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6/3/2010 6:44:38 AM EDT
I have a Bushmaster SuperLight and I am looking for any means necessary to reduce both recoil and muzzle jump. I recently got into three gun shooting but my gun does not perform the way I would liike it to. So I guess what I'm looking for is any sort of input on what kind of compensator/brakes, buffers, carriers, or anything else to help eliminate recoil and help stay on target. Thanks you in advance for any input.
6/3/2010 7:05:47 AM EDT
[#1]
You might be a little behind the curve because the Bushmaster barrels tend to have gas ports that are a little bigger than standard. You can overcome most of this though, if this is for 3 gun only check out the SJC Titan, I'd also look at a heavier buffer such as the H or Spike's ST-T2, and think about a long forend that'll allow you to hold the weapon as far out as possible, which will give you better control of the weapon. If you want to keep your FSB, Bravo Co is selling the Omega X FSP model for $180.
6/3/2010 7:28:04 AM EDT
[#2]
i just threw on a daniel defense m4 style barrel. probably should have mentioned that before.
6/3/2010 8:17:05 AM EDT
[#3]
Okay, smaller gas port, but for a dedicated 3 gun rifle, a carbine gas gun probably isn't the best. If you shoot enough, though, you can overcome that and be very competitive.
6/3/2010 5:08:11 PM EDT
[#4]
Alright I will take all of that into consideration. Thank you for your input, I really appreciate it.
6/3/2010 5:31:09 PM EDT
[#5]
There is always weight.  Maybe a heavier buffer can reduce muzzle flip.  Or a heavier carrier. Some use a m16 carrier for just that reason.
6/3/2010 5:48:00 PM EDT
[#6]
I was looking into brakes and wondered how the E-Tac GoGun Talon is.
6/4/2010 3:58:01 AM EDT
[#7]
Does the gun have a carbine length gas system?  If so, that's a disadvantage from the start.  Midlength or rifle length would be better for a 3 gun rifle.

Other than that,  a rifle length stock and a good muzzle brake are good items to have.
6/4/2010 8:36:04 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
I was looking into brakes and wondered how the E-Tac GoGun Talon is.


Very effective, but also very large and heavy.

6/4/2010 10:35:25 AM EDT
[#9]
You could try an adjustable gas block too, but more work and $$$ than a buffer swap.
6/4/2010 6:30:31 PM EDT
[#10]
I'm so glad that the past soldiers were not concerned with the recoil of a '06, 7.62 or a 5.56.

Get a heavier rifle or a smaller caliber, if the recoil bothers you.  What do the others shoot
458
6/4/2010 8:28:43 PM EDT
[#11]
for the most part everyone is shooting 5.56 but a few are shooting 7.62s and one of my buddies is using a vector.
6/4/2010 8:49:51 PM EDT
[#12]
I am fixing to run one these of  on a Colt 6520. Same basic build.
6/4/2010 9:02:47 PM EDT
[#13]
Superior Shooting makes a bolt carrier weight kit with a couple of different weight inserts. The extra mass will slow down the recoil speed of the carrier allowing a bit more gas to escape before cycling and the aditional mass will not accelerate as much lowering the impact at the end of the buffer travel.

The offset is that you add up to 4 ounces to a light rifle.
6/4/2010 9:22:09 PM EDT
[#14]
JP Rifles low mass operating system and brake.  I would bet most top 3-gun competitors use this setup.
6/5/2010 8:18:51 AM EDT
[#15]
so now i am a little confused. some people are telling me to add buffers and carriers to make the gun heavier...and others say get ones that are "low mass" which i would assume means lighter?

Edit: Okay so heres the thing, I am on a bit of a budget. Is the Spikes ST-T2 buffer really going to make a difference or is it a waste of money? I would like to eventually get the JP low mass carrier assembly but as of now its a no go. More or less i guess as far as that goes i am asking should i get the ST-T2 as a temporary fix or hold off and save up for the JP carrier?
6/5/2010 9:45:06 AM EDT
[#16]
Battle Comp may be a simple solution:  http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=12&t=499225
6/5/2010 9:59:49 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
so now i am a little confused. some people are telling me to add buffers and carriers to make the gun heavier...and others say get ones that are "low mass" which i would assume means lighter?


It is a bit confusing, but they are two completely different trains of thought.

The first is slowing down the bolt carrier due to overgassing.  Doing so will take care of some of the violence when the carrier and buffer bottom out due to excess gas pressure present in carbine configurations.

The second is lightening the reciprocating mass, less mass, less recoil.  Throwing a lighter carrier assy in there probably won't do much for you unless you address the rest of the gas system.  Usually the 3 gun crowd will use a lighter carrier assy in addition to reloaded ammo and adjustable gas systems so they can fine tune their setup.

For a basically stock setup, more mass will give you the quickest/cheapest improvement.  Lighter parts pick up where the more mass leaves off allowing you to get that last bit of performance out of your setup.

It's a lot like building an engine, the first 100 horsepower is cheap and easy, it's the last 10 that gets complicated and expensive.

6/5/2010 10:56:58 AM EDT
[#18]
Alright, that makes perfect sense. Hey thanks to everyone for all of your input. I will take it all into consideration and post back with the results. Thanks again.
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