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Posted: 12/29/2010 2:18:37 PM EDT
| I am interested in picking up the Magpul MOE stock for my first build (Its inexpensive and seems like a really good stock). As this is my first build that I am doing from the ground up, I'm unfamiliar with the difference between the Commercial buffer and the Mil spec buffer. I guess it is only a small difference in length. Is there anything else that I am missing? It seems like I can order everything in either commercial or mil spec for the buffer. Are there pros or cons to one or the other? |
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I am interested in picking up the Magpul MOE stock for my first build (Its inexpensive and seems like a really good stock). As this is my first build that I am doing from the ground up, I'm unfamiliar with the difference between the Commercial buffer and the Mil spec buffer. I guess it is only a small difference in length. Is there anything else that I am missing? It seems like I can order everything in either commercial or mil spec for the buffer. Are there pros or cons to one or the other? Stick with Mil-Spec. Many more choices for stocks down the line. Also threads in tighter than commercial. My first was commercial and it wiggled all over the place. Replaced with mil-spec and it is nice and tight. |
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. My first was commercial and it wiggled all over the place. Replaced with mil-spec and it is nice and tight. I have never had a buffer tube from a good reputable manufacturer wobble or anything, milspec or commercial. I have had crappy cheap no name gun show ones that will do this though. Buy from a reputable manufacturer and you will be fine either way. |
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. My first was commercial and it wiggled all over the place. Replaced with mil-spec and it is nice and tight. I have never had a buffer tube from a good reputable manufacturer wobble or anything, milspec or commercial. I have had crappy cheap no name gun show ones that will do this though. Buy from a reputable manufacturer and you will be fine either way. I have noticed wobble on quite a few commercial tubes. YMMV. |
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One thing with the commercial tubes is that they are not all within specs. Some are thicker than they should be, some are a bit in the middle, and some have angled ends and some straight. I have one that is a 5 position that is flat on the end that any commercial buttstock you try and use has to be sanded out on the inside to fit at all. I have others that are just fine. The ones I have gotten from RRA and other bigger companies have all been good to go, but some of the other companies have been out of spec as mentioned above. I have had them where the castle nut would wobble back and forth on them like crazy. I have had them with no lip to hold the buffer retainer pin in place and all kinds of crap, but these have all been lower end companies.
All in all... go with milspec |
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Almost all the stock options nowadays have choices for either mil spec or comm. Anything magpul does for sure and thats probably the most widely chosen brand of stock for replacement of the factory stocks. Personally I don't see the difference other than overall diameter and one has a flat back and one is slanted or suppose to be this way. I've had both, maybe not hundreds of each, but still have had and used both with many different stocks on each. I've never had a problem with one actually mating up to the lower tight or holding the buffer retainer in. I have however had many stock that were wobbly and it didn't have anything to do with whether they were mil spec or comm. Either of them can have this problem because it was a stock tightness issue and not the tubes fault.
Am I saying comm. can't have problems no. I'm just saying that mil spec can have them too. I personally think that the only reason comm is here is because there easier to make than a mil spec stocks. Does that mean that there not as good just because they used a different way to make them? I would say both of them have there own faults and there is no need to go seeking a mil spec stock because of a wider selection of stocks because that just isn't true. If I see some good results from the guys that have actually used stocks long enough to have a failure from use and not just because it was made wrong than I will listen to that. The manufacture process that is man made either way can have problems. I think the question should be with a mil spec or comm stock made right which one lasts the longest in overall use and abuse. Basically a torture test. I've not been one this sight very long but I have seen this asked a dozen times in the last year. With the same answers and nobody really showing any proof other than opinion. I'd like to know once and for all because I think were all here to learn and figure out what is truely better and not just preferred because that's what they heard. |
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stick with mil spec tube.. that way, you are guaranteed to have more options for stocks now.. and down the road. the major difference between the two spec is the diameter... not length The major difference is in the aluminum, anodizing, dry lube and threading process. Mil-Spec 7075-T6 aluminum>Mil-spec diameter 6160 aluminum>commercial 6160 aluminum |
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