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Posted: 10/22/2014 3:43:57 PM EDT
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You can make whatever you want, but .gov is not currently accepting taxes for machineguns. They do accept taxes for SBR's which a 14.5" barrel is. You can permanently attach a YHM or Vortex flash hider to make 16" and avoid the tax. You can also skip the butt stock and make a pistol with whatever barrel length you like. |
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You can make whatever you want, but .gov is not currently accepting taxes for machineguns. They do accept taxes for SBR's which a 14.5" barrel is. You can permanently attach a YHM or Vortex flash hider to make 16" and avoid the tax. You can also skip the butt stock and make a pistol with whatever barrel length you like. And i would be under compliance with all the laws out there? |
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Quoted: And i would be under compliance with all the laws out there? Quoted: Quoted: You can make whatever you want, but .gov is not currently accepting taxes for machineguns. They do accept taxes for SBR's which a 14.5" barrel is. You can permanently attach a YHM or Vortex flash hider to make 16" and avoid the tax. You can also skip the butt stock and make a pistol with whatever barrel length you like. And i would be under compliance with all the laws out there? You can make a pistol (I would use a pistol receiver extension) and the barrel length doesn't matter federally. No tax is required and you can have an 8" or 14.5" barrel if you want. State laws may vary, but as far as I know their is no prohibition on AR pistols or SBR's in GA. If you make a machinegun and the .gov finds out you will probably be prosecuted under section 922(o). |
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You can make a Short Barrel Rifle utilizing a Form 1 and paying the $200 tax to the ATF. When the approved stamp comes back you can assemble the rifle.  You can make a pistol (I would use a pistol receiver extension) and the barrel length doesn't matter federally. No tax is required and you can have an 8" or 14.5" barrel if you want. State laws may vary, but as far as I know their is no prohibition on AR pistols or SBR's in GA.
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You can make whatever you want, but .gov is not currently accepting taxes for machineguns. They do accept taxes for SBR's which a 14.5" barrel is. You can permanently attach a YHM or Vortex flash hider to make 16" and avoid the tax. You can also skip the butt stock and make a pistol with whatever barrel length you like. And i would be under compliance with all the laws out there? You can make a pistol (I would use a pistol receiver extension) and the barrel length doesn't matter federally. No tax is required and you can have an 8" or 14.5" barrel if you want. State laws may vary, but as far as I know their is no prohibition on AR pistols or SBR's in GA.
If you make a machinegun and the .gov finds out you will probably be prosecuted under section 922(o). Pistol receiver extension is not necessary. You can use an A1 rifle-stock length buffer tube if you like. We've been over this. |
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You can make a Short Barrel Rifle utilizing a Form 1 and paying the $200 tax to the ATF. When the approved stamp comes back you can assemble the rifle. You can make a pistol (I would use a pistol receiver extension) and the barrel length doesn't matter federally. No tax is required and you can have an 8" or 14.5" barrel if you want. State laws may vary, but as far as I know their is no prohibition on AR pistols or SBR's in GA. If you make a machinegun and the .gov finds out you will probably be prosecuted under section 922(o). Quoted:
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You can make whatever you want, but .gov is not currently accepting taxes for machineguns. They do accept taxes for SBR's which a 14.5" barrel is. You can permanently attach a YHM or Vortex flash hider to make 16" and avoid the tax. You can also skip the butt stock and make a pistol with whatever barrel length you like. And i would be under compliance with all the laws out there? You can make a pistol (I would use a pistol receiver extension) and the barrel length doesn't matter federally. No tax is required and you can have an 8" or 14.5" barrel if you want. State laws may vary, but as far as I know their is no prohibition on AR pistols or SBR's in GA. If you make a machinegun and the .gov finds out you will probably be prosecuted under section 922(o). do they have pistol buffers similar to rifle buffers that would still put you under compliance? i don't have the money to spend $200 a stamp for a SBR at the moment |
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do they have pistol buffers similar to rifle buffers that would still put you under compliance? i don't have the money to spend $200 a stamp for a SBR at the moment Quoted:
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You can make whatever you want, but .gov is not currently accepting taxes for machineguns. They do accept taxes for SBR's which a 14.5" barrel is. You can permanently attach a YHM or Vortex flash hider to make 16" and avoid the tax. You can also skip the butt stock and make a pistol with whatever barrel length you like. And i would be under compliance with all the laws out there? You can make a pistol (I would use a pistol receiver extension) and the barrel length doesn't matter federally. No tax is required and you can have an 8" or 14.5" barrel if you want. State laws may vary, but as far as I know their is no prohibition on AR pistols or SBR's in GA. If you make a machinegun and the .gov finds out you will probably be prosecuted under section 922(o). do they have pistol buffers similar to rifle buffers that would still put you under compliance? i don't have the money to spend $200 a stamp for a SBR at the moment You can use any AR buffer tube in existence on your AR pistol. See the tacked threads in the AR pistol section. |
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You can make whatever you want, but .gov is not currently accepting taxes for machineguns. They do accept taxes for SBR's which a 14.5" barrel is. You can permanently attach a YHM or Vortex flash hider to make 16" and avoid the tax. You can also skip the butt stock and make a pistol with whatever barrel length you like. And i would be under compliance with all the laws out there? You can make a pistol (I would use a pistol receiver extension) and the barrel length doesn't matter federally. No tax is required and you can have an 8" or 14.5" barrel if you want. State laws may vary, but as far as I know their is no prohibition on AR pistols or SBR's in GA. If you make a machinegun and the .gov finds out you will probably be prosecuted under section 922(o). do they have pistol buffers similar to rifle buffers that would still put you under compliance? i don't have the money to spend $200 a stamp for a SBR at the moment You can use any AR buffer tube in existence on your AR pistol. See the tacked threads in the AR pistol section. Sorry what i meant was is there a stock that can be put on an ar pistol or would it be considered an sbr |
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Quoted: Sorry what i meant was is there a stock that can be put on an ar pistol or would it be considered an sbr Quoted: Quoted: SNIP You can use any AR buffer tube in existence on your AR pistol. See the tacked threads in the AR pistol section. Sorry what i meant was is there a stock that can be put on an ar pistol or would it be considered an sbr You can use a sig brace, which is designed to increase stability. I want to try the Thordsen tube sometime as the cheek weld looks good. |
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Any stock placed on an AR pistol would make it an SBR and require you to form1 it before you do it. You can use a sig brace, which is designed to increase stability. I want to try the Thordsen tube sometime as the cheek weld looks good. Quoted:
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Quoted: SNIP Sorry what i meant was is there a stock that can be put on an ar pistol or would it be considered an sbr Any stock placed on an AR pistol would make it an SBR and require you to form1 it before you do it. You can use a sig brace, which is designed to increase stability. I want to try the Thordsen tube sometime as the cheek weld looks good. Unless you install a 16" bbl upper before you put the stock on. OP, confused yet? 
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Unless you install a 16" bbl upper before you put the stock on. OP, confused yet? Quoted:
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Quoted: SNIP Sorry what i meant was is there a stock that can be put on an ar pistol or would it be considered an sbr Any stock placed on an AR pistol would make it an SBR and require you to form1 it before you do it. You can use a sig brace, which is designed to increase stability. I want to try the Thordsen tube sometime as the cheek weld looks good. Unless you install a 16" bbl upper before you put the stock on. OP, confused yet? A little  I was going to build a 9mm ar or 45 ar but i guess that will have to wait
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Any stock placed on an AR pistol would make it an SBR and require you to form1 it before you do it. You can use a sig brace, which is designed to increase stability. I want to try the Thordsen tube sometime as the cheek weld looks good. Quoted:
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SNIP You can use any AR buffer tube in existence on your AR pistol. See the tacked threads in the AR pistol section. Sorry what i meant was is there a stock that can be put on an ar pistol or would it be considered an sbr You can use a sig brace, which is designed to increase stability. I want to try the Thordsen tube sometime as the cheek weld looks good. Thats what it waas called. I was thinking of the sig brace because the ATF ruled it doesn't have to reclassified as a pistol and because i am using an 80% lower i dont have to register it because i milled it myself. |
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AR pistol means it has a barrel length of less than 16 inches. You can make a 9mm or 45 caliber rifle as long as the barrel is 16 inches or longer. Choice of caliber does not make an AR a pistol or rifle. I know but i want to make it normal. Use 9mm and 45 for in house,ccc situations then use .308, .300 blackout, .223/5.56, for longer shots |
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AR pistol means it has a barrel length of less than 16 inches. You can make a 9mm or 45 caliber rifle as long as the barrel is 16 inches or longer. Choice of caliber does not make an AR a pistol or rifle. Where do you see barrel length stated as designating a gun a pistol or rifle? I was under the impression that it was "not designed to be shoulder fired", it was a pistol, and all rifles must have minimum 16" barrels without a SBR stamp. Where does it say a pistol cant have a 16" barrel or longer? |
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AR pistol means it has a barrel length of less than 16 inches. You can make a 9mm or 45 caliber rifle as long as the barrel is 16 inches or longer. Choice of caliber does not make an AR a pistol or rifle. AR pistol means it does not have a stock on it. AR pistols can have any barrel length, Federally, at least. |
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Just build it into a pistol first, then you can decide what you want to do after that. Either keep it as is, or make it a rifle, and go back to a pistol if you want, or back into a rifle after that. Or SBR it. Then you can have a short barreled upper and a long barreled upper, and have a stock too. |
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and does anybody know where i can get 80% lowers that already have logos engraved on it? Quoted:
does anybody know where i can get lowers with graphics already engraved on it? http://vadertactical.com/ But IMHO I would by a plain Jane and contact Braceman |
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I have this one on hand. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_4/658360_Modulus_Arms_80__Lower_Jig_Review__photo_heavy_.html Same principal but look like a better fit |
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does anybody know where i can get lowers with graphics already engraved on it? Send it to Acculaser That way you can have ANY graphic you want and he's VERY reasonable. Here is an example of his work... 
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