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6/16/2008 12:13:49 PM EDT


As you all can see by the number of my posts here, I am not a ‘highly experienced’ AR poster person. However, I am planning out a first time AR-15 build and thought I would throw out my ideas and see what some of you think of my plan so far.

I have some background with this style of rife but not really that much. Back in the Late 70s I bought a full auto Olympic Arms with a 10 inch barrel and shot many thousand rounds from it over the years. It was lots of fun and good stress relief. When the police department I worked for issued AR-15s I adopted an H-Bar Colt rifles with Colt’s 4 power scope. That thing always felt like I was carrying a barn door around after my little gun but it did shoot well. I unfortunately sold my Olympic in 04 after retiring (27 years) and moving out of my home state.

Anyway, I have the bug again and find myself wanting to adapt it to hunting deer and hogs in the woods at a hunt club where I am a guest of a member. I have been researching this site for several weeks now and this is what I have come up with.
1- 6.8 SPR - The wife thinks 7.62x39 makes more sense as it’s cheaper with a larger bullet but after reading the pros and cons I am favoring the 6.8 at the moment.
2- I want this thing to be pretty accurate so I am looking for a bull barrel just over 16 inches. No BUIS are planned so I do not need a longer site radius, and no flash suppresser in this application.
3- Floating hand guards- rifle length, without rails or attachments as this rifle needs to make a good impression with the other hunters in the club.
4- I was first thinking of the A2 stock but am now considering the collapsible type for use in tree stands?
5- Which buffer and spring is needed for the 6.8 SPR
6- Mega receiver and flat top upper with the M4 ramps.
7- I will probably start with the stock trigger and just polish it out a bit and see what I think. I can add an aftermarket match trigger latter.

Any big problems you can see or suggestions you would like to make?  

6/16/2008 2:04:05 PM EDT
[#1]

Quoted:
1- 6.8 SPR - The wife thinks 7.62x39 makes more sense as it’s cheaper with a larger bullet but after reading the pros and cons I am favoring the 6.8 at the moment.
2- I want this thing to be pretty accurate so I am looking for a bull barrel just over 16 inches. No BUIS are planned so I do not need a longer site radius, and no flash suppresser in this application.


Yep the 7.62x39 is cheaper, but the 6.8 gives you BETTER terminal performance, flatter trajectory, and I've found it to be a much more accurate round given the same platform.  For hunting I'll think you'll find it a better round.

A bull barrel is neither required nor desired.  A HBAR or SPR profile is all you need.


3- Floating hand guards- rifle length, without rails or attachments as this rifle needs to make a good impression with the other hunters in the club.

I don't get it, who does your rifle need to impress?


4- I was first thinking of the A2 stock but am now considering the collapsible type for use in tree stands?

Good choice, personally I prefer the Magpul stocks with the 6.8 as they are more solid when locked up.


Which buffer and spring is needed for the 6.8 SPR

Standard ones work fine.



7- I will probably start with the stock trigger and just polish it out a bit and see what I think. I can add an aftermarket match trigger latter.
Don't polish the trigger, it's not designed to be polished and it's easy to screw up the trigger.

If you want to smoothen it a bit, then polish the trigger pin with a bit of emmory cloth and make sure it's properly oiled.  Other than that just shoot the mo-fo alot, that will polish the surfaces w/o going through the hardening.

Oh and you need to post pics of your rig when it's built
6/17/2008 10:53:50 AM EDT
[#2]
Forest
Thanks for the reply and suggestions.  I will be starting to gather parts this week and see where this project takes me.  
6/17/2008 5:53:10 PM EDT
[#3]
Floating hand guards- rifle length, without rails or attachments as this rifle needs to make a good impression with the other hunters in the club.  



I agree with this because it was hard to convince the lease holder that I was hunting with a legal rifle and not a MG.  He has the power to pick and choose members, otherwise id say who cares.
6/20/2008 12:03:33 AM EDT
[#4]
For hogs you might could consider a 45 or 50 caliber upper.  Best one for reloaders w/ the widest range of bullets that are proper for a variety of size/toughness of game is probably 458 socum (trommix).  You could shoot lighter bullets for deer & bigger ones for hogs.  

I recommend the JP VTAC FF Tube.  It is light & ventalated w/ optional modular rails.  They also sell offset sights for the hand guards.  

They have some of the old style rifle lenght ones for $89!  Not quite as good as the new design but a great bargin.  

THe bull barrel would probably be a bit much to Lug.  That is basically a 1" OD to muzzle!
7/7/2008 8:21:44 AM EDT
[#5]
I have been making some progress with my project.  It’s a Mega lower with RRA internal parts.  The collapsible stock is handy as it fits me extended and the wife when collapsed down.  By following the instructions I found on this site assemble went pretty easily and did not take very long.  Now to order parts for the upper half.
http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm349/trapdoor_01/Lower.jpg
I did look at those JP handguards and like them.  We will see
7/7/2008 1:55:02 PM EDT
[#6]
I love my JP float tube!  I think they are the best option out there.  

Polytech
7/7/2008 2:11:20 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:
1- 6.8 SPR - The wife thinks 7.62x39 makes more sense as it’s cheaper with a larger bullet but after reading the pros and cons I am favoring the 6.8 at the moment.
2- I want this thing to be pretty accurate so I am looking for a bull barrel just over 16 inches. No BUIS are planned so I do not need a longer site radius, and no flash suppresser in this application.


Yep the 7.62x39 is cheaper, but the 6.8 gives you BETTER terminal performance, flatter trajectory, and I've found it to be a much more accurate round given the same platform.  For hunting I'll think you'll find it a better round.

A bull barrel is neither required nor desired.  A HBAR or SPR profile is all you need.


3- Floating hand guards- rifle length, without rails or attachments as this rifle needs to make a good impression with the other hunters in the club.

I don't get it, who does your rifle need to impress?


4- I was first thinking of the A2 stock but am now considering the collapsible type for use in tree stands?

Good choice, personally I prefer the Magpul stocks with the 6.8 as they are more solid when locked up.


Which buffer and spring is needed for the 6.8 SPR

Standard ones work fine.



7- I will probably start with the stock trigger and just polish it out a bit and see what I think. I can add an aftermarket match trigger latter.
Don't polish the trigger, it's not designed to be polished and it's easy to screw up the trigger.

If you want to smoothen it a bit, then polish the trigger pin with a bit of emmory cloth and make sure it's properly oiled.  Other than that just shoot the mo-fo alot, that will polish the surfaces w/o going through the hardening.

Oh and you need to post pics of your rig when it's built


Per usual, Forest got to your questions before I and his answers are what I would have said.
I own both an M93B (and love it) as well as a standard A2, I love the A2 and use one on about every AR I own.

The 6.8 SPC is a great hog gun, there have been many people post photos of hogs, deer, BEAR, and other game with the 6.8, check out this link for more details  www.68forums.com/viewforum.php?f=11

Note to view that hunting forum you have to be a member (its free ) also see this site,
cardinalarmory.com/cardarm-pcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=11

A good array of animals downed with the 6.8


7/7/2008 2:12:01 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
I love my JP float tube!  I think they are the best option out there.  

Polytech


For the money, your absolutely right! I love my 3 gun JP tube and its simple as can be to install really.
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