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Posted: 2/8/2012 7:18:15 AM EDT
Does anybody make a basic 20" A3 configuration rifle in 6.8 w/ spec II chamber and 1-11" twist chrome lined? I don't need anything fancy to kill deer where I hunt. I want a 20" barrel mainly for my old abused ears  when that quick unexpected shot presents itself.
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Does anybody make a basic 20" A3 configuration rifle in 6.8 w/ spec II chamber and 1-11" twist chrome lined? I don't need anything fancy to kill deer where I hunt. I want a 20" barrel mainly for my old abused ears when that quick unexpected shot presents itself.Going to be hard to find a 20" 6.8 completely built up with a good barrel. Most will have mid gas but a few will have rifle gas. Mid gas is reportedly better with the lighter bullets and the faster burning powders. 110 gr and up, OK with rifle gas. Your required twist will be far more important than chrome lining. Most all of the good 6.8's will sport stainless steel barrels. Here are some decent (and not too expensive) 20" uppers with rifle gas...... http://bisonarmory.com/20-spr-6-8mm-rifle/ If you can scratch-build your barrel options go up. As you dig into 6.8 you will find that there are tactical oriented offerings and hunting oriented offerings. The above uppers in the link are hunting oriented. |
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Thanks for the info. The only one I see that seems to be what I'm looking for is the Double Star. It doesn't say on their website what the twist rate is, or if it is chrome lined.
Anybody have any experience with one of their 6.8's? Accuracy reliability ect? Maybe I'll build my own, hell I already have a Stag 6.8 lower I saved from another build. I was just hoping to get something that wasn't too expensive. |
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Thanks for the info. The only one I see that seems to be what I'm looking for is the Double Star. It doesn't say on their website what the twist rate is, or if it is chrome lined. Anybody have any experience with one of their 6.8's? Accuracy reliability ect? Maybe I'll build my own, hell I already have a Stag 6.8 lower I saved from another build. I was just hoping to get something that wasn't too expensive. From inside the link that I posted above...... Bison Armory Barrels For more 6.8 info.... 68forums |
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Daniel Defense says they are getting a mandrel in 6.8 that will give their barrels a 1:11 twist rate...so eventually an 18" CHF barrel will likely be made by DD
Have no idea whether or not they plan on Chrome lining the bore & chamber in these or perhaps they will use some other type of coating... |
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I was told by the rep, at the shot show, that these would be shipping this month.....We all know how reliable these availability estimates are. The 18" barrels will get the salt bath finish.
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Daniel Defense says they are getting a mandrel in 6.8 that will give their barrels a 1:11 twist rate...so eventually an 18" CHF barrel will likely be made by DD Have no idea whether or not they plan on Chrome lining the bore & chamber in these or perhaps they will use some other type of coating... |
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Talked to Ben at Bison and they are going to build me a 20"lightweight upper. Gotta cull some deer this year on the farm, good times ahead.  Thanks to all for the info.You'll love the upper Ben builds ya. I've had mine for about 2 yrs now and its great! Plus if you have any issues Ben will take care of you!! He's a good guy that builds good rifles! And definately check out 68forums as well! |
| I want to make this upper as light as practical. Is there any problem turning a stainless 6.8 barrel to A1 profile? With a lightweight forend and an ACE stock it should be pretty handy. For optics I was going to use a Redfield 2-7X33 which is around 11oz and a DNZ mount which is around 3.5oz. Since this is purely a hunting rifle I'm even considering a New Frontier polymer lower to save an additional 7.5oz. It would be a nice rifle to carry around if it came in around 7.5lb.'s all up. |
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Talked to Ben at Bison and they are going to build me a 20"lightweight upper. Gotta cull some deer this year on the farm, good times ahead. Thanks to all for the info.You'll love the upper Ben builds ya. I've had mine for about 2 yrs now and its great! Plus if you have any issues Ben will take care of you!! He's a good guy that builds good rifles! And definately check out 68forums as well! My primary hunting 6.8 is an 18" midlength Bison setup. It is a tackdriver, to boot.... |
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Plane jane A2 style ready to go and cheap! The listed $1029 is higher than what you should pay from a local shop if they bring it in. Last year, I could get this for $950 out the door. Winning.
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Are you dead set for a 20" barrel? Your only going to gain about 25+/-fps for each inch of barrel over 16". Yeah, Stag or DD (when they get their new equipment up & running) are nicely priced like others have said. I'm not so much worried about velocity as I am muzzle blast. When you are hunting it not always possible to use hearing protection for every shot. 16"and under barrels are wicked loud. |
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Plane jane A2 style ready to go and cheap! The listed $1029 is higher than what you should pay from a local shop if they bring it in. Last year, I could get this for $950 out the door. Winning. DPMS 20" 6.8 SPC Interesting, too bad it's not chrome lined. I think at this point I'm going to build someting to try and keep the weight down. |
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Plane jane A2 style ready to go and cheap! The listed $1029 is higher than what you should pay from a local shop if they bring it in. Last year, I could get this for $950 out the door. Winning. DPMS 20" 6.8 SPC Interesting, too bad it's not chrome lined. I think at this point I'm going to build someting to try and keep the weight down. OP, you will have a much better rig than that with your Bison upper and a quality lower. With a good trigger and high quality 6.8 mags your Bison rig is in a different class. |
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Plane jane A2 style ready to go and cheap! The listed $1029 is higher than what you should pay from a local shop if they bring it in. Last year, I could get this for $950 out the door. Winning. DPMS 20" 6.8 SPC Interesting, too bad it's not chrome lined. I think at this point I'm going to build someting to try and keep the weight down. OP, you will have a much better rig than that with your Bison upper and a quality lower. With a good trigger and high quality 6.8 mags your Bison rig is in a different class. Thats the way I'm going. Just have to work out some minor details of the build with Bison. |
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Plane jane A2 style ready to go and cheap! The listed $1029 is higher than what you should pay from a local shop if they bring it in. Last year, I could get this for $950 out the door. Winning. DPMS 20" 6.8 SPC Interesting, too bad it's not chrome lined. I think at this point I'm going to build someting to try and keep the weight down. chromes lining wouldn't help accuracy it only helps with corrosion if you dont clean much and drag your rifle in the weather constantly. The chrome lining process creates inconsistencies in the bore from chamber to muzzle. I assume that is one of the reasons why DPMS chose not to do so accompanied with cost. Bison builds great products. Personally I am waiting for the Ambush 6.8 with the 1:11. I want to be a guniea pig this time. |
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Plane jane A2 style ready to go and cheap! The listed $1029 is higher than what you should pay from a local shop if they bring it in. Last year, I could get this for $950 out the door. Winning. DPMS 20" 6.8 SPC Interesting, too bad it's not chrome lined. I think at this point I'm going to build someting to try and keep the weight down. OP, you will have a much better rig than that with your Bison upper and a quality lower. With a good trigger and high quality 6.8 mags your Bison rig is in a different class. Thats the way I'm going. Just have to work out some minor details of the build with Bison. Let me guess, you still want a CL barrel? Maybe they will CL that 416 bbl. |
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Plane jane A2 style ready to go and cheap! The listed $1029 is higher than what you should pay from a local shop if they bring it in. Last year, I could get this for $950 out the door. Winning. DPMS 20" 6.8 SPC Interesting, too bad it's not chrome lined. I think at this point I'm going to build someting to try and keep the weight down. OP, you will have a much better rig than that with your Bison upper and a quality lower. With a good trigger and high quality 6.8 mags your Bison rig is in a different class. Thats the way I'm going. Just have to work out some minor details of the build with Bison. Let me guess, you still want a CL barrel? Maybe they will CL that 416 bbl. There are only a few maufacturers that do CL to stainless barrels. Wouldnt be cost effective for a single barrel. 416 SS has enough anti-corrosive properties to suffice. If you are constantly dropping your rifle in a salty ocean, CL the whole barrel inside and out may be the way to go.
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CL bbls for the 6.8 is not needed. At this current time anyway. I doubt the new Tula will be corrosive either, if it is I won't be using it. will they release them already, I have been wasting my time and money with reloads through my SBR. Hopefully I wont have to pull the bullets and add more powder to get my desired effect like I have to with remington 115g factory loads. |
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Plane jane A2 style ready to go and cheap! The listed $1029 is higher than what you should pay from a local shop if they bring it in. Last year, I could get this for $950 out the door. Winning. DPMS 20" 6.8 SPC Interesting, too bad it's not chrome lined. I think at this point I'm going to build someting to try and keep the weight down. chromes lining wouldn't help accuracy it only helps with corrosion if you dont clean much and drag your rifle in the weather constantly. The chrome lining process creates inconsistencies in the bore from chamber to muzzle. I assume that is one of the reasons why DPMS chose not to do so accompanied with cost. Bison builds great products. Personally I am waiting for the Ambush 6.8 with the 1:11. I want to be a guniea pig this time. I'm going to go stainless. If I bought a rifle like the DPMS I would insist that it be chrome lined for corrosion resistance as you stated. During hunting season I fire my rifle to confirm zero and I don't clean it úntil after the season is over to avoid change in point of impact. Corrosion resistant barrels are a plus here in eastern VA with the humidity and salt air. |
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CL bbls for the 6.8 is not needed. At this current time anyway. I doubt the new Tula will be corrosive either, if it is I won't be using it. will they release them already, I have been wasting my time and money with reloads through my SBR. Hopefully I wont have to pull the bullets and add more powder to get my desired effect like I have to with remington 115g factory loads. Yeah, it would be nice to see some cheap 6.8 or 6.5 for that matter. You should not consider shooting reloads through the SBR wasting time, any time behind a 6.8 is time well spent. I'd sell those pos remy loads... |
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Hopefully I wont have to pull the bullets and add more powder to get my desired effect like I have to with remington 115g factory loads. If the above sentence is to be taken literally, don't do this at home. A "duplex" powder charge can turn your weapon into a grenade. |
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Hopefully I wont have to pull the bullets and add more powder to get my desired effect like I have to with remington 115g factory loads. If the above sentence is to be taken literally, don't do this at home. A "duplex" powder charge can turn your weapon into a grenade. it is literal. I dump the powder from the load and refill it with 29.9g of H322. Whatever crap they fill it with short strokes my SBR. I have no problems with any other factory ammo. |
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Hopefully I wont have to pull the bullets and add more powder to get my desired effect like I have to with remington 115g factory loads. If the above sentence is to be taken literally, don't do this at home. A "duplex" powder charge can turn your weapon into a grenade. it is literal. I dump the powder from the load and refill it with 29.9g of H322. Whatever crap they fill it with short strokes my SBR. I have no problems with any other factory ammo. No it is not literal. You first first says that you "add more powder"
You just clarified that you dump the factory powder.......thanks ! |
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