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Posted: 1/6/2015 2:00:44 PM EDT
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i have a box of 1913 pic. accessories . why should i move to keymod ? the only advantage i see is your gear is direct mounted to your rail . is that it ? tell me why u like keymod .
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| Basically a new gimmick that hopes to replace the rail system that locks up better and works fine already. They are easier to make and offers more profit to the manufacturer and anything new or different no matter if it is practical or better will attract certain people. |
| For those that prefer it and the similar MLOK, this explains their thinking. |
| I run the Midwest Industries 15" keymod handguard on my 3Gun rifle and love it. It is one of the lightest handguards on the market (only one lighter is the BCM KMR because it is made with magnesium) and the smooth handguard works great when I am shooting while braced against a barrier or wall as I can quickly transition from target to target. |
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yea i ditched the quad a while ago . i mainly use MI SS tubes or light and cheap magpul guards . and im all about direct mount . my adams arms middy wears a iwc direct mount handstop. i like the slimmer fit and feel . need to mount my flashlight like that as well , the magpul pic sec digs into my hand . its not the end of the world but i would like to change it a bit .
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Basically a new gimmick that hopes to replace the rail system that locks up better and works fine already. They are easier to make and offers more profit to the manufacturer and anything new or different no matter if it is practical or better will attract certain people. bingo....marketing, marketing, marketing....drive for dollars, dollars, dollars..... |
| I have both quad and keymod and don't think I would ever buy a quad again. Keymod is lighter, much more comfortable to handle bare handed and no more expensive. Plus usually slimmer overall. Modular hand guards serve my needs much better than a quad rail. A light is about all I want out on the hand guard. Much cleaner attachment method than quad to me. Seriously thinking about getting rid of my DD Omega quad...I think I paid $300 for it. That's the most I have paid for any hand guard. My keymods were in the $150-$200 range. |
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I have both and have a use for both.
Funny thing is...keymod seems to be cheaper than most quad rails right now so.... Also before keymod if you wanted a long smooth forend you isn't have a ton of choices and each brand had their own proprietary 1913 rail sections. Keymod is universal. |
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From someone who owns a few of the typical quad rails, I also own a Keymod and M-LOK handguard as well. I much prefer the lightweight of the Keymod and M-LOK handguards over the quad rails. With the Keymod and M-LOK, you can customized the handguards in order to optimize performance by reducing a lot of unused space and weight. You can get 1913 picatinny rail sections (varying lengths) for the Keymod and M-LOK handguards that allow you to place them ONLY where you need them. The is also a lot of accessories that have come out for both of these rail systems. Here is a FORTIS Keymod handguard..... <a href="http://s100.photobucket.com/user/jamesrea_2006/media/Weapons%202014/005_zpsa0ac15f6.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/Weapons%202014/005_zpsa0ac15f6.jpg</a> and here is a Midwest Industries M-LOK handguard. <a href="http://s100.photobucket.com/user/jamesrea_2006/media/Weapons%202014/001_zpsae5b7a80.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/Weapons%202014/001_zpsae5b7a80.jpg</a> Compared to a Midwest Indistries quad rail handguard. <a href="http://s100.photobucket.com/user/jamesrea_2006/media/jamesrea_08/038_zpsbc1d66c1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea_08/038_zpsbc1d66c1.jpg</a> Midwest Industries has nice rails. The brown truck just brought me one today. 
I didn't go with the rail-of-the-day. I picked the one that suited my needs. |
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Lots of Keymod haters....
Personally, though I prefer the "traditional" look of the quad rail, a couple things that might make someone consider non-quad alternatives. First is weight...Keymod et al are lighter. Second is profile...quad rails are fat. I don't mind; others might. Third is utility. Quad rails were built to allow the attachment of accessories all over the rifle. Frankly, a lot of us civvies don't ever use it. I'm planning a "recon/recce" build and the "correct" hand guard is a KAC quadrail. But when I'm not mounting a light, IR laser and VFG, and only might attach a bipod, I start to reconsider the other lower profile brands. And these brands don't rule out that stuff either. Just my $0.02. |
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Great idea, KeyMod, but flawed in the execution. It looks like industrial shelving. There are equally secure, or better methods of direct attachment - M-Lok. Most, if not all KeyMod rails lack 45 degree offset mounting capability. M-Lok rails I have seen have that capability, as do some proprietary modular rails like the Daniel Defense MFR.
While direct attachment of accessories seems a good thing, mini-rail sections only where an accessory is located are inexpensive compared to the price of new separate KeyMod accessories. Most of us only run a very small number of accessories and they tend to stay put once installed. You can easily go too light with KeyMod. Too much of a "good" thing, by upsetting the balance of the rifle. More evenly balanced AR's with the weight falling squarely between the trigger and the magazine point and swing much easier and are easier to hold on target. And I have concerns about rigidity of some of the KeyMod rails that have been over skeletonized. While these problems can arise with other forms of modular rails, the current chase to find and install the lightest rails seems to predominate KeyMod thinking and with the exception of lightweight builds where the other components are also lightened to maintain central balance, the trend is misplaced. |
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I like some Keymod rails, and some of the accessories. I have kept the rails I liked, and removed the ones I dont. I am also a big user of quality quads, and they too have a place in my safe and life. The modulars I have are fine but Keymod is superior in that I don't have to mount a rail section. 45 degree mounts off the top or side with Pic or KM is not a deal killer since the variety of quality mounts is there in the market, and plentiful.
I have no opinion of MLOK, I don't own any. The advantage of Keymod over Pic has already been stated. They are lighter, and of a smaller diameter. They maintain this by direct mount. Don't like the look of it? Buy MLOK. Myself, I am lucky to like the Pic and the KM, I guess. Noveske NSR and Gieselle (RIP) are my favs |
| I have used both, I find Keymod far more comfortable to hold and much lighter. A couple of people here are saying that Keymod cost more, but I am not seeing that at all. When picking my last upper it was between a DD quad or a BCM KMR and if I recall price was pretty much a wash... Either way- both work but the weight advantages of Keymod are great. And It is very nice to hold barehanded. |
| The three I already have are sporting quad rails. I wouldn't spend the money to switch over, but my SBR will be an 11.5 bcm with their 10" kmr. I'm goin as light as possible on this build so gonna go with a T-1 as well. I Only need a rail section for a light, sling, and possibly a vfg. And of course front sight. What are the lightest/best irons on the market that are metal? |
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