ok, sounds like a good idea. Did you have a question about part of it? |
| If you are asking which of those you mentioned is better for both deer hunting and self defense I would say the 300 blackout. I hve both a blackout and a grendel. I think the grendel would be overkill in a house, over penetration and such, maybe th same with the 6.8. The downfall of the blackout is that you effective range for deer hunting will be significantly less than it would be with say the grendel of the 6.8. I think that with most deer hunting sitiuations the blackout will be fine because, atleast with me, my shots on deer have been mostly under 200 yards. With any cailber mentioned there will be advantages as well as disadvantages since all three are great calibers for their intended purpose. But in short if I were making the decision between those 3 with the intent for hunting and self defense I would choose the 300 Blackout personally. |
| I was in the same boat a couple months ago. At first I was going to go with the 300 BO, same bolt and magazines. But after researching and thinking about the fact that I like to shoot long distances too, I went with the 6.8. The 6.8 has more available rounds as well. JMHO. |
| Just a heads up. I have assembled different caliber uppers for several people. All but one ended up safe queens or sold off after very little shooting. It seems everyone wants a different caliber upper, but the cost of ammo and no practical purpose for it sets in. If you are really going to deer hunt fine, just be honest with yourself. If you reload it helps. |
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I had my 5.56 first but as many of us have found out its contagious. Already having a 5.56 I wanted something I could hunt deer or hogs or any medium sized game. I did a ton of reading about all the different calibers and finally settled on the 6.5 Grendel. It has the best long distance performance of any of them (been wanting to get into shooting long distance), has the power to take hogs, deer, elk and even has been used successfully on moose and bear although the giant bullet club will deny it and call it unethical (check YouTube, you'll see a guy drop an American bison where it stood with one shot) and my Grendel is the only rifle I can consistently put bullets through the same hole (obviously that's range dependent).
I will say I am sooo happy I chose the Grendel, it's awesome to shoot. After my Grendel I decided she needed a sister and bought a Beowulf to keep her company. Now I'm back to building another and wondering what it will be. Having a Grendel means I don't even want a 6.8 or a 300. Besides I wasn't impressed with some of the testing I've seen of the 300, unless you are running a suppressor, where it shows some nice abilities. I can't think of any other AR15 specific caliber that offers anything not already done better by my 5.56, 6.5G and .50 Beowulf which sucks because I want another lol. If it were me, knowing what I know now, I would go with the Grendel again without a doubt. With a good rifle it will amaze you 
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I have no immediate plans to build another AR. I have a few more guns I want to pick up, and would like to pick up some reloading equipment.
I have decided though that when I do build my next one, I'm going to go with the 6.5 Grendel. Ballistics look good on it. Just seems like a good general purpose round that will work for just about anything. |
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You can use Pmags with a 6.5 Grendel but they will not load to capacity. The Pmags will hold 8 to 10 6.5 G cartridges. I've never tried 5.56 mags as I have enough C Products and ASC mags that function so I've looked no further. Since building my 6.5 Grendel I built a 2nd and I'm really sold on the 6.5 Grendel cartridge. Very accurate, pleasant to shoot in an AR-15 platform. I looked at 7.62 X 51, 7.62 X 39, and 6.8 SPC but built a 6.5 Grendel. For me I made the right choice and after shooting my 16" 6.5 Grendel out to 800 yards I was impressed and hooked. I just finished building my 20" 6.5 Grendel which is set up for longer distance shooting.
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Thank you !I was asking that question.I do really like the ballastics of the 6.5 grendel, My dilema is I want it to shoot long distance.I just dont know how often i would get to shoot long distance.Camp perry is with an 1hr 20 min.So Iam really torn. Thank You.
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I hve both a blackout and a grendel. I think the grendel would be overkill in a house, over penetration and such, maybe th same with the 6.8.
Velocity with a lightweight bullet, using a thin jacket combine together for house-friendly, 2-legged predator defense. In the Grendel, if you run the 90gr TNT, 85gr Sierra Varminter, or 95gr VMAX, it will be ugly, with very little or no exit mass for torso hits. Same with a 6.8 pushing the 90gr TNT, 90gr Sierra Varminter HP. Anything high-velocity going over 2600fps with a thin jacket or thin nose will devastate large masses of tissue, and be more likely to stay in the chest of someone. Over-penetration concerns are also an issue with handgun cartridges, which is why many hostage rescue units ditched the 9mm MP5 in favor of 5.56 NATO carbines. A 5.56 NATO carbine pushing M193 in the house is no joke. The next issue I would look at is going suppressed to save hearing and keep your awareness of the space indoors, ability to communicate with dispatch or 9/11 post-incident, ensuring accountability of family/friends, and long-term health for your ears. Even a 9mm handgun is devastating to your ears when fired indoors, especially when the muzzle is pointed at you. |
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