AR Sponsor
Posted: 2/8/2011 12:52:09 PM EDT
|
I did a bit of searching in here about the subject and can not find any post and not sure where should i post this so here it is.
Question is: If any one has any experience with hydrolic recoil buffer, are they any good. The few AR's i have seen have regular buffer, they are suppose to reduce recoil. wondering what the community says. thanks in advance. |
I bought one years ago and still have yet to try it out in one of my ARs –– it's still in the box.  (IIRC, we had a group buy or a special discount, so I just knee-jerk ordered one without any specific need or intent...  )I've often wondered if it might dampen the felt recoil a bit in my Beowulf, but never tried it.  |
|
Quoted:
Ok, so what can i use to reduce recoil? Reduce recoil? You may want to hit the gym  .
I have some experience with them. They may soften recoil a tiny bit but they create other issues. Essentially they are a "dashpot" and as you increase the force appied to them they increase the resistance to movement. That's the good part, the bad part is they make clearing your gun and doing malfunction drills much harder. Bomber |
|
Quoted:
Ok, so what can i use to reduce recoil? using a heavier buffer, using a brake, changing your shooting stance, work out. Possibly try out the VLTOR A5 system. Those are all things that you could do to lessen your felt recoil as your rifle stands now... Also changing out your barrel and going with a midlength with a properly sized gas port for the ammo you shoot would be a drastic change... but much more expensive. |
|
Quoted:
Quoted:
Ok, so what can i use to reduce recoil? Reduce recoil? You may want to hit the gym .
I have some experience with them. They may soften recoil a tiny bit but they create other issues. Essentially they are a "dashpot" and as you increase the force appied to them they increase the resistance to movement. That's the good part, the bad part is they make clearing your gun and doing malfunction drills much harder. Bomber This. And to the OP, I have one of the Enidine buffers I will sell you if want to give it a go. But again, thebomber is 100% correct. |
|
LOL, i got a gym downstair, hit the weights and run 4-5 days a week. Perhaps i should increase the weight. I know is not much recoil my 30-06 BAR, hits like an elefant compare the this one just thought to see what the community had to say about them.
Thanks for your advice and help gentleman. What muzzle brakes are more effecient in reducing recoil. |
|
Live fire training will help more than anything. Once you've learned a proper stance, your body will adapt to absorbing the recoil better and keep you on target. I understand that .223 doesn't have significant recoil. You could probably shoot 50,000 rounds in one day and not have a sore shoulder.
The issue is keeping the muzzle on target for rapid target engagement. I've tried several of the compensators. I hated them all. I found that most had a harsh stutter that made the muzzle uncontrollable. I simply run a Vortex to keep the muzzle flash down at night. My primary concern is blinding myself from the muzzle flash and loosing any adapted night vision that I had. The hydrolic buffers work ok, until they break. There is also a counterweight designed unit from MGI that works well and can't really break. I've used one and like it. I have identical MRP piston op rifles, one with the Vortex, the other with a PWS FSC556 comp. The noise and stutter on the FSC556 is horrible. I have plans to cut it off actually. I had heavybuffers build me a MGI like buffer to fit an anti-cant butter assembly. The shutter is significantly reduced compared to the unit with the FSC556. |
| Look at the Spikes STT2 buffer, it's filled with tungsten filings. I saw once they traded a few guys their STT2 buffers for their broken and leaking Enidines... Now can I comment on recoil reduction? Nope, built my first AR with the Spike's buffer after reading good things about them, especially since it didn't cost me any extra over a regular buffer. I can say my 16" carbine stays right on target, I shot a coyote at 125yds off my knee a week ago and watched the hit on about 9x magnification. Maybe someone will chime in with more insight, good luck! |
|
I saw the one from Spike Tact.
I mainly posted this because over the weekend i had a target at 100 yrds and while my grouping was with 4" (7 out of 10)which for the optic i got i think is pretty damn good. I thought it would nice to be able to reduce a bit the recoil to improve this. |
|
Quoted:
I saw the one from Spike Tact. I mainly posted this because over the weekend i had a target at 100 yrds and while my grouping was with 4" (7 out of 10)which for the optic i got i think is pretty damn good. I thought it would nice to be able to reduce a bit the recoil to improve this. I'd look elsewhere to improve my grouping. A good trigger goes a long way. |
|
Quoted:
LOL, i got a gym downstair, hit the weights and run 4-5 days a week. Perhaps i should increase the weight. I know is not much recoil my 30-06 BAR, hits like an elefant compare the this one just thought to see what the community had to say about them. Thanks for your advice and help gentleman. What muzzle brakes are more effecient in reducing recoil. Battle Comp is very nice, if you have the money. I'm very impressed with the ones I have. For more traditional brakes/comps, check out the Miculek, Rolling Thunder, and Titan. |
| Forget the buffer then, get yourself better ammo, better optic, and maybe a better trigger. Do it in that order, it'll tell you what the real problem is. I haven't been around the AR platform for a real long time, but I do believe that nearly any AR is capable of at least 2", probably more like 1.5". What kind of ammo and optic are you using? What are the specs on your rifle? |
|
Quoted:
Quoted:
LOL, i got a gym downstair, hit the weights and run 4-5 days a week. Perhaps i should increase the weight. I know is not much recoil my 30-06 BAR, hits like an elefant compare the this one just thought to see what the community had to say about them. Thanks for your advice and help gentleman. What muzzle brakes are more effecient in reducing recoil. Battle Comp is very nice, if you have the money. I'm very impressed with the ones I have. For more traditional brakes/comps, check out the Miculek, Rolling Thunder, and Titan. Absolutely, Better ammo is a 100% improvement. I just went throught a can of Tulammo which ai thought it was pretty good for the money. Sunday i went through a box of Black hill ammoa and i was very impresed. I thought i was shootting a differnt gun. then i also bought two boxes of wolf, and it was garbage this was what i used for the 100yrds. The optic i got a bushnell Trophy 1x32 I need to check into that, do not want to end up with the one this guy had. Every shot i would feel the blast in my face. I asked them what it was but he couldnt remember. |
|
Quoted:
I saw the one from Spike Tact. I mainly posted this because over the weekend i had a target at 100 yrds and while my grouping was with 4" (7 out of 10)which for the optic i got i think is pretty damn good. I thought it would nice to be able to reduce a bit the recoil to improve this. I have a set of spring coming in today see how it goes. |
AR Sponsor